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Breaking News: Stars Fans Hate You And They Really Hate The Wings
by IwoCPO on 01/29/09 at 04:31 PM ET
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I know. It’s hard to handle. Try to take it in and stay off the bell towers. But they do.
And it’s a deep hate.
Ready? Move the kids away from the computer.
I absolutely hate last years’ Wings and will hate them until all of their players die. It has nothing to do with their success.
And Wings cheerleaders- I don’t want to hear how I’m bitter or how I suck…if you’re going to refute these charges, let’s hear your excuses this time.
Here’s where that genius literature came from, an open plea to Stars fans to list the reason they hate the Wings. Of course, we all know the reason: playoff failure and more failure and more of it. Plus the fact that Marty Turco is officially the Wings’ bitch. They’re begging you to chime in. I suggest you do.
On to tonite: there will be a Live Blog, as usual. I won’t be participating, which affects none of you. You bastards live blogged the press conference without me yesterday so obviously I’m not needed.
Secondarily: We’re bringing back an old standard from the now-defunct KK message board. A2Y 19 charter member Okie Jeff will be posting a Game Day Thread here every, you guessed it, game day. Watch for that to start on Saturday.
Third: I’ll listen to absolutely no excuses from anyone in the DC area who doesn’t show up to Fado for the first annual A2Y Muster. Even if you don’t have tickets doesn’t mean you can’t show up and drink beer on a Saturday morning.
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I know maturity isn’t the thing here…but do you think when you make the live blog post, you don’t mention anything about Turco being our bitch or…Ott or…anything? I don’t think I can take another 50 shots against OT loss to continue a losing streak.
Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 01/29/09 at 04:46 PM ET
Here, Chief, I’ll give you a reason for not showing up to the A2Y muster: I’ll be at Fado’s here in sunny, warm Las Vegas.
But I’ll be thinking of you guys! LOL!
Nice to see that we’re living inside the heads of the Stars’ fans. Might as well make ourselves comfortable.
Posted by SYF from a "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" on 01/29/09 at 04:51 PM ET
Jeez, I only got through about the first 20 comments. Maybe it’s because I don’t have the same hate-on for Stars fans because I’ve met so many of them that “get” hockey, but Mike Rebeiro is the only thing about Dallas that I truly despise.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/29/09 at 04:56 PM ET
JJ, Why do you despise Ribeiro? Because he set up that embarrassing Ozzy dive?
Posted by rwhater on 01/29/09 at 05:05 PM ET
I am a DIE HARD Stars fan and I just wanted to say that the sampling you get from the dallas morning news blog is the largest group of homer stars fans there are. plain and simple. You might as well take everything posted at Hockeybuzz for absolute truth. Do not take this as a true representation of stars fans as a whole. More than a few of us know and respect the game greatly.
I do hate the red wings, however, some of my favorite players are Red Wings. Lidstrom, Chelios, Draper, etc. Also, how can anyone not enjoy watching players like Zetterberg and Datsyuk display their skill. I absolutely HATE it when they put one or 20 past Turco, but they are phenomenal. I say the word hate, but it is just a rivalry and probably one-sided in enthusiasm for the rivalry (many more stars fans hate the wings then wings fans hate the stars).
Again, please don’t take that as a realistic sample of us true stars and hockey fans.
GO STARS GO. 3 - 2 OT Dallas wins tonight. 
Posted by Aaron from Fort Worth, TX on 01/29/09 at 05:07 PM ET
Nothing against Dallas here. Their old Female Genitalia 3rd jersey was hilarious, and watching Marty soil himself in the crease is always entertaining. Same with watching the Cowboys implode every year (now THERE’S a hateworthy team!). And giving the Lions three draft picks for Roy Williams? How often does someone get swindled by Matt Millen?
Posted by cephalopod from Chicago...nope, still not over it. on 01/29/09 at 05:14 PM ET
JJ, Why do you despise Ribeiro? Because he set up that embarrassing Ozzy dive?
Most of my dislike for him comes from the fact that he’s a hard-playing agitator who you never like playing against. The rest of it comes from his cocaine addiction.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/29/09 at 05:19 PM ET
JJ, Why do you despise Ribeiro?
Gee, I dunno. Maybe this?
There is no way you can say anything good about Ridiveo after that.
Posted by YYZerman from Detroit, Michigan on 01/29/09 at 05:30 PM ET
Again, please don’t take that as a realistic sample of us true stars and hockey fans.
Aaron, I doubt anyone here thinks that the collective stupidity and exaggerated posturing on internet message boards is actually reflective of who the fans are in the real world. (Except Nashville.) Like the Stars fans, we’re passionate about our team, but we’re all essentially good people. (Especially me. I’m awesome.) But we don’t talk about that here. Your olive branch makes us uncomfortable…it forces us to mature to your level and we don’t like that, so knock it off.
Damnit…now I feel all reasonable and diplomatic. *#$%@& you Aaron. I need a drink.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 01/29/09 at 05:32 PM ET
Like the avatar, Gabe. But wouldn’t Pav be scarier to Turco if he wasn’t wearing a suit?
Posted by shep on 01/29/09 at 05:34 PM ET
Gabe, well put, as usual. And love the current avatar.
Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 01/29/09 at 05:35 PM ET
Glad to know Dallas hates us as much as I hate them. I’m out here in DC trying to relive my college years so I’ll miss this game, but I’ll see you some of you at Fado on Saturday morning. Go Wings!
Posted by Aimee in Austin on 01/29/09 at 05:35 PM ET
Yes… that link you provided is a new source of nourishment for me.
I feed on the tears of sandy vaginas.
MMM… yes, yes… more… MMM…
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 01/29/09 at 05:36 PM ET
Not even Stars fans like Ribiero, guys.
That’s what the Brad Richards trade was all about. They needed a talented forward to be the face of the team when Modano is gone. Ribs ain’t going to cut it. Morrow’s fine, and all, but he’s not got the charisma to do it alone. Hence, Richards.
Posted by shanetx on 01/29/09 at 05:37 PM ET
I am a DIE HARD Stars fan and I just wanted to say that the sampling you get from the dallas morning news blog is the largest group of homer stars fans there are. plain and simple. You might as well take everything posted at Hockeybuzz for absolute truth. Do not take this as a true representation of stars fans as a whole. More than a few of us know and respect the game greatly.
Every fan base has a segment like that.
Re: Ribeiro - DO NOT READ THIS if you are offended by large fleets of f-bombs - if that doesn’t bother you, then make sure you aren’t drinking because you might snork liquid out of your nose: http://fourhabsfans.blogspot.com/2008/01/hf10s-all-star-rant-*#$%@&-you-mickey.html
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/29/09 at 05:38 PM ET
Link busted, Baroque.
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 01/29/09 at 05:40 PM ET
Whoops! I’ve been censored!
Replace the #$%^%$$ stuff with f(iretr)uck and you will get to the correct post. Four Habs Fans are quite the potty-mouths, but hilarious.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/29/09 at 05:49 PM ET
Link busted, Baroque.
Just replace the gobbledygook between the dashes with a curse word that rhymes with truck.
Posted by shep on 01/29/09 at 05:49 PM ET
Huh…I thought it worked for me. I think this is what she is referring to:
From fourhabsfans.blogspot.com:
Friday, January 25, 2008
HF10’s All-Star Rant: *#$%@& you, Mickey Ribs, you *#$%@& ungrateful little *#$%@&-*#$%@&
Mike Ribeiro, NHL All-Star.
Read that sentence again. Resist the urge to smash your limited edition Pierre Dagenais bobblehead against the wall. Do not phone Bob Gainey to complain. Do not curse Janne Ninnima to the heavens. Curse Mickey Ribs, who could have had it all in Montreal ... but *#$%@& over his hometown franchise and fans.
Do you remember the ascension of Mickey Ribs? Local phenom, scoring almost at will at every level of youth hockey. A spot at the world’s most famous hockey launch pad, the Quebec Pee-Wee Tourney. Scoring titles and scouts aplenty as a Triple A player. All-Star teams and Canadian Hockey League scoring titles as a junior in Rouyn-Noranda. Snapped up by his boyhood favourites in the 2nd round in 1998. Shoved to the forefront too early by an overwhelmed and desperate Ronald Corey and Reggie Houle, who needed something, anything to placate the fans after the debacle of the Roy trade and the horrid performance of the rudderless Habs.
You want a snapshot of the Corey regime’s shortsightedness? Look at Mickey Ribs. Too small and slow coming out of junior, ill-prepared for fourth-line spot duty in the NHL, he was rushed into the starting lineup to thunderous applause and overblown expectations. He was shuttled back and forth between the AHL and NHL, force-fed to the National Junior team (rumours persist that the Corey and Houle only released Ribeiro for duty after receiving guarantees that Mickey Ribs and noted Canadiens draft bust Eric Chouinard would be first-liners ... lo and behold they were, undeservedly sucking up power play time from more motivated, more effective players), and handed a spot on a scoring line despite an alarming tendency to a) not play defense, b) get shoved around by every single player on earth and c) fall to the ground at the slightest of touches.
For every marvelous move behind the net, Mickey Ribs had two glaring defensive lapses. For each time he made running buddy Dagenais look like a sniper, there was Mickey Ribs shunning contact or tiptoeing around the offensive zone like a kid sneaking in after curfew. For each platitude about his hockey sense there was an apocryphal story about his continued lack of fitness. For each public appearance as the future of the franchise, there were whispers of two or three late nights spent out on the town.
Yes, the Habs were a lousy hockey team for much of that time. Yes, Mickey Ribs got rushed, jerked around by the clueless Houle, and feted too quickly by the Montreal media. The Canadiens organization and its fans deserve a share of the criticism for the way the Mickey Ribs era went down. But know this, you little twerp:
It wasn’t the Canadiens who acted like a snarky little punk in the dressing room.
It wasn’t the fans who didn’t put in the necessary work on hockey basics like defensive zone coverage, faceoffs, backchecking, and avoiding lazy, jackass hooking penalties.
It wasn’t the media who didn’t spend any time working out in order to develop some semblance of the physique required of a professional athlete, rather than stick with the build of a high school clarinet player.
It certainly wasn’t the Habs or anyone else’s idea to collapse like you’d been shot, only to laugh about it on the bench moments later (against our most hated of rivals no less), causing the franchise and its supporters untold embarrassment and leaving proud men like Beliveau, the Richards, Gainey, and Koivu to wonder why a punk kid would cheapen their legacy.
No, Mickey Ribs, it was you. You, who so polarized a dressing room and a fanbase. You, who promised so much and really delivered so little. You who forced Bob’s hand to the point where he essentially gave you away rather than put up with your lazy, unmotivated, no-backchecking, pansy, party-instead-of-work-on-my-numerous-deficiencies, scrawny ass. You, who after experiencing some sort of epiphany when you realized you wouldn’t be mollycoddled and protected by certain fawning Montreal media and apologists and might see your ass carted right out of the league, decided to, in your own words “put my head in the right place and do what I have to do to be successful”
It was you who threw the Habs under the bus when you said things like this:
“They [the Dallas coaches] let me play the way I can can play ... You try to make plays. If I create a turnover, well, they won’t bench me. They’ll tell me to keep playing smart and create offence.”
“If [the Canadiens] gave me the chance from the beginning [in a scoring role] maybe I would have started being the player I am now a bit earlier. I always knew, deep down, I could be that player. Playing with good players and a good team has helped.”
You know what, jackass? You were too small, too slow, and too lazy to warrant any special treatment and still got it from the Habs. You got put on the top line when Koivu was hurt. You received plenty of power play time. You got plenty of chances considering you didn’t work on your strength, conditioning, skating, or attitude in the SEVEN *#$%@& YEARS you were in the organization. And suddenly it’s all the Canadiens fault? *#$%@& you, you little punk. Christ, the Canadiens paid a salary to your idiot drinking buddy Pierre *#$%@& Dagenais for two years to keep you happy and you still crapped the bed. Now you’re in Dallas and on pace for 90 points, and it’s the Canadiens fault? Suddenly you get to Dallas, keep your *#$%@& mouth shut in the dressing room, go home after practice instead of out to Crescent Street, hit the gym for the first time in your *#$%@& life and it’s the Canadiens fault? God, I wish someone would break your skinny ass in half. Enjoy the All-Star game, Mickey. It should be right up your alley, since no one is going to throw a hit or play defence. Can’t wait to see you improve on your 8 points in 24 career playoff games when someone like Dion Phaneuf is using your spine as a *#$%@& toothpick this spring.
*#$%@&.
All those censored labels? F-bombs, man.
Posted by SYF from a "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" on 01/29/09 at 05:50 PM ET
Apparently the “19” are not the only “fans” with an intense dislike of Lil’ Gary, from Daryl Reaugh at the Stars page:
And, supporting Gary “Nero” Bettman’sstatements that the NHL is in excellent financial standing, the Red Wings dropped a front loaded 12 year $70 Million contract on Conn Smythe winner Henrik Zetterberg.
Gabe’s avatar aptly illustrates the fine work of Dr. Rahmani, and is funny as hell!!
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 01/29/09 at 05:50 PM ET
Like the avatar, Gabe. But wouldn’t Pav be scarier to Turco if he wasn’t wearing a suit?
Thought about it, but Pavs dressed like 007 and looking batshit insane was too good to pass up.
Marty Turco. Shaken, not stirred.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 01/29/09 at 05:53 PM ET
@ SYF - That’s the post! I LOVED it! Those guys do profanity-laced hysterical over-reacting rants better than anyone.
(The best part is that if you look under their list of tage, “gratuitous use of f***ing as an adjective” has nine entries. NINE!)
See, the internet knows I don’t normally curse, so it is messing with me.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/29/09 at 05:55 PM ET
I meant, of course, TAGS and not tage.
An edit function would be nice, sometimes, so I would look smarter.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/29/09 at 05:56 PM ET
Every comment thread from every blog post ever created over at dallasnews.com is chock full of stupid, kneejerk reactions like that one The Chief snagged
And no, I don’t hate the Red Wings. There’s nothing about your organ-I-zation to really hate.
Sick of losing to you guys in the playoffs? Sure.
But I know if I’ll have to get in line behind Trashville fans and Dives fans first. And quite frankly, the thought of even standing shoulder to shoulder with those miscreants disgusts me.
Posted by Gravypan from Dallas...or thereabouts on 01/29/09 at 06:00 PM ET
Nice find, Baroque!
Yes, rwhater, THAT, is the main reason I dislike Mike Ribeiro.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 01/29/09 at 06:01 PM ET
But I know if I’ll have to get in line behind Trashville fans and Dives fans first. And quite frankly, the thought of even standing shoulder to shoulder with those miscreants disgusts me.
Nothing a good hard scrubbing with a broom and lye can’t handle, I’m sure.
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 01/29/09 at 06:06 PM ET
And no, I don’t hate the Red Wings. There’s nothing about your organ-I-zation to really hate.
Sick of losing to you guys in the playoffs? Sure.
I don’t hate the Stars, either. I like them a lot better since they got rid of those horrible uterine third-jerseys, though.
Nice find, Baroque!
I love that blog so much - despite all the strippers. They know their stuff and are always funny - also, they seem to swing wildly between “my team rocks and will win the Cup easily!” and “omfg, what happened? We SUCK!” and that kind of bipolarity seems familiar to me somehow ... although I can’t quite figure out why, exactly ...
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/29/09 at 06:06 PM ET
I love the Wings, I just hate the fans. I often say that the fans don’t deserve that team, and the team deserves better fans.
Wings fans are just impossible. As a whole, they are either horribly arrogant (You all are just jealous that we are God’s gift to hockey) or suffer from a paranoid inferiority complex (No one respects us and tries to brings us down). Worse still, is that they are often both at the same time.
Sure, these kinds of fans exist for all teams, but not nearly in the numbers as the Red Wings boasts. The only possible second is Toronto or Montreal, but even they get a sense of humor once and awhile.
Posted by SMV on 01/29/09 at 06:20 PM ET
An edit function would be nice, sometimes, so I would look smarter.
You really think that’s necessary with us? Don’t you think you’ve perhaps already set the bar a little too high? We’re just poor, simpleminded folk tryin to come to terms with your big city words and fancy multi-syllabic speaking words.
As it is, the possibility of meeting the illustrious Ms. Baroque on the 20th has forced me to aggrandize my vocabulary with word-of-the-day toilet paper in an effort to obviate any predilection she may have to excoriate me for being socially maladroit.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 01/29/09 at 06:23 PM ET
Forgot to add: present company excluded, of course. 
(oh, and not a Stars fan; and agree Mike Ribeiro is a king-size a-hole)
Posted by SMV on 01/29/09 at 06:26 PM ET
As it is, the possibility of meeting the illustrious Ms. Baroque on the 20th has forced me to aggrandize my vocabulary with word-of-the-day toilet paper in an effort to obviate any predilection she may have to excoriate me for being socially maladroit.
Gabe,
That has to be the post of the day. My screen and keyboard are now wearing a fine mist of Monster. Hats off to you, sir.
Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 01/29/09 at 06:28 PM ET
As a whole, they are either horribly arrogant (You all are just jealous that we are God’s gift to hockey) or suffer from a paranoid inferiority complex (No one respects us and tries to brings us down). Worse still, is that they are often both at the same time.
Well duh. We’re just like the sweet baby Jesus. Pure and blessed in the eyes of our Lord, but demonized and assaulted by the sodomites. (That would be you.)
Yeah, I don’t know my biblical history…but you get the point.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 01/29/09 at 06:31 PM ET
I just love checking out other team’s sites only to see these folks talking Red Wings.
I suspect they are all closet Wings fans.Bitches.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 01/29/09 at 06:33 PM ET
An edit function would be nice, sometimes, so I would look smarter.
You really think that’s necessary with us?
Ok… damnit round 3 is on me too.
You best have your arse in Detroit on the 20th.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 01/29/09 at 06:41 PM ET
Well I dislike many players on the Stars and the fact that they had Thug-boy Lindros, Matvipuke, Ribero and now that waste of space Ott. Oh yeah, don’t forget Barnaby. Yes, I hated Brett Hull when he was a Star too.
Of course, my hatred is rather juvenile. My brother’s favorite team is the Stars so it’s a sibling thing. The Stars are referred to as the Evil Empire Junior around my house with the Devils as the Evil Empire (yes, I’m still mad about ‘95).
Plus Marty Turco….enough said.
Baroque - I love that site, it has me in stiches constantly.
GO WINGS!
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 01/29/09 at 06:43 PM ET
Chief, I know you’re lurking in the shadows here (I mean lurking in a good way for a change)... does a free ticket help sweeten the pot a little? Yes, I am a pest. and yes I mean it.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 01/29/09 at 06:46 PM ET
Quote form FourHabs that caught my eye .....
“Strippers and Hockey. They are truly doing the Lord’s work.”
Amen brother, Amen.
Posted by Rumbear from Top O da Hasek, sippin rum & catchin some rays on 01/29/09 at 06:50 PM ET
Chief, I know you’re lurking in the shadows here (I mean lurking in a good way for a change)… does a free ticket help sweeten the pot a little? Yes, I am a pest. and yes I mean it.
Yes. I’m monitoring the conversation, as you would expect.
If I go, Mo, I’ll be paying for my ticket. Still working on it. Should have an answer for you in 24 hours or less——-NEVERMIND. I’M IN. LET ME KNOW HOW MUCH THE TICKET IS.
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 01/29/09 at 06:58 PM ET
Thanks! New yard Gnome. Wife bought me one for Christmas. Thing scared me for the first few days. Now I talk to it…....
Posted by Rumbear from Top O da Hasek, sippin rum & catchin some rays on 01/29/09 at 07:00 PM ET
Now I talk to it…....
As long as it doesn’t start talking back - or I guess if it doesn’t say anything crazy, that’s okay.
Ok… damnit round 3 is on me too.
You best have your arse in Detroit on the 20th.
Whose arse? Mine or Gabriel’s?
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/29/09 at 07:05 PM ET
....word-of-the-day toilet paper…..
Careful, that stuff has a front and back to it. Some of the words I learned, well, they were not really words. Much to my surprise. Now I just dazzle folks with my mastery of the Canadian language.
Posted by Rumbear from Top O da Hasek, sippin rum & catchin some rays on 01/29/09 at 07:12 PM ET
NEVERMIND. I’M IN.
Chief, you from the east, Mo from the middle and me and Gabe from the west. We’ve got the whole friggin’ country covered!
Posted by calquake on 01/29/09 at 07:17 PM ET
See Gabriel, if more fans had a sense of humor like you do, my feelings would be different.
Posted by SMV on 01/29/09 at 08:07 PM ET
We’ve got the whole friggin’ country covered!
Yes, but you lack a certain…international flair. Care to send me a ticket?
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 01/29/09 at 08:24 PM ET
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