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by IwoCPO on 05/20/08 at 07:07 AM
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Reaction from Dallas/Ft. Worth.  Jen Floyd Hyphen Engel can go back to her Dem Cowboys worship.  Hockey’s over.  A few more parting shots and she’s history until January, I’m thinking.

Mini-Mo has a crusty, bright red, rectangular mark on his face that just so happens to resemble the shaft of a hockey stick, like maybe he had been cross-checked in Game 5 or something.

Wings forward Kris Draper said he did not remember his involvement in this incident. Why do I think Draper is going to remember Monday’s cross-check?

I’d be willing to bet Draper’s already forgotten it, wack job.  If not yet, a comfortable plane ride home, a day off, then back on the ice to get ready for the Finals?  Probably enough to send that incident deep into the vault, along with all the other chops and cheap shots Draper’s taken on the way to 3 Cups. 

Oh, and this startling conclusion to Hyphen Engel’s latest rant.

Go Penguins.

Creative. Never saw that one coming.

Mike Heika made his Final prediction immediately known last night. 

But my theory on the Stanley Cup Finals is that Pittsburgh is not near used to the defense teams play in the Western Conference. Yes, the Penguins have a tremendous offensive machine, but you have to wonder when it comes to match-ups if the Penguins are deep enough. My guess is Detroit can find matches for the Penguins’ stars. I’m not sure that Jordan Staal and Co. can shut down the Zetterbergs and Datsyuks of the world.

Early prediction: Detroit in 6.

Naturally, an educated Stars fan immediately chimed in.

Posted by Patrick in Section 323 @ 1:22 AM Tue, May 20, 2008

I would root for al Qaeda before I’d root for the Redwings.

GO PENS!

Stay classy Dallas.  See you next year.

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The loser karma is mounting in a big way out of Big D.  If I’m a Pens fan, I’m getting annoyed with Bubba Sr. piling on like that.

Posted by HockeyJoe from NY  on  05/20  at  07:29 AM

Wow. Amazing. I’ve read/heard a lot of stupid things (thanks, interwebs).

But honestly?

“I would root for al Qaeda before I’d root for the Redwings.”

Really? Words like asinine and crass come to mind.

Posted by Nathan  on  05/20  at  09:21 AM

To be fair, these are Texans we’re talking about.
Their idea of justice is executing retarded people, and it’s them we have to thank for launching the political career of the idiot from Crawford. Deep thinking isn’t considered an attribute there, nor obviously is losing with any semblance of class.
The only thing that would have left me more satisfied would have been McCarty lecturing Morrow about his unnecessary cheap shot on Lidstrom on Brendan’s way to the golf course.

Posted by BobS.  on  05/20  at  09:42 AM

They are more skilled and this does not necessarily equal better.

does not necessarily?  I’ll agree with that.  doesn’t change that the Wings ARE better than the Stars.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach  on  05/20  at  09:47 AM

Good....no more drivel from that ignorant hate-breeding horse-faced twit and Dallas can get back to doing what is does best…

feeding cows.

Learn to make ice, Dallas....go golf, and buy Ms. Engel a Sammich.

/She and DC would make a cute couple. Perhaps they’re children might look like little Gary. Thanks! Ass(es)

Posted by Scott H from Kalamazoo  on  05/20  at  09:47 AM

So, Dallas is rooting for Pittsburgh?  Isn’t that like Hillary rooting for McCain?  Oh, wait…

My prediction:  Wings in 6, and Pens fans start rooting for the Cleveland Browns.

Posted by Matt from Chicago  on  05/20  at  10:18 AM

Good lord. She makes the Local media look good and I’d all but thought that was impossible.

Posted by moocat  on  05/20  at  10:34 AM

Drapes taking it off the mug and still taking a swing at the biscuit.... I’d say that is a new definition of toughness (not to mention scoring off the chin). Did ya see his jaw-bottom lip after the game? “We’ve got it pretty well iced now, so I’m ok”. If Drapes has all but gotten over LePuke splitting his face in half, what happened last night was nothing. One should ask Jenny Pooh what lasting memory Morrow will have from Monday (other than bitter dissapointed of coming up short)?

To be fair, these are Texans we’re talking about.

. That’s just funny. Let the Dive n Bubba SR fans take all the cheap shots they want. They can join up with the Dive faithful and cheer for what the hell ever they want, I quite frankly don’t give a damn.

The only thing that would have left me more satisfied would have been McCarty lecturing Morrow about his unnecessary cheap shot on Lidstrom on Brendan’s way to the golf course.

. Where’s Downey when ya need him? Mac is a heart n soul guy, but Downey would have served a summons to Morrow for that one. Mac should have done the same, score & outcome irrelevent on that one.

I would root for al Qaeda before I’d root for the Redwings

I’m good for a couple hundred to buy that dipshit a one way ticket to Iraq, anyone else feeling generous?
One team on one mission to the Holy Grail. That’s what I care about.
4 and counting. Posted by MOWingsfan19  on  05/20  at  10:37 AM

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion… doesn’t make it right however.  As we have seen again and again, if you’re a (team name here) fan you root for whomever plays against the team that beat you.  If you’re a HOCKEY fan you root for a) your team b) your division c) your conference, in that order.  Even though I throw up a little in my mouth when I think of it, I would root for the Dive if they were representing the Western Conference.  Because that’s how a real hockey fan rolls.

Posted by Mike from La-La Land  on  05/20  at  10:56 AM

Wait ... Wait ... I’m supposed to keep caring for the SC Playoffs if my team has been ousted?
Did i miss a memo?

In a backhanded way, I always hope for the team that beat the wings to at least not get rolled over in the next round.  If they keep playing well, than it is more proof that the wings played a difficult opponent and lost ...  instead of rolling over to a weak team.

Posted by ColdWar  on  05/20  at  11:16 AM

In a backhanded way, I always hope for the team that beat the wings to at least not get rolled over in the next round.  If they keep playing well, than it is more proof that the wings played a difficult opponent and lost ...  instead of rolling over to a weak team.

I’m pretty much the same way, but then I want them to lose the finals in game seven (just for the extra bit of heartbreak). Unless of course I dislike the team from the East more (like, say, Pittsburgh).

Posted by Modnar from Cincinnati, OH  on  05/20  at  11:24 AM

ColdWar, do you follow the NCAA finals if your team is eliminated?  Do you follow the World Series, Super Bowl, MLB or NBA finals if your team is eliminated?  If the answer is no then you are a follower of a team.  If the answer is yes then you are a follower of the sport.  I am a Red Wing fan, but I am also a follower of the sport of hockey.  That is why I subscribe to NHL Center Ice, not to just follow the Wings, but to watch good hockey wherever it is played.  That way I know that the Pens have Sid and Malkin and a pretty good goalie but their defense is suspect and will be taken advantage of by the Wings.  I LOVE the Red Wings but I also LOVE hockey.

Posted by Mike from La-La Land  on  05/20  at  11:47 AM

Psycho chick conveniently ignores anything that makes her team look bad and/or the opposition look good. Ott’s sucker punch on Draper in Game 2? Morrow’s elbow to Lidstrom’s face last night? Turco playing whack-a-mole on Holmstrom? Never happened.

Jen Effing Engel, I’ll tell you what should have never happened: game 5 and game 6. If Datsyuk’s goal doesn’t get waved off, your boys get swept.

And as far as St. Morrow, who to hear you tell it is 210 pounds of sheer will, six feet of pure competitor? His boundless heart and determination kept the Wings from scoring during 18 of his shifts. Outstanding! The problem is, he was on the ice 22 times. Maybe the manly odors issuing from his jock made you forget this, but it’s true: your do-it-all, carry-the-team-on-his-back captain, the finest leader in this or any other sport, was on the ice for every opposition goal in the game that sent your boys home.

So suck it, Jen.

Posted by shep from california  on  05/20  at  11:50 AM

what is this “NCAA finals” that you speak of ... and what are “world series” and “Super Bowl” for that matter ....
i wasn’t aware that there are sports other than hockey.
my bad.

Posted by ColdWar  on  05/20  at  11:51 AM

This entire page is sheer genious! I consistantly reach the brink of pissing myself when I read the comments made by the author, but I am pushed over that brink by the comments made by readers. Too friggin funny.

I look forward to hearing little Gary get bood into oblivion after game five when the wings hoist the holy grail at the Joe, and hearing Lidstrom say: (say it with me now)

“Thanks Gary. Ass”

Posted by wings-B-rollin'  on  05/20  at  11:52 AM

Maybe Stars fans can rid their frustration the way Blues fans do. Somebody has that link here to the ‘f-ing’ site cause I can’t remember the exact words.
But it cracks me up everytime whoever throws the link up. Is it bad that I enjoy other fans’ pain? If it is I don’t care.

Draper will remember what? The same thing that happens in every playoff game regardless of who you play for?  Puh-leaze.  Twenty bucks says Hyphen doesn’t even watch the rest of the playoffs. Bitter.

Posted by AndrewB from TN  on  05/20  at  12:02 PM

Jen Effing Engel, I’ll tell you what should have never happened…

What should have happened is her daddy letting it run down her momma’s leg instead.  That’s what should have happened.

Posted by O-Joe  on  05/20  at  12:34 PM

What a load of hooey. Nothing made me happier than to see that cheap shotter Morrow lose that game last night.  What was the point of cheap shotting Lidstrom?  My favorite part of that article is that part about Turco.  I’m not going to get the exact quote because I don’t want to read that thing again but the part about how he knows Turco is going to win him a Stanley Cup.  Yeah, right.

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO  on  05/20  at  12:40 PM

Shep, nice stats not referenced by Jenny. Huh? Seems like a very important one or 4.
I too am like ColdWar & Modnar. So long as whomever beats the Wings doesn’t fold in the next round, it’s umm....sort of ok. There are certain teams I will never EVER flinch about NEVER remotely “cheering for”. On the same token there are certain players I follow regardless of the color sweater they pull on.
Root for the Dive, not on your life nor mine. Root against the other conference, sure. This year it’s all irrelevant anyway.
GO WINGS.

Posted by MOWingsfan19  on  05/20  at  12:51 PM

Like ColdWar I pretty much don’t pay more than casual attention to the other sports.  I used to, but I just don’t anymore.

But hockey is my terminal affliction.  For me it’s Wings first, but I get Center Ice, too, and if Detroit’s not playing I’ll watch the other games.  If Detroit’s out of the playoffs I don’t stop watching.  I don’t feel compelled to root for my own division or my own conference.  Some times I root for the underdog… some times I don’t care and just enjoy the hockey… some times I’ll have some other reason, usually irrational, to pick a team… though I always root against the team Pronger is playing for.

Posted by BobTheZee  on  05/20  at  01:49 PM

Interesting stats on Morrow, shep. I kept thinking to myself how much of a non-factor he was throughout the series, especially after the MVP hype he was getting before. I didn’t realize just how much he was actually helping the Wings cause. Maybe the Wings should wear medals of their patron St. Brendan for the finals.
Mike, I disagree with you regarding who to root for after the Wings get bounced.For me, it’ any Original Six team (and enough with the Avs bullshit- we’re their rival,they’re not ours. They’re a blip on the hockey radar. The Leafs and Canadians are our peers, whether Bettman allows it or not), then whatever Canadian team is left over. After that, I like to see the local boys in the NHL do well (by the way, never let Stars fans forget they have their one Cup only because of Modano and Hatcher, and were banking on Turco to deliver their second. Maybe Jen can do a column on all the Texans who’ve played for the Wings ).
What I don’t do is reflexively root against whoever beats the Wings. For a newspaper columnist to actually do it in print is pretty damn amateurish.

Posted by BobS.  on  05/20  at  01:51 PM

BobTheZee - I echo your sentiments.  The other sports, I barely pay attention.  I get Center Ice and watch as much hockey as I can.  If the Wings lose, I usually will root for the team that took them out but I could never root for Dallas, ever.  Of course, last year I rooted for Ottawa because of the Pronger factor.

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO  on  05/20  at  01:53 PM

Even when the Wings are out, I’ll still watch playoff hockey because playoff hockey is the fastest, most intense sport out there.  There are times when I’m afraid to glance at the game clock to see how much time is remaining because I think I’ll miss something.  It’s THAT fast!  And if there’s one sporting event every year I refuse to miss under any circumstances, it’s the hoisting of the Stanley Cup, no matter who wins it (although last year sucked because it was f-ing Pronger).

BTW, since the 2002 Championship, every team that knocked the Wings out of the playoffs went on to the Cup Finals.

Posted by Matt from Chicago  on  05/20  at  03:00 PM

Maybe the Wings should wear medals of their patron St. Brendan for the finals.

If the team’s honoring Morrow, then Jose Three-or-four definitely should be acknowledged for his consistent effort to help the Wings advance.

BobTheZee and hockeychic: I agree with your statements. I’m not really picky on which team I root for if the Wings get ousted; usually I just want to watch so I can more effectively stave off the summer hockey withdrawal (usually arriving around August). My only qualifier is whether or not Chris “Physics genius” Pronger plays for the team. If so...well, I wish the team nothing but heartbreak.

Posted by Aphaea from Pennsylvania  on  05/20  at  05:38 PM

Poor baby.  She’s pouting in the corner now.

I tend to cheer for the team that beats a team I’m rooting for (unless I detest them), because that way it took the best to knock out my guys.  Although once my team is out, in any sport, I lose most or all interest.  Sometimes it just hurts too much to see other teams win when I wanted it to be someone else, so I just follow casually.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan  on  05/20  at  08:46 PM

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