Works for me. Anyone know if the fines equivalent? I’m only seeing “undisclosed amounts.”

Also of note, Ott got a fine for his work on Draper.

Gutless NHL response…
This could get really ugly.

Yeah, this is not good.  When you can get away with an Alberta Two-Hander on another team’s goalie, after regulation ends… I dunno. 

Maybe Ozzie’s innocent here, maybe he’s not, but I don’t see - and I’ve watched the video repeatedly, as many other here have - I don’t see how something like that doesn’t warrant a suspension. 

Truly a gutless response.

And I shoulda added, “up around the neck.” Disgusting, and here’s to Ribeiro getting his comeuppance sooner, rather than later.

I apologize in advance as my forthcoming rant is not related to the topic.  For me the ‘NEW NHL’ is officially a joke.  Watching the Pitt/Philly game and Sid scores, what appears to be, a legitimate goal.  But hold on… the Ref says no goal.  They send it to Toronto for review.  The VS clowns go out of their way to tell us it must be conclusive.  However the replay shows the puck, on edge, going over the line.  Marty Biron sticks out his glove, as any goalie would, in an attempt to stop the puck.  In doing so he obscures the view that would have definitivly shown the puck over the line.  So the reasoning is, according to the VS assclowns, that because the camera doesn’t show the puck over the line it is inconclusive.
So let me get this straight, the ‘NEW NHL’ has taken common sense out of the game in favor of ‘conclusive photo evidence’.  Look at the replay.  To say the puck is not over the line because you can’t see it is ridiculous.  If that puck wasn’t over the line then goals should only count when they hit the back of the twine because the goalie can put his glove over the puck.  If you can’t see the puck then it’s not in the net.

Agreed… and this with Colin Campbell supposedly in attendance at the Joe last night… and to say nothing of Turco’s idiocy.  And, I can’t even imagine any of that crap going on if the refs would have actually done their job calling Dallas in the 2nd period for their extra-curricular stuff, instead of hearing a bunch of Dallas whining in their small-brained heads… stinking zebras

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A couple of wins in Dallas might assuage my ire a bit though

Oh… almost forgot… Thanks Gary. Ass

Well, let’s be fair about Ribeiro.

First, he doesn’t hit hard enough to really hurt anyone.

Second, he was probably trying to hit Osgood in the hip and shot high.  Seems to be a Dallas Stars malaise.

Third, if he was suspended for a game he wouldn’t risk getting plastered by Kronwall.

Let him play.  Dallas needs all the offense they can get, and I’m curious to see if Mickey Ribs can deliver in the clutch any better in Dallas than he could in Montreal.  If things are too easy for Detroit they might not be prepared for Pittsburgh. 

Called it!  Read all my previous posts all over to confirm my genius

So, should Mac do something directly, or does the team continue on its merry way and frustrate their game?  Maybe a little more follow through on him, but no direct retribution moment. That would be my vote, only because I can taste the sweep...and it tastes like a screwdriver!

What ye say?

Ott was fined too; right on.

Sorry Nate, me no reed so good,

he was probably trying to hit Osgood in the hip and shot high

how can you hit a guy in the hip when you’re swinging your stick at him from behind the chest-high net?

I’ve still yet to see anything ‘official’ by way of the league regarding no suspension.

Either way, if that isn’t a suspension, Thanks Gary. Ass! Wonder if I would get a suspension for shoving my boot up your crack after a game some day.

Seems to me that if AFTER a game has ended, ANY physical confrontation that occurs could be grounds for CIVIL or CRIMINAL misconduct.

Screw the league, have the Detroit or Michigan State Police arrest him tomorrow at about 4pm and bring him in and make him post bail. You can bet if I came to Dallas and wacked Turdco in the chest with a golf club they would have me in the can in no time. IS there really any difference?

Better idea....have Lilja wait outside the arena for Ribeiro and have him pull a Tonya Harding on him. Worst case scenario would be a 2 for 1.....WIN WIN for me any day

She’ being sarcastic Paul and picking on their inability to aim anything at Ozzie all night.

Check this out y’all: NHL.com’s Sam McCaig breaks down most of our players’ position in the draft and their rise. Thhomas, you reading? Ass.

After watching the incident again, it appears that Ribeiro swung the stick with a pretty great deal of force, but the stick was slowed because it hit the crossbar before hitting Osgood’s shoulder.  The impact with the crossbar resulted in the broken stick that was shown on Vs.  So if the net hadn’t been in the way, the slash would have clearly been as bad as Jamie McLennan’s was last year on Franzen (which resulted in a 5 game suspension, I think).  It may have even been worse, since it was aimed quite a bit higher than the stomach area.

This seems like another situation where the NHL made their decision based on the media’s reaction to the incident, rather than the precedent that they have set based on previous similar incidents.  The prevailing wisdom amongst the media appears to be that the slash was OK because it was in retaliation and the stick only made weak contact with Osgood’s shoulder (despite his theatrics).  These things should not matter in this situation.  If the NHL really wants to discourage the use of equipment as weapons, they should continue to hand out suspensions for intentional stick swings and stomping incidents.  The circumstances, the media/fan reaction, the importance of the game etc. should not be taken into consideration.  The only things that should be taken into consideration are whether there was premeditation and intent to injure.

Lest ye forget....

“Sure it’d be good to go out there and goon the guy, but that’s not hockey. Let’s play good, hard, passionate hockey like they did in the Roman times. I’m not going to run their guys to prove a point but you know what, I’ll go out there and get him back. Fair justice is fair justice.”

Aaron D.

The ice in Dallas may be crap for puck handling but it provides better footing for the, uh emm, other aspects of the game.  Bring in the Romans, fair justice and all that…

Just sarcasm at Mickey Ribs’ expense, Paul.

I wouldn’t put such horrid aim beyond the abilities of any player on a team that could have a four-on-one and miss the net entirely.  I knew Kronwall was good, but to defend four Stars at once?  Wow. 

@ Osrt: 

Thanks for the link.  Loved the bit on cranky old man Chelios:

Chris Chelios
Trade with Chicago, 1999
After inventing the game of hockey during the first Ice Age, Chelios was frozen in a glacier for 10,000 years. Then he sailed around the world with Noah for a while. He has survived locusts, the Great Depression and both world wars. Some say he started the Great Fire of London in 1666, but Chelios claims he “was out that day.”

I think how the Wings get back at McRib is by finishing every check on him in the next game and wait for him to retaliate or fall down and fake an injury.

This is really a very simple debate.

If the Stars fans and the league offices would be fine with Holmstrom turning around at any point during any game when Turco slashes, punches or tries to castrate him with his fists and goalstick and swinging his stick two handed into Turco’s chest as hard as he can, then I don’t have a problem.

If they’d say one word, utter one peep, or in any way evince even the slightest discomfort with that, then they and the league offices can absolutely go f*** themselves.

Using alleged provocation as minor as what Osgood did to mitigate the severity of what Ribiero did is the most blatant demonstration of league freaking stupidity.  Seriously, how much rope did Ribiero brushing Ozzie’s stick give him?  Could he punch Ozzie in the face?  Knee him in the groin?  Try and stomp on the back of his knee with his skate blade?  What kind of blank check does brushing past a stick give a guy, anyway?

Khan(!) pointed out that prior to Ribiero brushing Osgood’s stick, both he and Ott were barrelling in on a defenseless Rafalski with who-knows-what-intent.

It’s amazing.  The NHL league offices are so ineptly run they are actually making it difficult for me to enjoy it when the team I root for WINS for Christ’s sake.  How is that even possible?

The best part about that is the fact McRib and Ott were bearing down on Nick as time ran out. When they checked him, the clock was on 00:00.  If Ozzie hadn’t done what he did, Ribeiro, at least, would’ve hit Nick full-bore, after the horn sounded.  When he had let up on the play, and wasn’t likely in a position to defend himself.

Talk about gutless.  And, y’know, I blame Tippett, frankly.  There’s obviously a strategy here where “finishing your checks” has a double meaning.  Shove the goalie after the whistle, try to start shit with him, trip and slash Homer or any other forward that comes near the net, let Ott loose in the last seconds, with the game out of hand.  I mean, if you’re trying to score, why put that f****** hack out there? 

“Sending a message,” that’s why.  And Dallas apparently likes to send messages the way St. Louis and Bubba do.  By hurting players that are better than they are.

The best part about that is the fact McRib and Ott were bearing down on Nick as time ran out.

I don’t remember who the second guy was, but it wasn’t Ott. When the game ended, he was in the box for his manly rabbit punch on Draper.

The best part about that is the fact McRib and Ott were bearing down on Nick as time ran out. When they checked him, the clock was on 00:00.  If Ozzie hadn’t done what he did, Ribeiro, at least, would’ve hit Nick full-bore, after the horn sounded.  When he had let up on the play, and wasn’t likely in a position to defend himself.

Sorry mudshark, that is just wildly inaccurate.

Have a look again:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gwteGUN0sUY

Thanks for the link l4e.

I’m not even sure why Ribiero is skating in that fast with two seconds left on the clock. He and the other player charging in are in full stride and it would have been hard to tell if they were going to let up on Raffy or not.

So it was Ribeiro and Robidas...that would explain who that other guy Tippett was talking to before that faceoff was.  Hm.

Seriously, those two and Tippett had a con-fab at the Stars’ bench for what seemed like a timeout’s worth of time before that last faceoff.  It was suspicious to say the least.

I’m not surprised.  This is Colin Campbell’s league, and in Colin Campbell’s league, if somebody gives one and gets one, it’s all good, especially in the playoffs.

I’ve been the one who’s done the butt-end-on-accident, and it’s not fun.  You don’t want to get that blocker up because you’re worried that a) you’ll be called for interference, or b) the guy’s going to think you’re a goalie psycho who’s attacking him, not slowing him down, so you lift up the blocker a bit, try to make the guy go the long way around because you know that skating into your stick’s a deterrent, and nobody’s stupid enough to skate into your...Ah, crap, here comes hell!

That’s how it goes.  I’m not suggesting that Ribeiro is stupid per se, but I’m saying that’s how it happens when you’re the one who does it.  Do NHL goalies have a better sense of where the butt end of their stick is than the rest of us schlubs?  Yeah, but if you’re going to go and hurt somebody, you go and hurt them, and the bottom edge of your blocker’s a much nastier blunt object than the butt end of your goal stick.

The intent wasn’t there, not the explicit intent, anyway.  Osgood wanted to make Ribeiro take the long way around, and Ribeiro didn’t do so. 

Besides, if you think that a goaltender doesn’t feel it when he gets slashed by a two-hander, then you must think that goalies never, ever feel the puck when the stop shots, like it’s wearing a spacesuit or something, not a few inches of plastic and high-density foam padding that can still leave bruises, welts, and the occasional minor internal bleeding that is part and parcel of playing goal when a puck (or stick) hits you with substantial force behind it.

Lilja- Ok, maybe I got a few of the players wrong, but it ain’t “wildly inaccurate.” Ribeiro - and who ever that other schmuck was- were in the process of running one of our D behind the net- whether it was Raffi or Nick doesn’t really matter to me, as time was winding down.  I really don’t know which part of what I wrote was “wildly inaccurate” as the clock is well past zero when the two Stars players made contact.  The contact was weak, sure, but that’s my point.  Obviously, Ribeiro, having been the victim of a vicious butt-end to the vagina on his way to Flunkytown, didn’t finish what he started.  But when you’re going full-bore at a guy behind the net, with the puck, and you cross the blueline with, um 1.5 seconds left, you’re not going in there to say hi… Especially not after that crap Ott was pulling and with Brendan Morrow - Captain Ahab- crying in the penalty box, too..

You don’t run guys as time’s winding out and then take offense when somebody tries to get in your way to prevent it.  That was my point, and I’m sorry if my “spin” or whatever upset you…

Robidas was unhindered and did not “run” Rafalski.  To me it just looked like two players hustling to a puck - which I figure they’re taught to do whether there are 2 seconds left or 2 periods.  you never stop trying.

now, could it have looked different to Osgood?  sure.  were Osgood’s actions a penalty?  sure.  interference, high sticking, something.  but just a two-minute minor.

Ribeiro’s actions on the other hand should be a suspension.  otherwise the league is saying it’s OK to do something like that as long as the other guy committed a penalty against you first.  ridiculous.  at most, Ribeiro should have gotten in Osgood’s face, shoved him, whatever.

were Osgood’s actions a penalty?  sure.  interference, high sticking, something.  but just a two-minute minor.

to add to this, of course...in that game it would have been woefully inconsistent for them to call Osgood - considering all the crap Turco got away with.

it’s OK though, I don’t mind them letting Turco do that stuff.  he’s obviously losing it, and letting him keep doing those things is just taking his mind more and more away from the game.

Not that it would do any good but…
How does one piss a bitch to the league office? Anybody got an address or phone # ?

How does one piss a bitch to the league office? Anybody got an address or phone # ?

Wait outside in the bushes with a high-powered rifle and a scope.  That’s what I do, because it’s the only thing they’ll listen to.  A blind ear is turned to reason and logic; hot lead works much better.

Wait outside in the bushes with a high-powered rifle and a scope.

Personally, I’d use a supersoaker filled with holy water and watch as those bloodsuckers melt like cheese on a grill.

A blind ear is turned to reason and logic; hot lead works much better.

“League offices” go together with “reason and logic” like “Hasek” and “mentally stable.” (Or “Barry Melrose” and “hockey expert” if you prefer.)

“Wildly inaccurate” would aptly describe RW fan observations about most incidents.  Not the most edumacated fan base in the league, to be sure.  Neither Ribiero or Robida were running anyone.  Both of them let up on Rafalski when the whistle blew, butt end or not.  You guys are just hilarious.