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Note To Kenny: I’ve Got Another One For You
by IwoCPO on 06/26/08 at 09:14 AM ET
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Memo below inspired by A2Y logic Czar, Grampa Pinhead.
Dear Tick Tock,
I know I said I’d leave you alone this summer. I said this was the true “Summer of Ken.” Your time to relax and enjoy the accolades and the rainbows, the puppies and bonfires and stuff.
But I take it back. I take it all back and I’m not ashamed.
Because Kenny?
We want you to sign Darcy Tucker.
We want you to sign him quickly, like July 1st at 0001. We’d like you to sign him because we saw what Dallas Drake did for this team last year and we think Tucker would offer at least that.
We’d like you to sign him because as much as we enjoy antagonizing the Dive fans and the Bitter Bitch Blues fans, the instinct to give it to the TO faithful is ingrained in us like nothing else.
We think you can get Tucker for relatively cheap, Kenny. We’re thinking 4 mil/year for two years? Yep. Fits the structure doesn’t it? I told you it would.
Kenny, you’re our friend. We like you.
Now get it done bitch.
Sincerely,
(Some of) The A2Y 19
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Darcy Tucker would be a great Red Wing, he can score, add ssome fire and grit and is a Babcock type of guy. Hell yes
Posted by bababooey on 06/26/08 at 01:07 PM ET
Andrew - ouch, my bad. Yes, leave off the zero I managed to place on the end.
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 06/26/08 at 01:37 PM ET
i love Walt!
and Jerry!
each of those are great hockey names, much better than Valterri and Jiri.
obviously, my opinion but i shall now refer to said players as such.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAa_72JjHk4
from day after Wings won the cup, my playoff beard still intact.
Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 06/26/08 at 03:05 PM ET
today is the slowest day ever.
how is this for a question. let’s say every player on the team is a UFA. they all leave. how long before kenny has the wings back on top?
i say 3 days.
A piece of string walks into a bar with his buddies. They all go up to the bar to order their drinks before sitting down. The string tries to order a beer, but the bartender says “I’m sorry, but we don’t serve strings here.”
The string goes and sits down, a little PO’ed. A few minutes later, he figures he’ll try his luck and attempt to get a beer. He’s walks up and the bartender says to him “listen buddy, i’m sorry, but we just don’t serve strings.”
So he goes and sits back down. A few minutes later, he comes up with an idea. He ties himself into a loop, takes the end of it and rubs on it until it gets a little loose.
He walks up to the bar again, and the bartender says “hey, aren’t you a string?”
String replies “no, i’m a frayed knot”
Posted by rwingscup19 from Dallas on 06/26/08 at 03:26 PM ET
i love Walt!
and Jerry!
from San Francisco
‘nuff said. (I kid, I kid)
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/26/08 at 03:26 PM ET
ooh that cuts, man. at least now you’ll be able to come out here when you and your boyfriend want to get hitched.
Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 06/26/08 at 03:29 PM ET
Joakim (??????) Andersson
Actually, this is a pretty impressive name:
(courtesy of several iterations on http://www.behindthename.com/)
JOAKIM = Scandinavian form of JOACHIM
JOACHIM = Contracted form of JEHOIACHIN or JEHOIAKIM. According to the apocryphal Gospel of James, Saint Joachim was the husband of Saint Anne and the father of the Virgin Mary.
JEHOIACHIN = Means “established by YAHWEH” in Hebrew. In the Old Testament this is the name of a king of Judah who was imprisoned in Babylon by Nebuchadnezzar.
JEHOIAKIM = Means “raised by YAHWEH” in Hebrew. In the Old Testament this is the name of a king of Judah, the father of Jehoiachin.
So essentially, it’s the name of a king. Not as wimpy as you might think, eh? 
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/26/08 at 03:51 PM ET
dude, you started it. haha. i think it’s only fair that i’m able to give you a comeback. obviously i also kid.
just don’t rag on my city.
Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 06/26/08 at 03:51 PM ET
BTW, if anyone is all that bored, look up your own name on http://www.behindthename.com/.
Here’s our fearless leader: 
BILL = Short form of WILLIAM, arising in the 19th century. The change in the initial consonant may have been influenced by an earlier Irish pronunciation of the name.
WILLIAM = From the Germanic name Wilhelm, which was composed of the elements wil “will, desire” and helm “helmet, protection”. The name was introduced to Britain by the Normans. It has belonged to several rulers of England, Prussia, and Germany, including William the Conqueror, the first Norman king of England. Other famous bearers were Willian Wallace, a 13th-century Scottish hero, and William Tell, a legendary 14th-century Swiss hero. In the literary world it has been borne by dramatist William Shakespeare and poet William Blake, as well as contemporary authors William Faulkner and William S. Burroughs.
The derivation of my own name is actually a little scary, so I’m not sure how to feel about that.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/26/08 at 04:04 PM ET
just don’t rag on my city.
Okay, fine. But in the spirit of keeping up the snarky juvenilicity that A2Y is known and loved for, I have to ask:
Why did you grow a playoff beard? Were you in the playoffs? And why was said playoff beard still intact after the playoffs were over? Do you consider yourself a “playa,” so you feel the need to keep a playoff beard year-round?
Please answer. My boyfriend needs to know!
(BTW, your band didn’t sound half bad.)
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/26/08 at 04:14 PM ET
And FYI:
DARCY
Gender: Masculine & Feminine
From a Norman surname meaning “from Arcy” from French D’Arcy, originally denoting one who came from Arcy in France. This is the surname of a character in Jane Austen’s novel ‘Pride and Prejudice’.
Still want Tucker, if you are going to judge based on “hockey name” or not?
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/26/08 at 04:25 PM ET
Congratulations Chief, your proud name means “to protect my head.”
bitch
Posted by Osrt on 06/26/08 at 04:40 PM ET
I’m late to this party, and the conversation seems to have taken a bit of a turn, but…
Please, please, no. I know you’re reading this, Kenny, so please ignore everyone who suggests getting Darcy Tucker. Ignore the comparisons to Dallas Drake. They’re both the “gritty” type of players that some fans and media types love to overrate, but the similarities end there.
Darcy Tucker scored 0.3 points per 60 minutes of even-strength ice time more than Drake did last year, and he did it with better teammates against worse competition. He also played 3 minutes a night on an average power play (15th overall), yet only managed 10 points in 74 games—that’s 2.6 points per 60 minutes—worse than every Wings forward this side of Kopecky. He also wasn’t good enough to play on the second worst penalty kill in the league, compared to Drake’s 3 PK minutes a game last year. And to compound that problem, he took two penalties every three games, compared to Drake, who took just over one penalty every four.
That’s not even getting into the whole question of leadership, character, and dressing room presence. Darcy Tucker does not have anything to bring to the Red Wings. Stay, stay, stay away.
Posted by Ryan from Toronto on 06/26/08 at 04:56 PM ET
Valteri = WALTER
Gender: Masculine
Usage: English, German, Scandinavian, Polish
Pronounced: WAWL-tur (English), VAHL-ter (German, Polish) [key]
From a Germanic name meaning “ruler of the army”, composed of the elements wald “rule” and heri “army”. A famous bearer of this name was Sir Walter Scott, a Scottish novelist who wrote ‘Ivanhoe’ and other notable works.
Sounds good to me.
Flip can lead the Red (Wing) Army some day.
Posted by w2j2 on 06/26/08 at 05:25 PM ET
for the record, the juvenility has always been fine by me. gay-bashing…not so much. however, in the spirit of your question:
i grew it for solidarity. and i was too stoked after the win to shave it off. and i don’t really have a strong chin so i make up for it with a manageable beard most of the time. right before the playoffs start, i shave it all and start anew. like singles night at Necto’s in Ann Arbor. where you met your boyfriend. and i met mine.
double burn.
Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 06/26/08 at 05:35 PM ET
corson/tucker/roberts…
god i miss when the leafs were at least a threat in the east. H.N.I.C. gold right there.
Posted by christpuncher from detroit on 06/26/08 at 05:38 PM ET
I SPENT THE MORNING WITH THE CUP!
Kelle Ilitch brought the Cup to share with several hundred kids with muscular dystrophy this morning at their annual summer camp.
I’m blessed to be able to party with my MDA friends every year at Camp Cavell about 45 north of Port Huron every year, and this year’s topper was the glorious arrival of the silver chalice.
The Ilitch family is PURE class and they made a bunch of really amazing kids that much more important this morning….not to mention making a dream come true for me.
WOW….simply WOW. There are no other words. I hope you all get your turn!
Thanks Red Wings:)
Posted by Scott H from Kalamazoo on 06/26/08 at 05:45 PM ET
I’d love to see either him or Avery on the team next year if Drake retires.
we need some sort of voting mechanism to ban people from posting for a couple days.
Avery? um, HELL no. we don’t want a jackass like THIS on our team:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ec_2oKWe2Gw
or, wait, maybe we do. would he take the focus off of Homer in front of the net?
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 06/26/08 at 05:48 PM ET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAa_72JjHk4
from day after Wings won the cup, my playoff beard still intact.
No matter what YZ says, I think your city and your band are great, Alex. In particular, I loved the gal on the left doing the 60’s tambourine shimmy-shake. What a flashback that was. 
As for Tucker…No…No…No! Please…NO!
Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids on 06/26/08 at 06:54 PM ET
ALEX:
You, sir, are a crazy motherf**ker!
Keep on rockin, brother.
Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 06/26/08 at 08:33 PM ET
congrats scott, sounds like the kids had the time of there life and so did you. Ilitch’s are total class!
Posted by hankyspanky40 from Michigan on 06/26/08 at 09:59 PM ET
I SPENT THE MORNING WITH THE CUP!
Kelle Ilitch
That’s all I read and care to read; I’ll just assume you are “performed” for such a blessing and will now be needing some of my specialty products, all for the low discount price of season tickets.
Posted by Osrt on 06/26/08 at 10:14 PM ET
We can’t call Fil anything resembling “Walt”, That nickname is reserved for Fatchuck (called him that ever since he managed to get booted from training camp for being like 15 lbs overweight, and Hully used to refer to himself as the “laziest person alive”).
There is no way we can use the same nickname for a Wing as an established veteran in a place like STL.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/27/08 at 08:15 AM ET
gay-bashing…not so much.
Alex—
Gay bashing? Huh? I made a stupid joke tying your comments about the names Walter and Jerry to the fact that you live in San Francisco, which is very well known for having a very large gay community. If anything, I was guilty of being cliche. If, however, I did actually offend anyone, I’d like to sincerely apologize.
No matter what YZ says, I think your city and your band are great
OTC—
I never said anything bad about San Francisco! Unless, that is, you—like Alex—think it’s “ragging” on San Francisco to make a lame joke based on the fact that a lot of gay people live there. Personally, I have nothing against San Francisco or gay people. Finally, RE: Alex’s band, I said they weren’t half bad. Actually, they sounded pretty good, but I wasn’t in the mood for dishing out a sincere compliment to Alex just then.
we need some sort of voting mechanism to ban people from posting for a couple days.
I nominate myself. I think it’s me, not the Chief, who needs a vacation!
Oy vey! (Now I suppose I’m a Jew baiter too.)
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/27/08 at 08:29 AM ET
OTC—
I never said anything bad about San Francisco! Unless, that is, you—like Alex—think it’s “ragging” on San Francisco to make a lame joke based on the fact that a lot of gay people live there.
I wasn’t sure what you meant by your remarks to Alex so all I said was “No matter what YZ says, I think your city and your band are great…”. I didn’t say you “ragged” on him or The City. Relax. It’s all good. We’ve got much bigger things to worry about…like Lilja being resigned.
Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids on 06/27/08 at 08:45 AM ET
Oy vey! (Now I suppose I’m a Jew baiter too.)
Huh? Sorry YZ, you’ll really have to try better than that if you want to get my dander up. I’ve got thicker skin than that. If you’re looking for a fight, jokes about gefilte fish, my mother, and the fact that I’m neither a doctor or a lawyer work well.
JEHOIAKIM = Means “raised by YAHWEH” in Hebrew.
As long as I’ve got my Jewish hat on, this is a bad corruption of what that would really translate to. A better translation, if you’re using ‘Yahweh’ (the Tetragrammaton) would be ‘Javehgorem.’ Feh.
Congratulations Chief, your proud name means “to protect my head.”
I actually read it as ‘Wants a helmet.’ I can’t imagine what that MEANS…
The derivation of my own name is actually a little scary, so I’m not sure how to feel about that.
Color me intrigued. Then again, ‘Andrew’ is from the Greek for ‘Manly.’ Talk about having the wrong freaking name…I blame Andrew Young’s father for giving his son, a hero of my father’s, that name.
Andrew - ouch, my bad. Yes, leave off the zero I managed to place on the end.
S’aright, Chic. Means I’m still in the lead!
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from the uselessly competetive iPod races on 06/27/08 at 08:45 AM ET
‘Javehgorem.’
Oops, make that ‘Yahvehgoreem.’ Still sounds like crap though.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor on 06/27/08 at 08:50 AM ET
We’ve got much bigger things to worry about…like Lilja being resigned.
OTC—
Amen to that. I keep hoping that it’ll be one of those “sign and trade” deals like in the NBA.
Oops, make that ‘Yahvehgoreem.’ Still sounds like crap though.
AndrewFromAnnArbor—
I can hardly wait for Budd Lynch to get a hold of ‘Yahvehgoreem’ Andersson. Poor guy had enough trouble with Vyacheslav Kozlov.
I SPENT THE MORNING WITH THE CUP!
Scott H—
(Forgot this one last time) Congrats to you for having a great Cup experience, but more importantly, for your work with MDA.
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/27/08 at 09:19 AM ET
Andrew, you’re in the lead but only until I get my 60g Ipod.
Think I finally recovered from my Rush concert hangover. Have to tell you all that I wore my Red Wings cap to the concert and got a lot of grief from people but then when I said “2008 Stanley Cup Champs” everyone responded with “Congratulations” or “Your team totally earned it.” I even got a “Gotta respect the Wings.” It was fun. Just memo to self - half a bottle of champagne followed by one beer and then a margarita and not much food makes for a very, very bad next day.
Scott H - That is so awesome that you got to be with the Cup and thanks for your excellent work with MDA.
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 06/27/08 at 09:59 AM ET
YZ, i wasn’t suggesting you were gay-bashing. sorry.
i think the real problem is that July 1st is taking FOREVER to get here so we can figure out our team. once that’s done, we can talk more hockey and less extracurriculars.
ps any word on Drake’s status? i hope he retires but i can’t say i’d blame him to come back for half a mil or more to play a game he loves and try to win another cup.
Posted by Alex from San Francisco on 06/27/08 at 11:16 AM ET
Alex—
I’m sorry for my part, too.
After all, we’re here for the same noble cause. Let’s save our vitriol for those who truly deserve it…like Penguins or Leafs fans!
GO WINGS!!!!!
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/27/08 at 11:46 AM ET
The derivation of my own name is actually a little scary, so I’m not sure how to feel about that.
Color me intrigued.
Well, since you asked - Look up the first name of Catherine and follow it through to Hecate. How’d you feel if your name could be derived from a goddess of the underworld and demons? Spooky.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/27/08 at 11:54 AM ET
Baroque - we are in the same boat since my name is a Welsh derivation of Catherine. Does that mean we can rule over the NJ Devils? (shudder)
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 06/27/08 at 12:22 PM ET
Oh, I know who Hecate was. If it’s any comfort whatsover Baroque, in the classical Greek pantheon, she was the female spirit of wild nature, and of childbirth, associated with Artemis (goddess of the hunt). Kind of a strong female character, a prototype of Lilith (the good parts of Lilith, obviously). Strong, independent women were problematic anathema to the early Church, hence the demonization of Lilith, and Hecate with her. Now isn’t that a much nicer identity?
Of course, the site does say that the source is in dispute. It could also come from “each of the two” (whatever THAT means), “torture” (okay, not great), but could be ‘from a Coptic name meaning “my consecration of your name.”’ And the last one, “pure.” Not too bad. Then, of course, there’s the association with Pavel Datsyuk’s hometown (Yekaterinburg). Now aren’t those much better than witchcraft and the underworld? (And before you mention it, yes, I know Yekaterinburg is the grim industrial Soviet city where the Romanovs met their grisly end and the Russian Tsarist dynasty died, but I prefer to think of Pavel.)
I went back over Joakim while I was there, and I think they’re actually getting their sources mixed up. ‘Established by God’ using the Tetragrammaton makes a heck of a lot more sense—the Hebrew would be ‘Yah-veh-hah-keem.’ Turn the name into the Latin pronunciation Jehovah, and you’ve got ‘Jeh-ho-hah-keem.’ Much better than the mangling seen previously.
Chic (Welsh Catherine? I’m guessing Catrin), when you catch me up, let’s you and me swap players for a week. Confuse the hell out of each other.
Just promise me that if you do rule the Devils, you won’t end up looking like Lou Lamoriello.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from a cave, cowering in fear of Lou on 06/27/08 at 12:35 PM ET
Hey, Scott. Congrats on a great story. Your story was reported on a blog on NHL.com:
http://fans.nhl.com/members/stanley_cup/blogs/17403
It’s the second to the last story at the bottom of the page.
Posted by SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 06/27/08 at 12:42 PM ET
Does that mean we can rule over the NJ Devils? (shudder)
First move: Trade for Satan!
I went back over Joakim while I was there, and I think they’re actually getting their sources mixed up.
Slow day at work? Sounds like your are bored out of your mind.
“Pure” isn’t much better - my middle name has a root which may derive from a word for “rebelliousness.”
I’m not sure that “pure rebel” is much better than the goddess of death, but either way it’s a more interesting name than “Apple.”
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/27/08 at 02:17 PM ET
First move: Trade for Satan!
Pretty sure he’s a UFA, so you won’t have to give up any of your lesser demons to get him.
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/27/08 at 02:26 PM ET
we need some sort of voting mechanism to ban people from posting for a couple days.
Avery? um, HELL no. we don’t want a jackass like THIS on our team:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ec_2oKWe2Gw
or, wait, maybe we do. would he take the focus off of Homer in front of the net?
Hahahha! Nice. Say what you will about Avery but he’s A: Younger than tucker, B: an easy and familiar fit with the organization, and under Babcock would most likely be made to behave, C: actually is effective when he drops the gloves, something we haven’t seen for a long, long time, and D: scores goals. If we’re going to blow 1.5 million, Tucker’s our man. If we’re going to blow 3.5, I still think Avery would be a great option.
Besides, now that Hasek’s gone, we have no bizarre antics to watch game to game.
Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 06/27/08 at 02:34 PM ET
Good grief… I just looked my first name. The meaning is spot on, but not so sure there is anything remotely saintly abot me nor pious.
My 3 name direct translation becomes: “watchful/alert enclosure black”. Guess I’ll stick with what’s on the birth cert.
From Behind the name:
From the Latin Gregorius, which was from the late Greek name Γρηγοριος (Gregorios), which was derived from γρηγορος (gregoros) meaning “watchful, alert”. This was the name of several saints including three Fathers of the Church: Saint Gregory Thaumaturgus (3rd century), Saint Gregory of Nyssa, and Saint Gregory of Nazianzus (both 4th century). This was also the name of 16 popes, including Gregory I, who was known as Gregory the Great.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/27/08 at 02:39 PM ET
SYF, Cool that you pointed the blog out and scott’s story!
Posted by hankyspanky40 from Michigan on 06/27/08 at 02:46 PM ET
Besides, now that Hasek’s gone, we have no bizarre antics to watch game to game.
That may be true, but we do still have Homer’s delightful linguistic skills.
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/27/08 at 02:49 PM ET
How’d you feel if your name could be derived from a goddess of the underworld and demons? Spooky.
Like the FU#@#NG MAN! ....oh sorry, wrong forum.
Strong, independent women were problematic anathema to the early Church, hence the demonization of Lilith, and Hecate with her.
They kept those demon whores where they needed to be, outside the margins. In fact, TeamDub was a bishop during his previous incarnation and told those rabble rousers to “shut their whore mouths.” It was a touching moment.
Feed. Me. Hockey.
Posted by Osrt on 06/27/08 at 02:52 PM ET
Just promise me that if you do rule the Devils, you won’t end up looking like Lou Lamoriello.
Heck, yes, I can make that promise. For one, I have hair on my head still!
You are close on the name, Andrew very close.
That would be fun to swap players and see how much we have in common and how much is different.
Is it hockey season yet?
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 06/27/08 at 03:32 PM ET
How about coach Babcock:
MICHAEL
From the Hebrew name מִיכָאֵל (Mikha’el) which meant “who is like God?”. This is the name of one of the seven archangels in Hebrew tradition and the only one identified as an archangel in the Bible. In the Book of Revelation in the New Testament he is portrayed as the leader of heaven’s armies, and thus is considered the patron saint of soldiers.
This was the name of nine Byzantine emperors and a czar of Russia. Other more modern bearers of this name include the 19th-century chemist/physicist Michael Faraday and basketball player Michael Jordan.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/27/08 at 03:38 PM ET
hockeychic, I’m gonna go with Katrina.
[rolls the dice and hopes for a seven on the come-out]
Posted by SYF from Las Vegas, NV on 06/27/08 at 03:40 PM ET
Ha, my ex name meant mighty protector, Hardly. The french origin or some origin of Sheri means beloved. I think anyway, kinda rings a bell, then again as I often am, I could be wrong
Posted by hankyspanky40 from Michigan on 06/27/08 at 03:45 PM ET
STUART
Gender: Masculine
Usage: English, Scottish
Pronounced: STOO-art, STYOO-art [key]
From a surname which was a variant of the surname STEWART. This was the surname of a royal family that produced several kings and queens of Scotland and England.
All the more reason to hate my parents for giving me this godforsaken name! It doesn’t even have an interesting back story.
So I’m a Scottish royalty wannabe/groupie with a strong desire for a new helmet? (Williams is my surname, thank you very much.)
Posted by lilja4ever on 06/27/08 at 03:54 PM ET
lilja4ever—
You, of all people, should know better than to let a mere name define you. Now, go out there and ram into some Britons with yer bloody head!
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 06/27/08 at 04:01 PM ET
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The consensus translation is apparently ‘George.’ Huh.
As for Sergei, don’t even bother. Of Latin origin, apparently there’s no English equivalent. The closest would be the French ‘Serge.’ For what it’s worth, many Sergeis from Russia, upon immigrating to the West, commonly took the names ‘Charles’ or ‘Cyril.’ So he’s ‘Chuck Kolosov.’ Does that help?
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from lost in the interwebz on 06/26/08 at 01:04 PM ET