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by IwoCPO on 05/20/08 at 10:46 AM
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Look. It’s not like we didn’t see this coming.  It’s not as if we expected that the Finals would, umm, refine us as a group of 19 Wing fans.  So we have a choice.  We can raise our level of conversation.  We can combat the evil hordes at Pensblog with statistical references and mythical powerpoint presentations dating back to the 2003 draft…

...or we can fall back on what we know.  We can let our instincts guide us to that haven of juvenilacity where we feel warm and secure.

Me?

I choose the latter.  Bitches.

image

Thanks TeamDub.

Here’s the deal.  There are 19 of us and 870, 000 of them.  I counted.  We cannot combat them with quantity, only quality.  This will not become a photoshop duel, but rather a battle of childish wit.  Contradiction of terms? To some, perhaps.

.  We’ll run them at select times.

And when the games finally begin...in like a month...thanks Gary. Ass....well, then firetrucks and puppies and hookers and Michigan brewed Ale will be our just rewards.

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Are you coming to the D for Game 1?

Posted by jmara85  on  05/20  at  10:56 AM

This might be the best line I have ever read from a Detroit hockey writer:

“Pittsburgh got Crosby and Malkin the old-fashioned way: by sucking.”

So true...so true.  Wings in 5.

There is a part of me that is disappointed the WCF are over...I was enjoying taunting all of the Stars in Texas.

Posted by John in Austin from Austin, Texas  on  05/20  at  11:02 AM

Are you coming to the D for Game 1?

Working it.  Tense negotiations are underway.

Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC  on  05/20  at  11:05 AM

Heh, thanks Chief - ‘twas my pleasure.

I plan on taking the ‘shops to a new, uncharted level of crudeness and immaturity.

‘Wings in 5.

Posted by TeamDub from Probably the garage, doing things I shouldn't.  on  05/20  at  11:05 AM

I know you don’t have any options as to what ads the NHL store shows in your jump between story and comments, but the Pens Conference Champion hat?  Really?

Posted by scsgoal31 from Harrison Twp, MI  on  05/20  at  11:16 AM

This might be the best line I have ever read from a Detroit hockey writer:

“Pittsburgh got Crosby and Malkin the old-fashioned way: by sucking.”

I was just about to post that quote. Brilliant, just brilliant.

Posted by Modnar from Cincinnati, OH  on  05/20  at  11:19 AM

Not only by sucking, but by keeping Malkin in Russia after drafting him so they could suck a second year in a row and cash in on Crosby smile

Posted by scsgoal31 from Harrison Twp, MI  on  05/20  at  11:28 AM

Scott Burnside at ESPN has picked the Pens in seven.  Hope Melrose picks the Pens.  smile

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO  on  05/20  at  11:31 AM

Not only by sucking, but by keeping Malkin in Russia after drafting him so they could suck a second year in a row and cash in on Crosby

Ok, I have to fix that statement by me.  They got Crosby because that season wasn’t played, so they got the most balls into the lottery to win Crosby.  They got Jordan because they sucked that year too.

Posted by scsgoal31 from Harrison Twp, MI  on  05/20  at  11:32 AM

in the immortal words of the hobo in Bugs Bunny:
“Pen-gui-ins is practic-ally chicken”

Posted by wingsfanindenver from 'lancheland  on  05/20  at  11:40 AM

I hate to say this, but I just took a look at the “Pensblog”.  Those guys look like a bunch of retards.  Seriously.

Posted by TDeters  on  05/20  at  11:48 AM

The hordes of ignorant Texans with piss-poor excuses for brains are vanquished!  Bring on the hordes of ignorant Pennsylvanians with piss-poor excuses for brains.  And oh boy, Penisblog (oh gee, did I put in an extra ‘I’ in there?) is full of them.  They’ll be showing up soon-- their advance scouts from Serbia have already arrived to talk trash badly and be ignored.  Boy, Eastern European labor-- you get what you pay for.  Well, bring ‘em all on, I say, we’re ready for ‘em.  Pithy pureile suggestions shall be forthcoming.

Let the Battle of the Rust Belt commence!

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from the Library of Disgusting Bodily Functions  on  05/20  at  11:54 AM

Ahhhh, I love how the internet connects us all!

Passed on to you “The 19” (plus us trolls), from a non-registered “wooter” to a rare Kukla/A2Y poster…

http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootfiles/20080519-rh0yza.mp3

Let’s Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by arcane_caf from NoVa - Outside D.C.  on  05/20  at  11:56 AM

“and” a rare Kukla/A2Y poster…

Posted by arcane_caf from NoVa - Outside D.C.  on  05/20  at  12:01 PM

I drew some cartoons for you chief. i have no idea how to do a photoshop. but my scanner’s not working right now, i will send them to you later.

Posted by scheisskopf  on  05/20  at  12:04 PM

“their advance scouts from Serbia have already arrived to talk trash badly and be ignored.”

Yeah, I was wondering about that…

Posted by AndrewB from TN  on  05/20  at  12:08 PM

“I drew some cartoons for you chief.”

If this was not said tongue in cheek than I greatly anticipate this.  If it’s not for real just reading the above gave me a good laugh.

Posted by AndrewB from TN  on  05/20  at  12:10 PM

I know you don’t have any options as to what ads the NHL store shows in your jump between story and comments, but the Pens Conference Champion hat?  Really?

ads?  there are ads on this blog?

I had no idea…

http://getfirefox.com

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach  on  05/20  at  12:19 PM

Go Penguins.

Posted by Kyle from Tomah,WI  on  05/20  at  12:32 PM

Did someone say photoshop? The gears are starting to turn.....
Thanks for the shout out in the other post chief!
Go Wings!

Posted by aaron from phoenix, that makes me a transplant  on  05/20  at  12:38 PM

ads?  there are ads on this blog?
I had no idea…
http://getfirefox.com

Haha..work computers suck.  Firefox lives on all my personal machines though.

Posted by scsgoal31 from Harrison Twp, MI  on  05/20  at  12:59 PM

juvenilacity

I’m good with that. 

Time for the post series visit to Betty Ford for the three day refresher. A little R&R;as it be.  Although, I must say after four visit in two months the staff is starting to ask questions.  Apparently, repeat business is not their forte.

Posted by Rumbear from Sandy Eggo  on  05/20  at  01:14 PM

it’s for real andrew, i spent my time in school drawing stupid pictures rather than doing any work. my grades reflected this very well. and i got suspended a couple times when drawings of faculty found their way into the wrong hands!

Posted by scheisskopf  on  05/20  at  01:21 PM

Detroit fans cheer for their team and are above degrading the opposition. Detroit fans know their hockey and respect the game too much to do that. Besides, Sidney Crosby reminds us of a young Steve Yzerman.

From daddy Kukla at his NHL blog.

Posted by Osrt  on  05/20  at  01:45 PM

We certainly know our hockey… I’ll leave it at that.

I appreciate the level of juvenilicity over at Pensblog. I put in a few respectful comments over there. I like them up until Saturday, and from then I hate them until the series is over. Then we can be friends again.

Posted by Nathan  on  05/20  at  01:54 PM

Uh… we can be friends again as long as nobody goes Claude Lemieux on one of our players.

Posted by Nathan  on  05/20  at  01:55 PM

scheisskopf,

Bring it! Looking forward to it after checking out Pensblog.

Posted by AndrewB from TN  on  05/20  at  02:11 PM

I was looking in on a Pens/Flyers game a few nights ago.  My kid, who’s been watching hockey and pulling for the Wings since she was a week old (she’s 6 now), asked who was playing. When I told her, she said “I love the Penguins!” I told her (loudly) that was grounds for immediate disowning and that she was no longer my daughter.  She said, “But they are cute and fat and slide around on their bellies!” As long as that’s all they do in the finals...but she’s still on my sh1t list.

GO WINGS!

Posted by WingBitch from Virginia  on  05/20  at  02:29 PM

As long as that’s all they do in the finals...but she’s still on my sh1t list.

LOL

reminds me of a quote from a commercial...dad says to son:  “remember how we’re not supposed to play favorites?  well, right now you’re #3.”

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach  on  05/20  at  02:38 PM

I just realized I have 87 points in my hockey pool.  Is that a good thing or bad?

Posted by jmara85  on  05/20  at  02:43 PM

one thing I meant to mention last night and forgot.  not sure I dare say it, but…

Lilja had a solid game last night.

oh oh

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach  on  05/20  at  03:13 PM

… Sidney Crosby reminds us of a young Steve Yzerman.

Hmm, doesn’t Crosby enjoy diving a bit too much for that comparison to hold?

If I had any photoshop skills I would use this photo.  Hopefully it can inspire someone.

Posted by lilja4ever  on  05/20  at  03:17 PM

Well, I’ve been posting over on Pensblog. I gotta tell you guys, you’d be proud of them. They’re juvenile when it’s required, but also willing to talk some plain old hockey respectfully. A lot like us over here.

One guy did wish that I’d die in a fire. So that wasn’t so great. But hey, it’s playoff time, and come Saturday when the puck drops, I will wish the same upon him.

Posted by Nathan  on  05/20  at  03:21 PM

I’d set my neighbor’s house on fire and suffer the consequences tomorrow if the Wings are up 2-0 after 1.


Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC on 05/19 at 08:08 PM

Anyone know what Chiefs neighbors house looks like today???
I watched the game outside at home on the patio, and my neighbors need not ask what team scored (again & again...... and again). But the Z shortie cost me a beer.... and I’d just opened it too. Damn a brick patio can mess with a beer.....

Posted by MOWingsfan19  on  05/20  at  03:36 PM

I can’t believe we have 6 days to wait for game 1...I couldn’t fall asleep after the game last night.

Thanks Gary, ...

Posted by WingInTO from Toronto  on  05/20  at  03:48 PM

MOWings, don’t know exactly what Chief’s neighbors house looks like today but based on the picture he posted @8:53pm in last nights Live Blog, I’ve got a pretty good idea.

Posted by Mike from La-La Land  on  05/20  at  04:06 PM

Lilja had a solid game last night.

OOOOOOoooo...Paul…

big surprise

Posted by WingBitch from Virginia  on  05/20  at  04:07 PM

I can’t believe we have 6 days to wait for game 1

I think you should return your calendar from wherever you bought it.  the game is in 4 days.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach  on  05/20  at  04:23 PM

In Pauls defence here, Lilja didn’t have a bad game at least.

And I somewhat agree with Nathan, there is some legit puck talk “over there"… some. The digression to juvenility makes it more fun anyway.

Mike,
The 8:53 photo looks plenty warm enough for a Turkey roast???

Posted by MOWingsfan19  on  05/20  at  05:02 PM

I wasn’t disputing Lilja’s performance.  I was proud of all of them last night.  Simply marveling at Paul’s huevos in making a point to say so about Lily.

On another note, reflecting on my daughter being on my sh1t list, I think she can come off of it now.  I was remembering how she jumped up and down on the couch during the 1st period screaming at Dallas through the TV.  “Get the black headed guys! Get the stupid cheese heads! Go Red Wings!” And she has been known to yell at live games: “Get’em! Stick ‘em! Kill ‘em!” So, I can’t disown her.  She’s cool.

Posted by WingBitch from Virginia  on  05/20  at  05:14 PM

I think you should return your calendar from wherever you bought it.  the game is in 4 days.

Thanks - Canadian holiday yesterday so I still think it’s Monday.  And the game day still counts as a wait day, dammit!  I guess I should be thankful it it means that we might get Mule back sooner in the series.

Posted by WingInTO from Toronto  on  05/20  at  05:17 PM

Well, I’ve been posting over on Pensblog.

I already have some of my commentary for the LBs pre-typed and ready for copy-and-paste whenever the situation calls for it:

Pittsburgh goal [because they sucked ass in 01-02] scored by # 19, Ryan Whitney!

Pittsburgh goal [because they sucked ass in 03-04] scored by # 71, Evgeni Malkin!

Pittsburgh goal [because they sucked ass in 03-04] scored by #87, Cindy Crosby!

Pittsburgh goal [because they sucked ass in 05-06] scored by #11, Jordan Staal!

Pittsburgh goaltender [because they sucked ass in 02-03] Marc-Andre Fleury with a great save!

Posted by O-Joe  on  05/20  at  06:01 PM

Hey, guys, we’ll be up to our usual ways over there for the series.

The hatred we have for the Sens, Rangers, and Flyers is tenfold what we have for the Red Wings.

So it’ll be plain-old hatred for the team standing in the way of the Stanley Cup.

We have every intent on keeping things somewhat tame over there, until Kris Draper starts getting away with crosschecks to the face.

Saturday will be a whole different story.

We know the game. 
But we bring it in a different way.
It’s why we prosper.

Posted by Pensblog  on  05/20  at  06:07 PM

Saturday will be a whole different story.

Oh, yes.  It’s Whiny Cindy’s coming out party for the SCF isn’t it?  Hard to forget that given how the media hypes the little diver every chance they get.

Will Little Gary (Ass) be the Master of Ceremonies for Friday night’s Debutante Ball?

Posted by O-Joe  on  05/20  at  06:23 PM

The hatred we have for the Sens, Rangers, and Flyers is tenfold what we have for the Red Wings.

Same can be said here for Bubba Jr, Bubba Sr and the Dive.  Have a good series. Looking forward to all that comes with it.

We also know the game, but aren’t real adult about how we reflect that knowledge.

We may not prosper, but it’s how we roll.

Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC  on  05/20  at  06:24 PM

I can’t wait for Chelios to show his stuff ... is he using a cane or a straight walker this series?

Posted by dubs  on  05/20  at  07:01 PM

When I told her, she said “I love the Penguins!” I told her (loudly) that was grounds for immediate disowning and that she was no longer my daughter.  She said, “But they are cute and fat and slide around on their bellies!”

You can’t disown her for that - she’s 100% correct.  Google “Adelie penguin” and tell me that isn’t the sweetest, more adorable little bird you ever saw.  Jackass penguins, macaroni penguins - they are all adorable.  Cute as the chipmunks of the avian world.

Course, they aren’t nearly as cute after they get chewed up by a leopard seal, but everyone has to eat something, so que sera, sera.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan  on  05/20  at  09:35 PM

is he using a cane or a straight walker this series?

He’s going to be using a mahogany cane with a carved ivory snake handle like the effin Pimp he is, bish smack all you hoes and jump in his purple caddy. Thanks for asking.

Posted by Osrt  on  05/21  at  03:06 AM

No trash talk from me. I just gave my prediction. Like almost all of you did. And I don’t know why my location disqualifies me from discussion.
One geographical lesson for the end: Serbia is not in the Eastern Europe. Pavel Datsyuk is from Eastern Europe. And of course, I don’t mean it in the negative way as most of you do. I would expect more respect for that part of the world from fans of the team that was revived with the help from many Russian players.

Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia  on  05/21  at  04:18 AM

Serbia counts as Eastern Europe if you go by the old Cold War delineation of East and West - probably now it counts more as central or southern Europe, but the old view still has influence.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan  on  05/21  at  04:43 AM

Funny you mentioned that. In todays Serbian newspaper there is an interview with some American political analyst about Serbian elections.
His point is that Serbian politicians do things the wrong way because they still think of the world in Cold War terms.
From now on I will talk strictly hockey. I guess nobody wants to read about Serbian politics.

Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia  on  05/21  at  05:06 AM

And I don’t know why my location disqualifies me from discussion.

Oversensitive, table for one?

All right grizzatch, if you want to get pedantic, I’ll refer to your corner of Mitteleuropa as the Balkans instead.  And if you want to trash-talk-- little hint here, saying stuff like “Glad to see you already have excuse for the moment when Gary presents the Cup to Crosby” counts as trash-talk, whereas “Pens in 4” is a simple prediction-- be prepared to take some back, including sweeping generalizations about your country and your countrymen.  I know, making jokes about Serb nationalism is hitting a nerve what with the Kosovan secession, but that’s how we roll.  Besides, with any sense and luck you’ll establish a clear DS majority after all the mess is sorted out, and begin EU accession talks soon enough.

We may not agree about Stanley Cup winners, but I think that I can wish you best of luck in Eurovision-- even if you won it last year and have to host it this year, I’m confident Jelena Tomasevic (as terrible as her song is) can at leaast beat our entry hands-down (if it makes it in).

Do videnja!

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from a plywood-and-glitter stage set in Belgrade  on  05/21  at  05:58 AM

I completely agree with you that our song is terrible. But we know the way Eurosong voting works,he who has the most workers abroad wins. Plus, we have 5 countries from former republic. so we will be in Top 3 as log as this stupid voting system is in place.
And now, invitation! If you want to join me Saturday night in Surcin to watch the game (after the Eurosong) just email me. I don’t know when you will be free, but game starts at 2am. There is no night bus at the time but I can pick you up. Or if you want we can have a drink some other day and discuss hockey. If you want to visit Surcin take 601 from Arena and go to the (dead) end.
Cheers

Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia  on  05/21  at  06:36 AM

Course, they aren’t nearly as cute after they get chewed up by a leopard seal, but everyone has to eat something, so que sera, sera.

Thanks Baroque!  The giggle was welcome this AM.

Posted by WingBitch from Virginia  on  05/21  at  08:54 AM

Game on fellows and fellas!  We look forward to a series full of playful jobbing, hopefully you guys put up more of a fight than “the Blueshirt Bulletin” or “the Orange Crush Blog”.  Two things, Bing doesn’t dive any more than Yzerman did, and the refs aren’t out to give the Penguins the cup.  I would think you guys can come up with better things than that.  Congrats on making it to the finals and good luck.  Pens in 7!

Posted by Boy from the Burgh from The great city of Pittsburgh  on  05/21  at  09:11 AM

You’re absolutely right about the voting, Kosta-- it’s a travesty.  That being said, I don’t know anyone who takes Eurovision seriously, so I don’t see it as a big deal, or even much of a symbol of national pride.  Of course, that could have something to do the facts that I’m American, lived in a few countries, and have never voted at all.  Besides, if the acts were being judged fairly, I bet Latvia would have a good shot this year-- everybody likes pirates, the tune is catchy, and one of the female singers is hotter than Three Mile Island.  But then, I thought the British entry a few years ago (Daz Sampson) was great, so what the hell do I know?

Let me just say HVALA LEPA for the invitation to watch the game and have a few beers, but despite what I wrote earlier, I’m not in Belgrade (that location was an allusion to Eurovision)-- I’m about 1200 km and an Alp or ten away from there.  I change my location in every post to reflect the fact that I’m no longer in Michigan, and I move around a fair bit.  While I could probably make the trip there, I have to be at a class by 14:00 on Sunday, so wouldn’t be able to make it back from Surcin in time.  Instead I’ll be up late on the liveblog here at A2Y and trying to keep from yelling loudly enough to wake the neighbors.  Depending on how we treat Crosby and Fleury, I might actually succeed this time.

No guarantees I won’t smash some glass, though.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from neither here nor there  on  05/21  at  10:29 AM

These supposedly passionate fans in great Hockeytown can’t even fill an arena during their conference finals. Joketown? I think so.

Keep talking when people go watch Wings games in person.

Posted by Steve McKenna  on  05/21  at  10:33 AM

OK, Andrew, you really caught me with that location thing. Belgrade is full of people from all over the Europe this week, so I thought you are from one of Eurovision delegations.
To hell with Eurosong, have a nice final series. Maybe we will have that beer some other time.
ZIVELI!

Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia  on  05/21  at  11:09 AM

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