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Pretty sure every one of you has H1N1, which is why I’ve kept my distance today.  Oh, I was tempted.  The discussion that just wouldn’t end about points and won/losses and hookers…a thriller. 

Thank god it’s almost game time on Little Gary’s Closed Circuit TV Station.

It’s Gary’s world.  If one accurate thing was uttered today that was it.  The little troll’s got us by the nads.

So we might as well Live Blog this bitch.

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I love you, Gramps.

You realize, of course, I mean that in the 19 sorta way, right?

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 11/03/09 at 10:07 PM ET

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Keeping your feet on the ground anchored in reality does not make you a pessimist.but, unreasonably celebrating a lucky win as if you won it all is rather juvenile. BITCHES. .

Pure Eeyore, you’ve captured his essence, Todd. 

Here is a conversation about the Red Wings I recently had with Eeyore:

Eeyore, have you noticed anything positive lately about Red Wings games?

We haven’t had an earthquake lately.

That’s a bit negative, wouldn’t you say?  I mean despite a poor start and recent injuries, the past couple of games have been solid for the team.  The kids have growing pains but the team is resilient.
I understand you feel they could be playing better, but aren’t the players and coaches going in the right direction, Eeyore?

When stuck in the river, it is best to dive and swim to the bank yourself before someone drops a large stone on your chest in an attempt to hoosh you there.

You really seem down on things.  Maybe it’s just me, but I am feeling pretty good about the team right now.  We should ask around, I am sure all Wings fans see things to fix, but I think most will have some optimism.

“I’m not asking anybody,” said Eeyore. “I’m just telling everybody. We can look for the North Pole, or we can play ‘Here we go gathering Nuts in May’ with the end part of an ants’ nest. It’s all the same to me.”

You don’t see anything positive about the team?  Even the free agents who are fitting into the system well?  You have to give Datsyuk and Zetterberg an ‘A’ for their play recently.

They walk to and fro saying ‘Ha Ha!’. But do they know anything about ‘A’? They don’t. It’s just three sticks to them.

What?

They haven’t got Brains, any of them, only grey fluff that’s blown into their heads by mistake, and they don’t Think.

I give up.  I gotta go.

Goodnight, bitches.  Thanks to Eeyore for his time.

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Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/03/09 at 10:16 PM ET

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Wait, was that juvenile?

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/03/09 at 10:20 PM ET

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Good game starting in Anaheim.
Ducks up 1-0 over Pissberg with 11 to go in the 1st.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 11/03/09 at 10:23 PM ET

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Just caught up.  That wasn’t as pretty as the Calgary game, but it was a hell of a lot of fun watching Osgood steal one. 

Leino still looks a bit lost out there without Flip.  Starting on the fourth line didn’t help him, nor did the two suicide passes thrown his way in the first, but he looks like he lacks confidence out there.  Gotta get that turned around.

Meech was actually good tonight.  He was more than just passable, the fucher was GOOD.

Chief, this:

Datsyuk is just a wizard.  that pass of the board to himself.  simple i guess, and I’m sure I’d see more of it if I watched any other hockey…but effortless.

Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC on 11/03/09 at 08:15 PM ET

I know Kate already covered it, but it’s worth mentioning again.  You don’t really see that kind of creativity watching a lot of other hockey.  Just imagine how creative and productive he’d be if he wasn’t getting ready to draw Social Security.  I know it was a stupidly simple play, but it was just so brilliant.  Made me giggle.

You bitches were hilarious tonight.  I wish I hadn’t missed this one. 

Good to see that Osrt, TDT, and AnimalDrew weren’t game wreckers tonight.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/03/09 at 10:38 PM ET

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As you were in Vermont, I have to ask… a quarter of WHAT?
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/03/09 at 07:20 PM ET

Had to skip out on the LB due kiddo’s baseball practice… but VERY WELL PLAYED SIR.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 11/03/09 at 10:39 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas's avatar

BTW, watching the Penguins/Ducks right now and the Ducks announcers have used two golf metaphors in the last few minutes.  They must know something about Anaheim’s chances this year that I don’t.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/03/09 at 10:40 PM ET

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gamewrecker my ass! not on North American soil.  Just got in…going to bed.  Night bitches.

Posted by Animal Drew from A Nightmare on Helm Street on 11/03/09 at 10:40 PM ET

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post coming to celebrate the juvinilleness of the 19.

Posted by moore00 from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 11/03/09 at 11:06 PM ET

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Keeping your feet on the ground anchored in reality does not make you a pessimist.

More true words are rarely spoken.  Reality is a bitch eh Gramps. My wife calls me negative alot, I chalk it up to being realistic.
I’m just as happy to see a couple of W’s in a row as any one, but the sloppy arse game tonight isn’t anything to hang your hat on.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 11/03/09 at 11:09 PM ET

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Meech was actually good tonight.  He was more than just passable, the fucher was GOOD.

Can I throw it out there that Lebda’s getting more flak than he deserves lately too then?

Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 11/03/09 at 11:11 PM ET

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BTW, watching the Penguins/Ducks right now and the Ducks announcers have used two golf metaphors in the last few minutes.  They must know something about Anaheim’s chances this year that I don’t.

Rosby gets no respect.  They are rattling Thid’s crib.

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Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/03/09 at 11:15 PM ET

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Can I throw it out there that Lebda’s getting more flak than he deserves lately too then?

You can but to me it makes you sound like an utter idiot.  I don’t know if you notice defensive play in our own zone, but Lebda, Stuart, and Ericsson have been absolutely horrible.  Particularly Lebda.  Particularly in clutch situations.

I used to think you were highly pessimistic.  I am beginning to think you are delusional.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/03/09 at 11:17 PM ET

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Pens score on the PP to take the lead.  Dammit.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/03/09 at 11:18 PM ET

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I know the reasons why, but I still don’t like TPH playing 27 minutes and change in November.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 11/03/09 at 11:19 PM ET

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Meech was actually good tonight.  He was more than just passable, the fucher was GOOD.
Can I throw it out there that Lebda’s getting more flak than he deserves lately too then?
Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 11/03/09 at 11:11 PM ET

Lebda, Stuart, and Kronner went out of their way to make Meech look good.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/03/09 at 11:47 PM ET

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looks like i missed an epic LB….was at the game, just realized i spent 15 bucks to get in, but 25 on snacks…haha Little Caesars in-arena markup FTW

Posted by Itrusteddrrahmani from Nyc by way of A2 on 11/03/09 at 11:48 PM ET

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The conservative play of Janik, taking the body instead of playing the puck.
Add Meech playing a very safe style.
I would send Ericsson to GR, Lebda on waivers and keep those guys in the line-up,
one in the second pairing and the other in the third.
Every team would pass on Lebda going down hoping to pick him up at half price when
he was re-called.  That would not happen if he was not re-called, and maybe Kenny could
maybe get that bag of pucks for him at the trade deadline.

Lids played more and better D in his 27 minutes than Lebda, Stuart, and Kronner all together.
No surprise, there is a reason we refer to him as TPH/

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/03/09 at 11:57 PM ET

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I’ll say it again, after one game of watching Janik, I’ll take him any day over Lebda.  I really liked what I saw from him tonight.  The fact that we pretty much didn’t hear his name mentioned is a positive thing, and what play I actually saw from him looked very safe and solid, UNLIKE Lebda and even Ericsson a lot.

Posted by stayouttamalibu from Temporarily in Tempe, AZ on 11/04/09 at 12:07 AM ET

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Called it over at NOHS!  Gave it 2:1 odds.

Hey grandpa, we can’t send big E down.  He’s gotta learn sometime.

He does have 8 points already too.

Posted by moore00 from Columbus, OH/Grand Rapids, MI on 11/04/09 at 12:17 AM ET

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  BTW, watching the Penguins/Ducks right now and the Ducks announcers have used two golf metaphors in the last few minutes.  They must know something about Anaheim’s chances this year that I don’t.

Rosby gets no respect.  They are rattling Thid’s crib.

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Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/03/09 at 11:15 PM ET

My god, does that photo seem hideously suggestive to anyone else? Rosby’s face looks like something you might have found at the bottom of my sock drawer when I was 15.

Posted by Bio on 11/04/09 at 12:20 AM ET

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7 playoff series wins in his 2 years as captain… Hart Trophy, Stanley Cup, etc. etc. etc.

Yeah, “Rosby”. HAHAHAHAHA

The Crosby jealousy here is pretty remarkable. Your obsession with Sid is pathetic, and that goes to 95% of Wings fans if this joke of a blog is good indication of your fanbase.

Posted by LGP8771 on 11/04/09 at 01:41 AM ET

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Damn, I come back from a 5-day Phish Haloween blow-out festival bash and check the highlights before I hit the sack after a 9 hour drive, and I’ll be damned if I didn’t see Dom Hasek in net tonight.

Posted by Hippy Dave from Portland by way of Detroit on 11/04/09 at 02:00 AM ET

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7 playoff series wins in his 2 years as captain… Hart Trophy, Stanley Cup, etc. etc. etc.

What does any of that have to do with being a captain?  He is a whining, diving, pathetic excuse for a “captain”.  Captain doesn’t mean winning things, it means being a leader and a role model.  Nobody anywhere doubts that he is a very good player, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t also a known diver and whiner.  What about last year when he hurt his foot and limped off the ice as the Caps were literally skating right by him into his defensive zone, only to score as a result of their un-impeded entry?  A good captain would never, ever leave the ice until any possible scoring chance on his goal was averted and he could cleanly make it out, aside from a super serious injury which was not the case.  So you have a picture of him blocking a shot, what do you want, a *#$%@& medal?

Posted by stayouttamalibu from Temporarily in Tempe, AZ on 11/04/09 at 03:28 AM ET

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i thought it was a good game tonight - with what looked like a preseason roster no less.

the team did what they had to do. everyone played ok, with a few exceptions.

quickly, regarding the post above saying Ericsson should be put down to GR and Lebda waved, Ericsson CAN’T be sent down without being waived and Lebda would absolutely be snatched up. Not saying I’ve been happy with his play, in fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing him traded. I felt more comfortable with Janek in there to be honest. Nothing fancy, but you got the sense he probably won’t give the game away being stupid. With Lebs, you’re just waiting for it to happen.

i have to agree with the comments about datsyuk’s simple, elegant, and gorgeous pass to himself off the boards. it was so silky smooth even the announcers didn’t really notice it. but it was pure datsyuk.

i also think babcock made one of the few flagrant errors i’ve seen him make… well, ever. i think williams has played the point pretty effectively so far, but can someone please tell me why he was out there with a two goal lead in the third period? Does having Stuart out there really decrease our chances of scoring so much that it’s worth the liability of having a forward on the back in that situation? Babs is usually good about that. You almost always see him sub a d-man for Williams (or Sammi last year) when it’s more important to not give up a shorty than it is to score another goal. I think we had a clear case of that and sure enough williams took that interference call negating our power play. it was a little thing and it didn’t cost us, but i have to think babs regretted the decision quickly.

last quick note cause it’s late - when someone (someone being sean thornton) elbows Norris in the head hard enough that it takes him out and clearly leaves him a bit woozy, someone on the damn team needs to step up on that. i’m not even saying the hit was dirty, in fact Lids clearly leaned down and put his head there at the last minute. And, i generally hate retaliation on clean checks… with this ONE exception. If Lidstrom gets hurt seriously we are DONE. my optimism is out the window. no playoffs no nothing. i think that is the one guy on the ice you disuade the other team from hitting… even legally. besides, thornton is kind of a goon and was trying to hit lids hard. it just bothers me that no one backs the captain immediately, even with some chin music. something. it was the only moment in the game where my heart skipped a beat.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 11/04/09 at 04:08 AM ET

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last quick note cause it’s late - when someone (someone being sean thornton) elbows Norris in the head hard enough that it takes him out and clearly leaves him a bit woozy, someone on the damn team needs to step up on that. i’m not even saying the hit was dirty, in fact Lids clearly leaned down and put his head there at the last minute. And, i generally hate retaliation on clean checks… with this ONE exception. If Lidstrom gets hurt seriously we are DONE. my optimism is out the window. no playoffs no nothing. i think that is the one guy on the ice you disuade the other team from hitting… even legally. besides, thornton is kind of a goon and was trying to hit lids hard. it just bothers me that no one backs the captain immediately, even with some chin music. something. it was the only moment in the game where my heart skipped a beat.

No one else was nearby, they may not have seen it.  And Nick wasn’t even affected that badly by it, he just stumbled.

Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 11/04/09 at 04:20 AM ET

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both of those things are true… someone should have still been leaning from one bench towards the other letting them know that won’t be tolerated. i realize the guy who’s job it is to do that is out with an eye injury… but…

i just don’t like to see it. period.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 11/04/09 at 05:45 AM ET

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It could be possible Nick went back to the bench, and when the team asked him about it, he told them to leave it alone, it was clean.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 11/04/09 at 07:31 AM ET

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It could be possible Nick went back to the bench, and when the team asked him about it, he told them to leave it alone, it was clean.

Posted by mrfluffy from Cincy on 11/04/09 at 07:31 AM ET

Also, retaliation often leads to penalties, and he probably didn’t want to risk giving Boston another PP just so he could see a Wing take a run at Blake Wheeler or whomever. Probably takes more than a hard hit to really upset TPH anyway.

Posted by Bio on 11/04/09 at 08:37 AM ET

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  Meech was actually good tonight.  He was more than just passable, the fucher was GOOD.
  Can I throw it out there that Lebda’s getting more flak than he deserves lately too then?
  Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 11/03/09 at 11:11 PM ET

Lebda, Stuart, and Kronner went out of their way to make Meech look good.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd from waiting for that"sarcasm” font on 11/03/09 at 11:47 PM ET

Sorry, I forgot the rule about not giving people credit where credit is due if at any point in the past you’ve said something negative about him.  Also, you were watching the wrong game.  Kronwall took the only two Wings penalties, but he was good.  He slowed Boston down a bunch by stepping up on people.  That extra half-second hesitation in your own zone on the breakout saps a lot of a team’s speed.  Stuart had a mediocre game, but he was by no means bad.  If you’re going to compare all of our defenders to Lidstrom every night, then we’re going to have five shitsacks playing on our blue line during any given hockey game.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 08:55 AM ET

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DET (13 gp, 6-4-3, 15 pts) is now 10th in Conf., 3rd in Central, 2 pts behind CHI.

3.08 G/G (12), 3.08 GA/G (23), 0.88 5-5 F/A (20), 22.4% PP (20), 74.5 PK% (25).

SJS (15 gp, 10-4-1, 21 pts) is 2nd in Conf., 1st in Pacific.  Winners of 5 consecutive.

3.40 (6), 2.47 (7), 1.39 5-5 F/A (4), 25.0 PP% (6), 85.0 PK% (6)

SJS #‘s look familiar, to say, um, the ‘07-‘08 Wings??

SJS at BJ’s tonight, then at the JLA on Thursday.

Tidbits from last nights tilt, from Zuidema:

Homer scored his “team-leading eighth goal of the season and third in the past four games.  Holmstrom had 14 goals in 53 games last season, his lowest total since the 2001-02 season.”

Datsyuk, who started the season with only two assists in his first five games, now has 10 points (two goals, eight assists) in his past six games. He also has recorded at least two points in four of the past six games.”

” . . . while the Bruins outshot the Red Wings 13-10 in the first period, Detroit held them to 16 shots in the final two periods.

Osgood did the rest in goal. He has stopped 49 of the 50 shots he has faced in the Red Wings’ past two games.

From the Bruin’s Blog:

The Bruins can cry into their beers all they want about missing Marc Savard and Milan Lucic. But the Wings were without Johan Franzen, Valtteri Filppula, Brian Rafalski, and Jonathan Ericsson tonight, and still managed to tuck two pucks behind Tim Thomas to claim the 2-0 win. . .

* Two special plays by two of the best centermen in the league led to both Detroit goals. Henrik Zetterberg roofed a shot over Thomas’s blocker, and Pavel Datsyuk threw a perfect blind pass to Tomas Holmstrom for the second goal.

From Fluto Shinzawa at the Boston Globe:  “. . . two shots during six minutes of power-play time.”

The Wings doubled their lead after Todd Bertuzzi sprung Datsyuk in the neutral zone. Datsyuk slipped behind Chara and careened toward the goal, pulling Thomas out of the crease. After Thomas had committed, Datsyuk flung a blind pass to Tomas Holmstrom, the trailer on the play. Holmstrom muscled off Bergeron’s backcheck and slammed home his team-leading eighth goal at 17:43 of the first.

“I just went with him, and he did what Datsyuk does,’’ said Thomas (24 saves). “If I don’t take him, he probably puts it in an open net. Then if you do take him, he makes a pass like that.’’

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/04/09 at 09:17 AM ET

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^^ Pav = magically delicious ^^

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/04/09 at 09:22 AM ET

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Sorry, I forgot the rule about not giving people credit where credit is due if at any point in the past you’ve said something negative about him.  Also, you were watching the wrong game.  Kronwall took the only two Wings penalties, but he was good.  He slowed Boston down a bunch by stepping up on people.  That extra half-second hesitation in your own zone on the breakout saps a lot of a team’s speed.  Stuart had a mediocre game, but he was by no means bad.  If you’re going to compare all of our defenders to Lidstrom every night,
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 08:55 AM ET

Stuart spent the first half of the game cruising in our end and out of position, often
in the deep slot while the forwards covered the crease and cleared the rebounds.
You seem to be counting the times when Kronner steps up, and breaks or slows the play, while I keep track of he times he steps up taking himself out of position and not breaking or slowing the play,  He left Oz with only 1 defenseman several times doing that, as he has been doing for 3 years.  Boston’s failure to capitalize does not make that smart play.  Lebda played like Lebda, if not for our forwards and some outanding goaltending, his substandard D would have been glaring.

I haven’t compared anyone’s play to Lidstroms in 7 yrs (my memory fades at 7), and get agitated when the PxP and colorman dare to.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/04/09 at 09:56 AM ET

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The Crosby jealousy here is pretty remarkable. Your obsession with Sid is pathetic, and that goes to 95% of Wings fans if this joke of a blog is good indication of your fanbase.

Don’t sell yourself short LGBT, I pretty sure every fan base outside of Pittsburgh thinks Rosby’s a tool.

Remember Real Captains own the house, fake captains rent a room

Posted by rock & rye from Cartersville, Ga on 11/04/09 at 10:17 AM ET

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You seem to be counting the times when Kronner steps up, and breaks or slows the play, while I keep track of he times he steps up taking himself out of position and not breaking or slowing the play, He left Oz with only 1 defenseman several times doing that, as he has been doing for 3 years.  Boston’s failure to capitalize does not make that smart play.

The fact that he succeeded in doing that way more times than he failed does make me think that it’s a smart play. 

Red Wings played safe hockey through the first bunch of games and their defense looked like shit doing it.  Kronwall barely ever stepped up.  I’ve been saying for some time that I’d rather make the goaltender bail us out of some mistakes caused by trying to make a play happen than mistakes caused because we weren’t being aggressive enough and let the play happen to us.  I thought the forwards did a fantastic job covering each time Kronwall stepped up and I’d like to see more of that.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 10:18 AM ET

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Back in the middle of the firestorm of doubt and panic, a voice of calm and reason.

I will say I thought the Wings played a decent game and many games are playing well for portions of them.  And they’re not catching many breaks.  things will turn around if they keep working hard which they are most of the time.
KISS, no turnover, playoff mentality hockey must infuse the team immediately, because momentary lapses have ended up in the back of our net.
Posted by RWBill from jabbing a six inch sewing needle into my eye. on 10/25/09 at 05:25 PM ET

3-0-1 7/8 pts since the post.  You’re Welcome.  Just don’t read my other posts that contradict this.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 11/04/09 at 10:25 AM ET

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Have you heard Janik talk?  He speaks pretty good English for a guy from a non-English speaking country… Massachusetts, I think.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 11/04/09 at 10:29 AM ET

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The fact that he succeeded in doing that way more times than he failed does make me think that it’s a smart play. 
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 10:18 AM ET

I still think you are not keeping track of the # of times he takes himself out of the play.  Hard body checks are great to watch, but when it comes to your D, only successful if your team winds up with the puck.  Hard body checks for intimidating only is a job for forwards.  The D has to come off a check, in stride and going in the right direction.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/04/09 at 10:36 AM ET

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True sign that things are going well for the Penguins?

It’s a Tuesday night following a Red Wings win, and members of the 19 are still talking about the Pens.

Posted by Bryan from Pittsburgh on 11/04/09 at 10:41 AM ET

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Just don’t read my other posts that contradict this.
Posted by RWBill

That should be assumed for any of the 19, Chief included.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/04/09 at 10:42 AM ET

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I still think you are not keeping track of the # of times he takes himself out of the play.  Hard body checks are great to watch, but when it comes to your D, only successful if your team winds up with the puck.  Hard body checks for intimidating only is a job for forwards.  The D has to come off a check, in stride and going in the right direction.


You’re absolutely right that I’m not keeping track.  I have a feeling that you aren’t either.  Based on absolutely no statistical knowledge to back up what I’m saying, I believe that Kronwall stepping up on people last night was successfull significantly more times than it was a failure and that it helped slow the Bruins through the neutral zone.  An overall success for a defenseman.  I don’t think Kronwall was as important in the win as was Osgood, but there are a dozen wings who fit that mold that also didn’t have shitty games last night.

If you’d like to keep track for both of us so you can prove which one of us is right, I’d be happy to let you.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 10:53 AM ET

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True sign that things are going well for the Penguins?

It’s a Tuesday night following a Red Wings win, and members of the 19 are still talking about the Pens.

Are you sure you don’t have that backward? Who’s on which blog now?

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 11/04/09 at 10:53 AM ET

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I haven’t compared anyone’s play to Lidstroms in 7 yrs (my memory fades at 7), and get agitated when the PxP and colorman dare to.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd from waiting for that"sarcasm” font on 11/04/09 at 09:56 AM ET

Lids played more and better D in his 27 minutes than Lebda, Stuart, and Kronner all together.
No surprise, there is a reason we refer to him as TPH/

Posted by HockeyTownTodd from waiting for that"sarcasm” font on 11/03/09 at 11:57 PM ET

Seven years or ten hours, Gramps?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 10:59 AM ET

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  Just don’t read my other posts that contradict this.
  Posted by RWBill

That should be assumed for any of the 19, Chief included.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd from waiting for that"sarcasm” font on 11/04/09 at 10:42 AM ET

Don’t assume too much.  Poor Gramps.  You get so upset when bloggers don’t live up to your lofty expectations.

Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 11/04/09 at 11:15 AM ET

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Seven years or ten hours, Gramps?

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMN

Posted by Triple Deke Tyler from Lansing on 11/04/09 at 11:43 AM ET

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Lids played more and better D in his 27 minutes than Lebda, Stuart, and Kronner all together.
No surprise, there is a reason we refer to him as TPH/
Posted by HockeyTownTodd from waiting for that"sarcasm” font on 11/03/09 at 11:57 PM ET
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Seven years or ten hours, Gramps?
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 10:59 AM ET

Are you confusing compliments with comparisons..?

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/04/09 at 11:47 AM ET

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Oh, you guys are so silly.

Are you confusing compliments with comparisons..?

Could you explain how that statement isn’t a comparison?  Cuz it seems like you’re complementing Lids’ play by comparing it to the other D. But English be weird.

Posted by Osrt on 11/04/09 at 11:57 AM ET

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Are you confusing compliments with comparisons..?

Posted by HockeyTownTodd from upset when blogs don�t live up to my expectations on 11/04/09 at 11:47 AM ET

...and here I thought getting a BA degree would never come in handy.

*sigh*

Compliments and comparisons aren’t mutually exclusive.  Also, the term “better” is the comparative case of the word “good”.  Comparative… as in “comparison”?

Now, I can officially say that the 19 have found the dumbest thing on the entire internet about which to argue and proudly proclaim that I was a key part in it.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/04/09 at 11:58 AM ET

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Hard body checks are great to watch, but when it comes to your D, only successful if your team winds up with the puck.  Hard body checks for intimidating only is a job for forwards

Mr. Konstantinov and Mr. Stevens would disagree, Todd.

I don’t know if you caught the broadcast last week where a mic’d player was hit by Kronner cutting across our blueline.  He goes to the bench and comments, “Note to self:  Don’t cut across the middle when Kronwall is on the ice.”

I would say his checking is having an effect on the opposition.  As I mentioned during the game, the forwards have been covering his place before the hit is delivered, and as long as they do so, I’m fine with Kronner stepping up.

And yes it will backfire.  Overall, however, the benefit exceeds the opporunity cost.

And Pen(i)s trolls… we were talking about the Pens last night as you and the *ucks were the only late game on.

A come from behind victory, and all you can do is troll here.  So sad.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/04/09 at 12:00 PM ET

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It appears we have all got too much time on our hands.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/04/09 at 12:26 PM ET

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