Come on 19.. Wait, Oh sh*t. I gotta go. My dad just came home and caught me jacking off to my mom in the shower, but remember the offer is still open. And when I turn 16, I’ll drive over and deliver the money myself.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:34 PM ET

Wait, is this two 8-2 losses on “Hit Me Mick” days? I think the gods have spoken. Tee-totalers from April on? I know it sounds drastic, but we got to take one for the team.

Posted by SharkBaiter from at play in the Labs of our Lord on 03/07/09 at 09:37 PM ET

I missed last week’s game against Nashville. Saw the score after it was over and thought ah well, long season, Nashville, blah blah blah. Saw the Chief’s post following it and thought he sounded a little over the top, watching this makes my ulcer bleed.

I don’t know WHAT to make of this team. Someone else here called them schizophrenic. They seemed tired, bored, and not willing to fight for much of anything. I hope it gets better soon.

Posted by Deuce from Brooklyn on 03/07/09 at 09:38 PM ET

SNAFU is what I call it.  Implosion.  Armageddon.  Thermonuclear detonation.

UNACCEPTABLE!

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/07/09 at 09:38 PM ET

The difference between you and me is that when the Wings win #12, I will be happy because I was right, not because I was pleasantly surprised.

I got a C-note that says they don’t get out of the 2nd round.  You want some action - put your money where your mouth is.  You or anyone else.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:39 PM ET

DId anyone catch the Devils Isles score? I can’t find it anywhere.

Posted by SharkBaiter from at play in the Labs of our Lord on 03/07/09 at 09:39 PM ET

Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 03/07/09 at 09:40 PM ET

If the Wings play team defensive in the playoffs the same way they played tonight, they WILL NOT get out of the 1st round.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/07/09 at 09:47 PM ET

I got a C-note that says they don�t get out of the 2nd round.  You want some action - put your money where your mouth is.  You or anyone else.

Suddenly, it’s quiet.  Here we go - a challenge to the “19”.  I’m officially calling all you out.  I’ve got a $100 that says the Wings don’t get out of the 2nd round.  Any takers?

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:47 PM ET

Can I have the time back the last two Saturday nights that I wasted watching the Wings play?  For some reason, I couldn’t abandon them…

BLECH.  Same problem I have been seeing most of the season, the Wings all bunch up on one side and don’t do the defensive coverage like we need.  The team is really missing Holmstrom and Hossa.  What a horrid night for Rafalski…really the whole team.  They should be ashamed to put on that kind of effort in front of the home crowd.

No, I skipped Don Cherry tonight.

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 03/07/09 at 09:48 PM ET

They sent Downey to do all the talking in the locker room.  “You just gotta take BullShit and turn it into manure and use it to grow from.”  Good radio interview.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/07/09 at 09:49 PM ET

Suddenly, it�s quiet.  Here we go - a challenge to the �19�.  I�m officially calling all you out.  I�ve got a $100 that says the Wings don�t get out of the 2nd round.  Any takers?

Straight up.  You couldn’t get those odds in Vegas.  Who’s gonna represent for the “19”?

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:50 PM ET

Straight up.  You couldn�t get those odds in Vegas.  Who�s gonna represent for the �19�?

Maybe you all can pool your money. 
Here’s some help:  $100 / 19 = $5.26 = one dinner at Mickie D’s.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:52 PM ET

Take some time to think about it.  The offer will be open until the start of the playoffs.  Consider the “19” called out.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:54 PM ET

Bitches.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:55 PM ET

I got a C-note that says they don’t get out of the 2nd round.  You want some action - put your money where your mouth is.  You or anyone else.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 09:39 PM ET

Betting against your team.  Real nice.  I don’t gamble, so I will have to decline.  Go ahead and impugn me for it if you will, but you’re not goading me into it.  I get my enjoyment watching the games, not wagering on them.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/07/09 at 09:57 PM ET

Jesus, even the trolls suck tonight.

Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 03/07/09 at 09:58 PM ET

So the new “#1 Team in all of Hockey and heir apparent” Devils also got spanked. Maybe it’s ionosphere tonight. Lurker? You right the code that makes the whole world sing, any ideas? At least Los Tiburones are losing tambien, but dammit it would be nice to make up ground and not just stay even. Oh well. I’m gonna drink this one off and hope that the additions of Hossa, Lilja, eVille, Helm, etc will/would change things.

P.s. Lurker, sucks about your mom. Hope it all works out. That cement garden can be a bitch.

Posted by SharkBaiter from at play in the Labs of our Lord on 03/07/09 at 10:03 PM ET

You want some action - put your money where your mouth

Umm, I don’t think that’s what you’re supposed to put in your mouth when your getting action. Go up to your Mom and Dad’s room and ask them to explain the birds and the bees again. Or you could ask Baroque. She is kind and very knowledgable on these types of issues. Oh and as an aside, you shouldn’t put money in your mouth at anytime. It is very dirty and you can get deseases and nasty little buggits.

Posted by Teenage Wasteland on 03/07/09 at 10:12 PM ET

I mean come on a whole C note? Ouch thats scary. How can you afford such extravagance? My head is spinning at the dizzy amounts of money you carelessly cast about. Are you a HIlton or a Jackson? Hey Lurker, post your name address and telephone number on this site and you might find some takers for your little bet. Hey Lurker, post your name, address and telephone number on this site and you might find some takers for your little bet. Although it would be foolish to toss around that kind of bank, but good luck.

Posted by Levi on 03/07/09 at 10:30 PM ET

However, I absolutely am judging you for betting against the Wings. The good news is that I know now that you�re not actually a Wings fan.  I�ve accused you of it before and you�ve denied it.  There�s no way you�ll convince me now after laying down that challenge.

You find it incapable that a person can be a fan yet believe (and stand behind that belief) that the team he is a fan of has no chance of winning the Cup?  Pal, I’m watching and rooting for them irrespective of if I get suckers to take my bet or not.  I’d be happy to be wrong and lose the $100.  And if I weren’t a fan, I’d be putting up a lot more than $100.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 10:40 PM ET

Yes…let me run out and make a bet with an anonymous loser. Epic idea. No, really.  You�ve repeatedly demonstrated nothing but maturity and I�m sure you�ll man-up if you lost a bet.

Please. You’re worried about me not paying a freakin $100?  I’ll tell you what - we both put up the C-note with IwoCPO or Kukla.  Let him distribute the money.  Surely we can trust them?

It was a nice attempt at an excuse.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 10:47 PM ET

So Lurker, let me get at least one part of your life straight.

You “lurk”/ invade a sports blog filled with fellow team fans and then vilify them at every opportunity. You then challenge them to liquify their adoration by challenging them to a bet.

If you genuinely feel you are better than us and/ or know more about the current Wings situation, then why visit this site? Doesn’t the pathetic pleasure you get from disturbing a few say more about your idiocy than it does about any of our own faults? That’s a rhetorical question.

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I’m sobering up in a southern hotel without air con; wtf? I’m suddenly a secret agent like Andrew. See you bitches on another side.

Posted by Osrt on 03/07/09 at 10:55 PM ET

That’s it, I’ve *#$%@& had it.

Uncle Mike needs to chew these motherfuckers out. No more days off, these guys should be in practice for 16 hours tomorrow. They go home for 8 hours’ sleep, then on Monday another 16 hours of practice. This is a *#$%@& disgrace.

How can THIS group, THIS *#$%@& group of players let something like this happen TWICE in one week?

If they think they can just “flip the switch” on April 15th, they’re gonna get swept in the first round. I want them to win every game form here on out. There is absolutely NO REASON why they can’t. I don’t want to see a loss again this season.

Posted by Alzy from Innisfail, Alberta, Canada on 03/07/09 at 10:56 PM ET

Oh crap. I don’t know how that one curse word made it through, I thought the censor would catch it. My apologies Chief!

Posted by Alzy from Innisfail, Alberta, Canada on 03/07/09 at 10:58 PM ET

Doesn�t the pathetic pleasure you get from disturbing a few say more about your idiocy than it does about any of our own faults? .

Did you enjoy the “online drinking game” with the rest of the 19?
Pathetic is in the eye of the beholder, pal.

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 11:00 PM ET

If they think they can just �flip the switch� on April 15th, they�re gonna get swept in the first round. I want them to win every game form here on out. There is absolutely NO REASON why they can�t. I don�t want to see a loss again this season.

It was a nice run last year.  They can’t do it every year. Give them a break.  They don’t have it this year - the drive, that is.  And let’s face it - the coaching staff has done a very poor job with Filpulla, Samuelsson, Kopecky, Osgood, Kronwall…

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 11:05 PM ET

Pathetic is in the eye of the beholder, pal.

Ok, but if you find this group’s activities pathetic, then why bother wasting your time and energy being here.

And no. I was drinking at a car show, but I wish I could have participated.

Posted by Osrt on 03/07/09 at 11:07 PM ET

Ok, but if you find this group�s activities pathetic, then why bother wasting your time and energy being here.

Because it’s healthier than taking up smoking…

Posted by Lurker on 03/07/09 at 11:23 PM ET

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Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 03/08/09 at 12:13 AM ET

I know I said I was done here and all, but I just gotta say…I wasn’t as bad as Lurker, right?

Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 03/08/09 at 12:57 AM ET

You want some action - put your money where your mouth is.

Umm…have you been reading what people are saying on this site?  A lot of them don’t think that we’ll get out of the first round.  So you honestly think you’re going to find any takers?  You must be dumber than Barry Trotz looks.

However, in the spirit of gamesmanship and fair play, and because I supported this team long through the Dead Things era, and I know what hope against despair feels like, yet that’s what LOYALTY to a team and tradition means, I accept your offer and will wager my $100 against your $100 (presumably that’s what you mean by the outdated and lame term ‘C-Note’).  However, it is NOT unconditional.  This must be handled by a recognized and agreed-upon neutral third-party broker.  I propose Paul Kukla, if he agrees.  The procedure will be thus:

1) Both parties will register on this site and supply full contact information to the broker, including home address and telephone number, and a time when they can be reached.  Additionally they will supply a password of their choosing.
2) The broker will telephone both parties and ask for the password, then verbally verify they are who they say they are and have agreed to the wager.
3) The broker will supply an address to which to send cash or alternately an account into which it can be transferred (Paypal, etc.).  The total will be $120 USD per party; $100 will cover the wager and the other $20 will cover disbursement of the pot to the winner (postage).  Any excess will be kept by the broker as a pittance for services rendered.  The broker will verify to all parties when the money arrives; should one party not deposit the money within four weeks of the deposit area being supplied, the money will be returned to the party that did live up to their end of the wager.
4) If/when the Detroit Red Wings exit the 2009 NHL Playoffs, the money will be dispensed in cash form by secure delivery to the winner of the bet.

Paul, how about it?

Oh, and guys—I know I’m feeding the troll.  But you know what?  This isn’t about some little lame-ass punk who likes to rile people up and bet against a team he purports to support.  It’s about those long winter nights at The Joe when it was not yet ten years old, when despite the presence of names like Duguay, Burr, Ogrodnick, Gallant…Yzerman…a loss was expected and eight goals against wasn’t that uncommon.  This is about times like those, and about an warm night in early June when all that suffering by the players and the fans was validated, when the ghosts and nicknames of the past were banished, and the Winged Wheel began a transition from a logo to a legend.  It’s about faith.  So let me feed the troll; I’m guessing he wasn’t around in the eighties and has grown up with a team he’s used to seeing win.  He hasn’t had it hard, and when he does, he finds it easier to be cynical and take out his frustrations on others than to understand that it’s always darkest just before the dawn.  If he wants to gamble against his own team, let him—it says a lot more about him than it does about the team.  Just let me show him, on behalf of the A2Y 19, that faith in your team and hope in their future is not something to be sneered at.

Oh, and Chief, that’s two games with eight goals against.  Perhaps Hit Me Mick should be retired?

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 03/08/09 at 03:47 AM ET

Please. You’re worried about me not paying a freakin $100?  I’ll tell you what - we both put up the C-note with IwoCPO or Kukla.  Let him distribute the money.  Surely we can trust them?

Don’t do it Paul or el Jefe!  It’s a trick!  He just wants to get you in the shower with his dad!

Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 03/08/09 at 07:11 AM ET

I know I said I was done here and all, but I just gotta say…I wasn’t as bad as Lurker, right?

I shouldn’t say anything since I don’t know what it is you did that earned such bile.  However, I’ll answer anyway and say that I can’t see how.

Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 03/08/09 at 07:13 AM ET

I haven’t been this depressed since the Olsen twins turned eighteen.  I guess it’s back to stalking my daughter’s friends on Facebook on Saturday nights.

Posted by O-Joe on 03/08/09 at 07:25 AM ET

Also, I’m pretty sure it’s blatantly illegal in the states to set up an international gambling ring.  The Wire Act and all.  Just sayin, but here’s a link: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1084.html

Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 03/08/09 at 07:51 AM ET

Hockey stick… $230.00

Hockey skates… $700.00

Spanking the Red Wings in Joe Louis Arena 8-2… Priceless!!!

Posted by Rick from Columbus on 03/08/09 at 08:53 AM ET

I know I said I was done here and all, but I just gotta say…I wasn’t as bad as Lurker, right?

Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 03/08/09 at 01:57 AM ET

Not by far, Tyler.

Spanking the Red Wings in Joe Louis Arena 8-2… Priceless!!!

Posted by Rick from Columbus on 03/08/09 at 09:53 AM ET

People still use that setup?

Just let me show him, on behalf of the A2Y 19, that faith in your team and hope in their future is not something to be sneered at.

Well-said, Andrew.

Because it’s healthier than taking up smoking…

Posted by Lurker on 03/08/09 at 12:23 AM ET

So you’re saying that, when you’re frustrated with the Red Wings (or whatever else), you come here to take it out on us and that makes you feel better?  Seriously, if nothing else than to satisfy curiosity, how old are you?  I’m 27.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/08/09 at 09:26 AM ET

Well played-said Andrew.
Cheers.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 03/08/09 at 09:30 AM ET

I know I said I was done here and all, but I just gotta say…I wasn’t as bad as Lurker, right?
Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 03/08/09 at 01:57 AM ET

I never doubt where YOUR heart is.

The Flamers are 100% cowards who only show up based on the score on any given night.  No guts, no character, just 12 year old cowardly bitches.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/08/09 at 10:12 AM ET

Wait, is this two 8-2 losses on “Hit Me Mick” days? I think the gods have spoken. Tee-totalers from April on? I know it sounds drastic, but we got to take one for the team.
Posted by SharkBaiter from the back of the short bus on 03/07/09 at 10:37 PM ET

The first HMM was a narrow victory over LAK, from what I remember, and something about infinite cats.  If you didn’t drink before becoming a Red Wings fan you probably do now.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/08/09 at 10:16 AM ET

I wonder if, even once in those 10,000 simulations, did the actual final score ever occur?

Oh, I like this, from the SportingNews, they have a “Projection” of the game from AccuScore (10,000 simulations):
Average Projected Score

Columbus Blue Jackets 2.5
Detroit Red Wings 3.3

Fantasy Spotlight G A PTS
Rick Nash 0.42 0.42 0.83
Pavel Datsyuk 0.35 0.67 1.02

Probability of a Fight: 40%

Posted by Jeff - - OklahomaWingNut from Wind-Swept-Plains on 03/07/09 at 05:20 PM

As my Dad used to say to my brother and I, taking us up on his knees, sharing his PBR and porn with us by the furnace in the basement of our house in Shiawassee County on cold February nights, “Boys, this is why they play the motherfuching games.”

Wise man, my Dad.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/08/09 at 10:28 AM ET

I guess it’s back to stalking my daughter’s friends on Facebook on Saturday nights.
Posted by O-Joe on 03/08/09 at 08:25 AM ET

I could swear you are quoting me there.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/08/09 at 10:29 AM ET

  Also, I�m pretty sure it�s blatantly illegal in the states to set up an international gambling ring.  The Wire Act and all.  Just sayin, but here�s a link: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1084.html 

Good point, professor.  I’m sure the feds are just itchin’ for a reason to shut us this site down…

  You must be dumber than Barry Trotz looks.
good one… especially when it precedes this:

Just let me show him, on behalf of the A2Y 19, that faith in your team and hope in their future is not something to be sneered at.
tuggin’ at my heartstings, pal…

  However, in the spirit of gamesmanship and fair play, and because I supported this team long through the Dead Things era, and I know what hope against despair feels like, yet that�s what LOYALTY to a team and tradition means, I accept your offer and will wager my $100 against your $100 (presumably that�s what you mean by the outdated and lame term �C-Note�).  However, it is NOT unconditional.  This must be handled by a recognized and agreed-upon neutral third-party broker.  I propose Paul Kukla, if he agrees.  The procedure will be thus:

Paul, how about it? 
====

This reminds me of the quip: “try cutting the Prozacs in half, pal…”  (sounds like Letterman in the day, but if not, my apologies…) 

Get a grip pal - it’s $100.  I Fedex cash to Paul or IWOCPO, you do same.  He confirms he received both and the bets on.  When I win, I tell him what to do with it.  You do the same if you win.

Or if anyone has concerns preventing this, then pick out a charity.  If I lose I’ll donate the $100 on the 19’s behalf.  I trust peer pressure enough to know that you’ll do the same if you lose.

However, I’ll give you kudos, Andrew, for manning up. All those who talk of SJ v Det in the WCF have run for the hills…

Oh, and Chief, that�s two games with eight goals against.  Perhaps Hit Me Mick should be retired?

How about retiring it b/c an ONLINE drinking game is for LOSERS?

Posted by Lurker on 03/08/09 at 10:31 AM ET

So, last night was not a bad dream. It was a friggin nightmare. I always consider March to be tune up month.  Assessment of the things that need to be tightened up. All around defensive play is priority #1. It has been a constant, nagging problem all season long. That in turn contributes to the sh!t goaltending and visa versa.

But, I’m not about to give up the ghost and talk sh!t about my team or any single player.What is that saying folks are so fond of? The regular season is meaningless.

I still do not see any team beating the Wings in a seven game series. Period.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/08/09 at 10:43 AM ET

Good point, professor.  I’m sure the feds are just itchin’ for a reason to shut us this site down…

Coming from someone bashing those watching online feeds for being illegal, your point is…...?

How about retiring it b/c an ONLINE drinking game is for LOSERS?

And yet you return here for what?
Better yet big spender…save that whole “C-note”, man up, head to Sweden to see the team you propose to be a fan & meet Andrew face to face to either pay up or collect.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 03/08/09 at 11:24 AM ET

Coming from someone bashing those watching online feeds for being illegal, your point is…...?
If you can’t see the distinction on your own, no amount of ‘splainin will get you there.

And yet you return here for what?
Certainly not to participate in ONLINE DRINKING GAMES!

Posted by Lurker on 03/08/09 at 11:36 AM ET

MO, the gutless cowardly child-troll has no idea what “man up” means.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/08/09 at 11:43 AM ET

Get a grip pal - it’s $100.

Hey, I trust the Chief if you do.  I’ll ignore your general jackassery because it’s not me you’re making look bad, but my only concern here was that as somebody who is avowedly disgusted with you, I wasn’t sure you’d trust him to say that my half of the money’s there.  Only problem is, if you geniunely ‘lurked’ on this site and not just hopped in to troll once in a while, you’d know that I can’t FedEx money as I’m overseas.  I’ll get mine in the mail if the Chief agrees.  Better yet…

head to Sweden to see the team you propose to be a fan & meet Andrew face to face to either pay up or collect.

I’ll be there.  Can you say the same?

Or if anyone has concerns preventing this, then pick out a charity.  If I lose I’ll donate the $100 on the 19’s behalf.  I trust peer pressure enough to know that you’ll do the same if you lose.

Smartest thing you’ve said the entire time you’ve been here, and the one I like the most.  My inclination is to suggest whatever charities received money from Jiri Fischer’s “Shocks and Saves” game, but I’m open to other suggestions.  Anyone?

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 03/08/09 at 11:47 AM ET

you�d know that I can�t FedEx money as I�m overseas.  I�ll get mine in the mail if the Chief agrees.
It should be clear by now that I’m not here to network.

I�ll be there.  Can you say the same?
No - I guess that makes you more of a fan than I am. Congratulations. 

Smartest thing you�ve said the entire time you�ve been here, and the one I like the most. 
I’m glad you think so.  Let’s do this then - best solution.  I trust that the members here will find a worthy cause, and will go along with that choice.

Regarding you being overseas - I’m guessing that you serve in the military.  If not, my apologies.  If so, maybe you can answer a dew questions for me - I’ve always wondered - why did Pat Tillman’s fellow Army Rangers kill him?  And why is the Army covering it up?  Thanks in advance for any insights you (or anyone else) can offer.

Posted by Lurker on 03/08/09 at 12:04 PM ET