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Arrogant? Hell Yes. Still. Always.
by IwoCPO on 11/01/09 at 06:53 AM ET
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Just when you thought Pittsburgh fans and media had settled into comfortable acceptance that the Pens are actually Stanley Cup champs? In rides another idiot to prove that this particular community of “fans” and media has no concept how to deal with success.
Nill added that “it goes on and on” with the Red Wings, but he’s wrong. History suggest it just ends one day for dynasties — often when they least expect it.
After all, it takes a lot of arrogance to believe that what goes up doesn’t eventually come down.
Paul posted a lot more at the main page, but it really boils down to that closing passage.
Cup champs. Best record in the league. Living in a city that has had more pro sports success than any other the last two years…and still their inferiority complex is so severe that they can’t stop focusing on the Wings. It’s what we’ve said it would be and it’s awesome.
I guess, though, when you have a “captain” like this….
So in a crucial point in the game, Zidlicky took Crosby off the ice for seven minutes. In the third, Brent Burns got away with snapping Crosby’s stick in half (Crosby was called for the same thing earlier in the game on Mikko Koivu). Crosby was furious there was no call, threw up his arms and got a new stick with play stopped. Then, he kept on yelling at the ref after the linesman blew his whistle. So on a PP, the linesman dropped the puck and the Wild cleared the zone. And then Crosby was upset at that.
Antics like this are the reason why many people say Crosby doesn’t get superstar calls. You can’t be throwing up your arms and screaming at refs all game long. I respect the tremendous stardom and competitiveness all the time from Crosby. He’s a phenomenal player, but he definitely lost his cool tonight.
What’s amazing is Crosby played 23 minutes, 46 seconds and took nine penalty minutes, meaning he spent less than half the game on the Pittsburgh bench.
No one here has ever doubted Rosby’s ability. He’s a phenomenal talent, an amazing player. He’s also a little bitch. A whiner who disgraces the C worn by actual leaders.
Back to Red Wing arrogance. Yes. It is a staple of this organ-I-zation and it’s deserved. Nobody, not a single franchise anywhere, has had the level of sustained superior performance the Wings have displayed for nearly twenty consecutive years. That’s a dynasty. Put that in quotes and throw it back at me if you want, even if you claim to be a Wing fan. It is what it is. A dynasty.
And you’re damn right…we, the fans, are just as arrogant. Don’t like it? Too bad. Don’t want to hear about it? It’s not a law to read this blog or any other Wing blog.
Just how arrogant? Arrogant enough to scoff at the legions of bitter Wing haters who point to our current circumstance and predict the Wings will actually miss the playoffs. We’re stockpiling that stuff. Stowing it away.
The Wings are 5-4-3, 11th in the conference, nine points behind Denver. Are we nervous? Yes. But more because it’s just an unusual scenario and we’re not eager to accept it. Want to know why the realists among us are sitting back, silently watching the riots? Because the Wings have Ken Holland and Jim Nill and Mike Babcock and Steve Yzerman. Even Jimmy Devellano. The greatest collection of hockey minds anywhere.
But Fil’s down, Franzen’s out..we’ve lost 130 goals. Osgood’s inconsistent, the defense is leaky, Brad McCrimmon is still employed.
Don’t care. The ship will be righted. Take a look at last night and tell me. Was that a fluke or was that the way this team can, and eventually will, consistently play.
Arrogance is not stumbled upon. It doesn’t take you by surprise and it’s not misguided. It’s earned and it’s healthy and it’s ours.
Again, as we said yesterday, climb off if you want. Seek another wagon. Those who stay on this one will be rewarded, as usual.
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and my favourite : Homer
written off by the entire bandwagon and most of the true
Posted by Edillac from jesenice,europe on 11/01/09 at 07:57 AM ET
Dressed up as a butt pirate? Hell yes you did.
Posted by Sig from DC on 11/01/09 at 08:14 AM ET
You’re confused. The Butt Pirates are Pittsburgh’s baseball team.
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 11/01/09 at 08:18 AM ET
Even before he wrote this article, I knew you could rank Rossi on the same level of toolbag as Adrian Dater.
Posted by drimo from Cincinnati, OH on 11/01/09 at 08:40 AM ET
Good lord, the trolls jealously wait around for you to post something about Shitsburgh. That’s right, I dumped on the city.
Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 11/01/09 at 08:48 AM ET
Yep, been describing myself as an “arrogant and spoiled Red Wings fan” for several years at this point; nothing new here, status quo . . . .
Posted by Trish from PalmBeachCntyFL on 11/01/09 at 09:16 AM ET
All the attention was on Rosby last night, due to the absence of the Pens best player in Malkin, and that whiny little POS couldn’t handle it, he snapped.
Why did such a pussy get into the sport of hockey? You can tell he spent 90% of his career never getting hit. Now, it’s all too much for poor Cindy, and he isn’t going to take it anymore.
The NHL has made a lot of mistakes over the years; but to think that the petulant little crybaby Rosby would be the ‘new face’ of the NHL is about the dumbest thing they’ve ever done.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 11/01/09 at 09:21 AM ET
The biggest thing I learned from this whiny screed is that 4 cups in 20 years qualifies as a dynasty.
Which means that the Penguins are one Cup away from Dynasty status.
Sweet!
Posted by Sidney>Zetterberg from In your heads on 11/01/09 at 09:34 AM ET
The biggest thing I learned from this whiny screed is that 4 cups in 20 years qualifies as a dynasty.
Which means that the Penguins are one Cup away from Dynasty status.
Sweet!
Posted by Sidney>Zetterberg from In your heads on 11/01/09 at 09:34 AM ET
Nice math.
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 11/01/09 at 09:39 AM ET
Well Russo has it right and that is one of the reasons why I will always go with Ovechkin over Crosby. You have a “C” on your sweater, shut up and act like it.
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 11/01/09 at 09:49 AM ET
You know what I enjoy? A blog that makes fun of a guy for
Talking about the wings and that’s from pittsburgh.
You call him nd idiot and tell him to get off the wings.
But now your making posts about the Pens? I see it all makes sense
Posted by Dave from pittsburgh on 11/01/09 at 09:50 AM ET
Should I go slower for you so you can keep up?
1991
1992
2008
One more cup before 2011 and it’s 4 cups in 20 years.
Dynasty!
Posted by Sidney>Zetterberg from In your heads on 11/01/09 at 09:52 AM ET
1997
1998
2002
2008
That’s 4 Cups in 11 years not counting the lock-out which would be 4 in 10 yrs . . .
Dynasty . . . .
Posted by Trish from PalmBeachCntyFL on 11/01/09 at 09:55 AM ET
Well Russo has it right and that is one of the reasons why I will always go with Ovechkin over Crosby. You have a “C” on your sweater, shut up and act like it.
This statement was all I needed to hear about a person’s hockey knowledge. You’re really going to take a player who plays inconsistent at best on defense? Who when down and out, doesn’t really care about the team and starts worrying about his stats? Please. It’s exactly why Crosby has got the cup before him. Had Ovie backchecked and played hockey the right way in the play-offs instead of head hunting and worrying about his. They would have made it further.
Detroit’s very good, even when they are down there good, but you guys can’t talk crap about Pittsburgh because like making fun of the guy talking crap about your city. it’s time to get off of it, this year is this year.
Posted by Dave from Pittsburgh on 11/01/09 at 10:03 AM ET
That’s 4 Cups in 11 years not counting the lock-out which would be 4 in 10 yrs . . .
Dynasty . . . .
Posted by Trish from PalmBeachCntyFL on 11/01/09 at 09:55 AM ET
And there’s the math I was speaking of. Thanks Trish.
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 11/01/09 at 10:05 AM ET
They apparently don’t teach anything about punctuation in Shitsburgh anymore.
1991
1992
2008
Wait…what?
Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 11/01/09 at 10:09 AM ET
If I’m not mistaken, the Wings have made the playoffs for eighteen (18) consecutive seasons.
In their 18 year run, they have: won 4 Cups (in the past 12 years), made it to the SCF in two seasons, and the CF in two seasons.
The Wings rank sixth all-time in the NHL for consecutive playoff appearances:
29 Boston Bruins (1968-96)
28 Chicago Blackhawks (1970-97)
24 Montreal Canadiens (1971-94)
23 St. Louis Blues (1980-2002)
21 Montreal Canadiens (1949-69)
18 Detroit Red Wings (1991-2009)
The Wings have won the Stanley Cup 11 times, no other non-Canadian team has won it more than 5 times:
Montreal Canadiens (24*)
1915-16*; 1923-24; 1929-30; 1930-31; 1943-44; 1945-46; 1952-53; 1955-56; 1956-57; 1957-58; 1958-59; 1959-60; 1964-65; 1965-66; 1967-68; 1968-69; 1970-71; 1972-73; 1975-76; 1976-77; 1977-78; 1978-79; 1985-86; 1992-93.
Toronto Maple Leafs (13)
1917-18; 1921-22; 1931-32; 1941-42; 1944-45; 1946-47; 1947-48; 1948-49; 1950-51; 1961-62; 1962-63; 1963-64; 1966-67.
Detroit Red Wings (11)
1935-36; 1936-37; 1942-43; 1949-50; 1951-52; 1953-54; 1954-55; 1996-97; 1997-98; 2001-02; 2007-08.
Boston Bruins (5)
1928-29; 1938-39; 1940-41; 1969-70; 1971-72.
Edmonton Oilers (5)
1983-84; 1984-85; 1986-87; 1987-88; 1989-90.
Arrogant, maybe? Confident, most definitely.
Are we nervous? Hell yes, full of anxiety.
Last year, the Wings were schizophrenic, but managed to win most of the time. As Holland said the other day, they could play 45 mins and win, on talent.
This year, not so much, they have lost too much scoring, and the Wings “D” , on most nights is about as solid as a sieve.
Last nights game was a glimmer of potential, what reward can be had for a 60 min effort.
You don’t earn the right to be arrogant/haughty/confident by what you have done in a season or two. You may be good as compared to some, but can you boast a demonstrated record of consistent, sustained excellence.
Dynasties are measured in decades. The aura that goes with that success isn’t diminished in 10 games. But questions/issues are bound to arise.
Here is one: Why is Brad McCrimmon still employed?
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/01/09 at 10:18 AM ET
Crosby did complain after the no call on the broken stick, but any player would’ve been frustrated after they had just been called for the same thing on the previous shift. If that was Mike Richards, who complains/whines/cries more than Crosby, he would’ve been noted by Russo for his fiery leadership.
Also, who cares if Crosby got in a fight? He had just taken a borderline slew-foot, and tried to do something about it. If that were Jarome Iginla, he would’ve been noted for fighting someone to fire up his team.
I don’t know why Russo’s panties are in a bunch. Crosby complained one time, and had a mediocre fight with a mediocre player. Who cares?
Posted by Link_Gaetz on 11/01/09 at 10:21 AM ET
Damn, I need to learn to preview:
[ Am I }nervous? Hell yes, full of anxiety.
Fixed.
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/01/09 at 10:21 AM ET
You know what I enjoy? A blog that makes fun of a guy for
Talking about the wings and that’s from pittsburgh.
You call him nd idiot and tell him to get off the wings.
But now your making posts about the Pens? I see it all makes sense
Random capitalization? Check.
Incomprehensible misspellings? Check.
Unable to distinguish between “your” and “you’re”? Check.
The “from pittsburgh” is entirely superfluous.
Posted by Howard from GR on 11/01/09 at 10:32 AM ET
That’s 4 Cups in 11 years not counting the lock-out which would be 4 in 10 yrs . . .
Dynasty . . . .
Posted by Trish from PalmBeachCntyFL on 11/01/09 at 09:55 AM ET
And there’s the math I was speaking of. Thanks Trish.
You said 20 years first, genius.
have displayed for nearly twenty consecutive years.
If you meant 11, you should have said 11.
They apparently don’t teach anything about punctuation in Shitsburgh anymore.
1991
1992
2008Wait…what?
What the f#ck are you talking about moron? Shitsburgh? Are you 12 years old?
Posted by Sidney>Zetterberg from In your heads on 11/01/09 at 10:32 AM ET
You know what I enjoy? A blog that makes fun of a guy for
Talking about the wings and that’s from pittsburgh.
You call him nd idiot and tell him to get off the wings.
But now your making posts about the Pens? I see it all makes senseRandom capitalization? Check.
Incomprehensible misspellings? Check.
Unable to distinguish between “your” and “you’re”? Check.The “from pittsburgh” is entirely superfluous.
Wow, grammar. That’s all Detroit has left is grammar?
Sad, really sad.
Pikers.
Posted by Sidney>Zetterberg from In your heads on 11/01/09 at 10:34 AM ET
This statement was all I needed to hear about a person’s hockey knowledge. You’re really going to take a player who plays inconsistent at best on defense? Who when down and out, doesn’t really care about the team and starts worrying about his stats? Please. It’s exactly why Crosby has got the cup before him. Had Ovie backchecked and played hockey the right way in the play-offs instead of head hunting and worrying about his. They would have made it further.
And this statement was all I needed to hear about your hockey knowledge.
I don’t actually like Ovechkin. I agree that he’s not as complete a player as some other superstar forwards because he doesn’t try to play defense. I agree that he crosses the line between playing hard and playing dirty too often. But for you to say that he doesn’t care about his team? Snap off, game over, good night. Nobody in their right mind puts a series loss all on one player like you just did.
Waaaah, if Ovechkin backchecked they would have beaten the Penguins.
For the record, I’d take Crosby over Ovechkin to wear the Winged wheel because I think being in the Organ-I-zation would really help cure Crosby of his occasional outbursts of petulance. I’m not convinced you can teach Ovie to play defense, but you can teach Crosby to shut the fuch up and play hockey when he needs to. Ovechkin has more talent than Crosby; Crosby would be a better fit for the Detroit system and, in Detroit, the whole is definitely greater than the sum of its parts.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/01/09 at 10:44 AM ET
Simmer down Sidney.
I believe MarkK was referring to your erroreous list of dates(1991, 1992, 2008).
The members of this blog know exactly which team won the Cup in 2008 and it wasn’t the team you are apparently a fan of . . .
Posted by Trish from PalmBeachCntyFL on 11/01/09 at 11:06 AM ET
Crosby has every right to go after the refs when he feels slighted, but…He tends to go after the refs every time he’s dinged, nicked, or otherwise impeded. All the game’s great players go after the refs from time to time, but they learn how to pick their spots, because constant badgering gets you nowhere, fast. I hope Crosby will get the spot-picking down sooner than later, because it will erase a lot of the criticism he receives.
It’s that simple. Pick your spots. Lobby at a point in the game when the refs are likely to give you an even-up, lobby when you or a teammate got the snot kicked out of them. Not when you got slashed or the linesman hurried up a faceoff a hundred and sixty feet from your goal. That’s all he’s got to do—learn when to speak up and learn when to growl and just play.
Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 11/01/09 at 11:11 AM ET
I really don’t understand Rossi’s motivation for writing that article….
If that had come from Pensblog, who “specialize” in that type of smack-talking post, I’d understand…. And I’m sure Wings fans would understand it much more as well….
But Rossi had nothing to gain from writing an article whose only intent was to talk shit…. There are plenty of interesting Penguins subjects to write about….
And it’s a little surprising, seeing as Rossi’s recent articles are little more than name-dropping, like how he had a funny moment with Mario in the locker room, or today’s column, where he brags about his relationship during Petr Sykora’s time in Pittsburgh….
Maybe next week he’ll start calling his readers “kiddies” like he did last season, or something condescending like that…
But what do I know, I’m just a peon blogger, not that he nor his paper ever acknowledges any of them… Just part of the reason the Tribune-Review is the Junior Varsity newspaper in town….
Just ticks me off, one of these days we’ll get past the point where every KK article involving either the Wings or Pens turns into the same yapping back and forth….
Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 11/01/09 at 11:18 AM ET
George James Malik,
I completely agree with what you’re saying. Crosby does let his competetive nature get the best of him sometimes. However, he has really toned down the complaining, especially this season. He was picked apart for diving his rookie year, and that is pretty much all but gone (What NHL player doesn’t draw the occasional penalty). The complaining is still there, but he is learning when to pick his spots. Last night was an example of him letting his frustration get the best of him.
Even if he does learn to shut his yap, he is still going to have this reputation from people who read what another team’s blogger says and base their opinions off of that. It is easy to not watch a game, then see what Mike Russo says in a blog and go from there.
Watch a few Penguin games this year, and you will notice that the diving he was ripped apart for is all but gone, and the complaining is certainly toned down. I just hope he keeps it up.
Now….all we need to do is get him to stop taking the slashing penalties out of frustration…
Posted by Link_Gaetz on 11/01/09 at 11:23 AM ET
Tony,
Nobody in Pittsburgh takes what Rob Rossi says seriously. He is an absolute embarrassment to journalism.
Actually, does anyone even read the Trib anymore?
Anything Rob Rossi says should be immediately dismissed.
Posted by Link_Gaetz on 11/01/09 at 11:25 AM ET
Not that it excuses him from missing the faceoff, but let’s not forget that the slash on Crosby’s stick was during a powerplay and should’ve resulted in a 5-on-3 for a significant period of time….
Would’ve been nice in a tight game against a good goalie….
Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 11/01/09 at 11:26 AM ET
@Link - I wasn’t going to put it that bluntly….
But since you did…. 
Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 11/01/09 at 11:27 AM ET
You’re almost there, Sid. You’re just having a hard time with some of the words.
You said 20 years first, genius.
have displayed for nearly twenty consecutive years.
Nope, seem he said nearly twenty. See “nearly” means almost, and “twenty” means more than two years of continued success. Now, you combine those phrases with the rest of the sentence and what you get is that Detroit has made the playoffs 18 seasons in a row. Now, do you see how eighteen is “nearly twenty”? Not quite twenty, but almost.
And in that “nearly twenty” years, there have been four cups, two more SCFs and a couple more CFs.
Compare and contrast that to Pittsburgh’s 2 cups, followed by meiocrity, followed by the team almost moving because people didn’t want to come to watch the mediocrity, followed by three straight high lottery picks and THEN followed by two years (please not that TWO is not “nearly twenty”. It’s “nearly three”.) of success.
“Nearly twenty years” of continued success? That means ZERO lottery picks, never mind finishing low enough that you could actually get the #1 pick two years out of three.
See how reading comprehension can be useful?
Posted by Garth on 11/01/09 at 11:33 AM ET
And in that “nearly twenty” years, there have been four cups, two more SCFs and a couple more CFs.
Sorry, where I come from 2nd place is first loser. You can revel in all those losses to the Avalanche and the loss to the Penguins last year all you want.
Steelers fans would never brag about AFC Championship losses or playoff appearances.
The only thing that matters is rings
And yes, I screwed up 2008/2009 due to the way seasons run through two different years and this being 2009. Laziness on my part.
We all know who won in 2008-2009.
Posted by Sidney>Zetterberg from In your heads on 11/01/09 at 11:57 AM ET
Rob Rossi is a fat joke. People in Pittsburgh that take hockey seriously know that.
Posted by Clay from Pittsburgh on 11/01/09 at 11:58 AM ET
Sorry, where I come from 2nd place is first loser. You can revel in all those losses to the Avalanche and the loss to the Penguins last year all you want.
Steelers fans would never brag about AFC Championship losses or playoff appearances.
The only thing that matters is rings
That’s by far the dumbest logic anybody has used to back up an argument I’ve read on this site, ever. To say that the Penguins are nearly equal to the Red Wings in success over the last twenty years based solely on championships won is so ridiculously stupid that I suggest your brain be given to science so they can figure out exactly how you managed to work a computer in the first place.
Please tell me that this is not seriously your basis for argument.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/01/09 at 12:10 PM ET
Ten Things the Four Habs Fans Hate about the Pittsburgh Penguins, here.
(As with their entire blog, the FHF language is NSFW.)
Their summary:
So, to sum up: The Pens spend years struggling, the fans stay away, the team almost folds or contracts, the fans rally for a few years and fill the building when the high draft picks lead them to glory. Rinse. Repeat. Congratulations, you bunch of front-running *#$%@&, you’re the Florida Marlins of hockey!
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 11/01/09 at 01:18 PM ET
The only thing that matters is rings
Ok, so the Pens were miserable failures between 92 and 2009 while the Wings won four cups in that span.
We’re still superior.
Thanks for helping our argument.
Posted by Garth on 11/01/09 at 01:54 PM ET
The Pens spend years struggling, the fans stay away, the team almost folds or contracts, the fans rally for a few years and fill the building when the high draft picks lead them to glory. Rinse. Repeat. Congratulations, you bunch of front-running *#$%@&, you’re the Florida Marlins of hockey!
Damn!!! A work of art!!!!!
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 11/01/09 at 02:36 PM ET
Just ticks me off, one of these days we’ll get past the point where every KK article involving either the Wings or Pens turns into the same yapping back and forth….
Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 11/01/09 at 11:18 AM ET
Geesus, Tony, the hypocrisy in that line is mind-boggling.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 11/01/09 at 02:38 PM ET
Come on now Winger, acknowledge I do very little smack talking….
Plus, I commented against the columnist from a Pittsburgh paper talkin’ smack to the Wings….
How can that be hypocritical ??
Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 11/01/09 at 02:48 PM ET
Nice. I can reset my how many Tuesdays until A2Y makes a Penguins-related post back to zero. Seems like that number never gets above 2 or so.
Posted by Standard A2Y Fare on 11/01/09 at 02:58 PM ET
Geesus, Tony, the hypocrisy in that line is mind-boggling.
Tony has been a good Pens poster, unlike most Pens bloggers, Red Winger. Don’t confuse him with other Penguin fans which drool around these parts.
The reason Tony doesn’t get the hits that Pensblog does is his commentary is well thought out and well written. And that just doesn’t fly with adolescents who discovered hockey after the lockout.
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 11/01/09 at 03:00 PM ET
Despite the doom and gloom, caused by alot of poor play by the Winged Wheel, they aren’t that far removed from the ‘Hawks for the Division lead:
Games, W L OTL PTS, GF GA
Chicago 13 8 4 1 17 39 31
Columbus 12 6 5 1 13 37 42
Detroit 12 5 4 3 13 38 42
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/01/09 at 04:21 PM ET
The reason Tony doesn’t get the hits that Pensblog does is his commentary is well thought out and well written. And that just doesn’t fly with adolescents who discovered hockey after the lockout.
Or those with fully functioning opposable thumbs, either.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 11/01/09 at 04:32 PM ET
The reason Tony doesn’t get the hits that Pensblog does is his commentary is well thought out and well written.
Voox, you’re absolutely 100% correct. Only the idiotic blogs get the high traffic.
Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 11/01/09 at 05:21 PM ET
If I were Rosby I would complain too, it must suck to have the no looking at or touching you rule lifted…...however briefly
Posted by Davo on 11/01/09 at 05:34 PM ET
Well Russo has it right and that is one of the reasons why I will always go with Ovechkin over Crosby. You have a “C” on your sweater, shut up and act like it.
This statement was all I needed to hear about a person’s hockey knowledge. You’re really going to take a player who plays inconsistent at best on defense? Who when down and out, doesn’t really care about the team and starts worrying about his stats? Please. It’s exactly why Crosby has got the cup before him. Had Ovie backchecked and played hockey the right way in the play-offs instead of head hunting and worrying about his. They would have made it further.
Detroit’s very good, even when they are down there good, but you guys can’t talk crap about Pittsburgh because like making fun of the guy talking crap about your city. it’s time to get off of it, this year is this year.
Posted by Dave from Pittsburgh on 11/01/09 at 10:03 AM ET
Dave, I was merely stating my opinion. I love Alex and I’ve made that well known on this blog. I think you are very wrong when you say he doesn’t care about his team. Again, it is my opinion. I get much more pleasure out of watching Alex play than Sid and that’s just how I [bfeel]. No need to be insulting about my hockey knowledge which I will gladly go toe to toe with you on any time.
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 11/01/09 at 07:22 PM ET
You can’t be throwing up your arms and screaming at refs all game long.
Pointing out one reference isn’t all game long.
No one here has ever doubted Crosby’s ability. He’s a phenomenal talent, an amazing player. He’s also a little bitch. A whiner who disgraces the C worn by actual leaders
Yet he Captained the Pens to the ‘09 Cup.So, I think you just pointed out how the C is the most overrated thing in sports. Which means all the so-called “Great Captains” in the past were over-rated as far as their leadership is concerned. And most of the Championship teams probably would have won the Cup anyway. Even Detroit, in ‘97,‘98 & ‘02. So much for Captains. I agree.
Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 11/01/09 at 08:02 PM ET
Yet he Captained the Pens to the ‘09 Cup.So, I think you just pointed out how the C is the most overrated thing in sports. Which means all the so-called “Great Captains” in the past were over-rated as far as their leadership is concerned. And most of the Championship teams probably would have won the Cup anyway. Even Detroit, in ‘97,’98 & ‘02. So much for Captains. I agree.
If you want people to stop thinking you’re an idiot, you’re going to have to do a better job of conveying when you’re being glib. That’s what the wink emoticon is for.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 11/01/09 at 08:42 PM ET
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