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by IwoCPO on 10/26/07 at 12:05 PM ET
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Draper extends. Grigorenko’s on the verge of deportation. Markov may beat him home by a few days. Hasek’s hip is “irritating” him. Verizon Fios continues to suck and suck hard. Halloween’s around the corner, but apparently we can’t call it Halloween anymore.
All those things are making my brain fuzzy today. Thankfully, with the exception of HALLOWEEN, A2Y readers have been eloquently chiming in. If you’ve missed their comments (and those from other blogs), I’ll be your huckleberry and give them the prominence they deserve.
Ready? Nifty
Draper. The ultimate Wing. The team guy. The character guy. A Wing to the core. Re-signed for three more, essentially guaranteeing he ends his career in red and white. Comments to this post brought up an interesting topic.
Cementslinger
I would have thought Drapes would be worth more than what he signed for considering what everybody else is getting. Good for the Wings, good for Draper - if he got what he wanted. It’s too bad that his dedication to the Wings won’t earn him a retired 33.
SRT
Maybe not a retired number but certainly positions within the organ-i-zation. I didn’t know Fisher was scouting for us but that was great to hear that they were taking care of him. I would expect the same or better for Draper, especially given his leadership/mentoring skills.
Reaction: Retire #33. Retire #33. Hmmm. Three (hopefully at least) Cups. A Selke. And the defensive conscience of this team for more ten years. Even more than Lidstrom, it is Draper who has truly embraced the concept of stifling the opposition’s top line. And he’s done it so consistently. If the Red Wings have a reputation as being a work-man like team, and I’m not sure they do or even deserve that title, it would be due to Draper. But is that enough? No. The next one will be #5. Will there be discussion? Probably not.
This is not Denver, not a team that has severed ties with its heritage (hey Paul Stastny, how do you like playing for a team that has ignored your dad and uncles?) and disgraced itself by retiring a number of a player who rented a Cup then hit the road. Kris Draper will go down as a great Wing, one of the best of his generation. But #33 will be worn again after he leaves.
SRT’s point about the Wings taking care of their own. It’s justified and it underscores why players will always want to play for Mike Ilitch.
More proof?
Nathan
Okay, so do the Wings now officially have the best “bargain” roster in the league?
- Draper
- Zetterberg
- Homer
- Cleary
- Franzen
- Filppula
- and yes… Datsyuk (just look what guys got last offseason and tell me he isn’t a bargain)
If there were any Transvestite Dive Fans still hanging around, I’d point to that as evidence of Ken Holland’s brilliance. What team can claim paying 16 million for 7 players of that ability? And Draper’s salary is going down. It’s unbelievable.
If Igor Grigorenko’s name were Matt Ellis he would have been released before the end of camp in Traverse City. If his name was Aaron Downey and he showed up to TC out of shape, he would have lasted about fifteen minutes for Mike Babcock. Speaking of Uncle Mike, how irritated do you think he is that he has to waste time and a roster spot on a kid who doesn’t have the initiative to avoid wasting the opportunity of a lifetime?
TeamDub
If Grigs really wanted to do anything he could to stay up here, he would have demonstrated his commitment by offering to stay in GR for even a couple more weeks beyond his contract mandated stint. Now, aided and abetted by his agent, he comes off as a spoiled, petulant child. Not gonna fly with the Organ-i-zation, methinks.
So, he wants to play and prove how damn indispensable he is? Fine,I say throw him on a checking line tonight. Throw him out for the odd 1st line shift. Play his chunky ass 20 minutes, see how *that* works out for him.
Exactly. First, his agent is a frigging tool. Like Fedorov’s dad, he’s tainted this kid. The sad thing is that Grigorenko doesn’t have a clue that it’s even happening. He has no idea what he’s being asked or what that idiot is saying on “his behalf.” He’s a scheister and he clutching to one client with his life. Every time I see “Mark Lapush, his agent, translating...” I want to puke. I guarantee what he tells the media is about half of what the kid actually says. Datsyuk needs to get in Grigorenko’s ear and fast. No, forget that. Igor Larionov does.
1 November’s a myth. The decision has been made and it seems irreversible. Someone in the “I” wants him here, but I have no idea who that is. As far as Uncle Mike’s concerned he’s Roy Hobbs before he tore the cover off the ball, and the only reason he got that chance was because Bump Bailey was a lazy ass. If we see him on any line but the fourth I’ll bet there’s some friction behind the scenes. But...if directed, and if Babcock plays him with Datsyuk...isn’t there a chance of chemistry? And if he all of a sudden flourishes (I know, I know)...what’s that do? Well, it spreads the wealth. It breaks up the Babcock Flying Circus which isn’t necessarly a bad thing as we would all agree.
I’m hoping that we see at least one game, maybe even a couple periods, of Grigorenko playing on a line with one of the Uberstuds. It would be a shame to see him head home and still have doubts about whether he can contribute. If he’s headed back to Russia, it’s got to be with no doubt in anyone’s mind. There has to be a consensus that he just doesn’t have it.
Danny Markov appears to have given up on American cigarettes and is heading back home to hold them like the spies do in the movies.
The emperor broke this one today.
Danny Markov has signed a two year agreement with Dynamo Moscow of the Russian Superleague.
The email from the source is much appreciated.
added 9:34am, Reported salary is $1.8 million after Russian tax. More on this as it develops.
1.8, eh? The Wings didn’t offer him that much? What about the other 29 teams Klessel claimed were “this close, THIS CLOSE” to signing him? None of them offered 1.9? Hard to believe a player like Markov can’t find a job in the NHL. And, yeah, the Wings could use him. While Andres Lilja isn’t playing as poorly as he did the first five games, he’s still a liability. But, he’s one we can’t seem to move...or he’s got a godfather in the “I”, just like Igor does.
A few reactions today to my post regarding Our Czech Miracle Of Insanity and his inability to stay healthy. I’ll stand by my concern, although I’ll admit I do have a tendency to lean toward reactionary thinking.
Nathan
Not surprising at all, but honestly not that worrisome in my mind.
I’m not so naive to think that any injury to Hasek is “no big deal”, but I think that’s exactly why he’s not playing for a few games—because the team isn’t that naive and they want to hedge their bets.
Could this be a minor hip thing, as Holland claims? Of course. And, yeah, it probably is. Could it be something else, like a groin? Maybe. Could Hasek play more than fifty regular season games. Not a frigging chance. None. The tandem you see tonite is the same one you’ll see more than a few times the rest of this season and all of next. I called for a controversy this morning and I believe one’s coming. But whatever we see this year will pale in comparison to next season’s, unless Howard proves he’s elite. Not capable. Elite. Capable starting goaltenders don’t enjoy the comforts of Detroit.
I see that DirectTV has the NHL Network now. Excellent. What about Verizon? Not only do they not offer the Center Ice package, but it I don’t see anything indicating they’ll carry the NHL Network either. Of course, they can give us the rodeo network, the soccer channel, three different spanish speaking sports channels, the NFL network...but no NHL. Speaking of DirectTV, I was going to subscribe again. I chose not to, and went with Center Ice Online just in case I travel, etc, etc. How’s it working? Not bad. Not bad at all.
Anyone having an office Halloween party? That’s nice. Hey, what are they calling it? Ours? “Fall Festival.” I guess Halloween’s not PC. How about your kids? Anyone’s kids actually having “Halloween” parties at the elementary schools? No? Why not? Oh, it’s not appropriate. Oh, hey...jack-o-lanterns. I guess the kids can’t draw those in class anymore, at least not here. Offensive you know. And the goblins, ghosts, witches, ghouls etc? The Wiccans in the DC area lodged a complaint that seeing those in windows, trees and on doors damages their pagan sensitivities.
I think I might have to start the trick or treating a little early this year. Just for fun.
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Candy corn, those orange spongy marshmallow peanuts, smarties… all yay, though none of ‘em beat out chocolate, especially true white chocolate, in my book of life.
Posted by BobTheZee on 10/26/07 at 12:34 PM ET
Candy corns...taste like you forgot to unwrap them.
Regarding a #33 hanging from the rafters, I’m not ready to close the book just yet. If he retired today, not a chance. But if he can continue contributing offensively like he has been, and if he manages to help lead the team to another Cup before he hangs them up, it might warrrant a discussion.
Having said that...and even considering my Draper jersey is the most well worn in the closet (my #19 is pristine...it’s my “good” jersey, for when company comes over and stuff), does #33 really belong next to #9 and #19?
Not so much. But then I feel the same way about #14 and #91, even if they had stuck around.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 10/26/07 at 12:39 PM ET
does #33 really belong next to #9 and #19?
Wow, I guess I never looked at it that way. But you can’t deny his heart being here in hockey… Detroit.
Posted by cementslinger from Midland MI on 10/26/07 at 01:10 PM ET
does #33 really belong next to #9 and #19?
I think he would be extremely flattered, but also quite embarassed. He’d probably be the first to tell you that he doesn’t deserve that level of honor.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/26/07 at 01:24 PM ET
I think he would be extremely flattered, but also quite embarassed. He’d probably be the first to tell you that he doesn’t deserve that level of honor.
Agreed.
RE: Candy corn—Yay...although it almost always results in a case of snacker’s remorse when I eat way too many. (Sometimes I wonder why I don’t just pull a bag of sugar of the cupboard and dump it right into my mouth.)
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 10/26/07 at 01:48 PM ET
Candy corn: NAY
Draper’s jersey hanging: I wish but Gabriel’s point is well taken. #33 would look very strange amongst that company. Then again, it took then 40 years to retire Abel so who knows. Another Cup *and* another Selke are necessary though; I doubt he will beat Zetterberg for that honor. However, he will be a part of the organ-i-zation for a long time and that in itself is a huge complement.
My own question: I’m going to the game today and it has been forever since I’ve been to the Joe. How early should I get there (want to see warm ups) and, more importantly, where should I park??
Posted by srt on 10/26/07 at 02:21 PM ET
The key with Dom is to just keep it real (yes, I just wrote that). Don’t act like he’s 100% when he isn’t, but don’t act like he’s dead until he leaves the team mid-season because of an “ass injury”.
Z will cost a lot of money, but I would be willing to bet the Wings will, like Datsyuk, get him for a “bargain” relatively speaking. Unless his new clothing line goes to his head, I don’t seem him longing for SoCal or New York, especially when the guy he works wonders with on the ice is already tied to the organization for the remainder of his prime. The team will probably be getting a new building, it has a lot of Swedes, and will always have a powerful Swedish and European contingent thanks to Hakan Andersson.
Posted by Nathan on 10/26/07 at 02:42 PM ET
SRT:
Was back visiting Detroit this week (lived in the metro area for ten years) and took my girlfriend to the Joe for her first home Wings game on Wednesday night. We parked at Foxtown for $5 and took the free Hockeytown Cafe shuttle to the game (and back). Worked out great, and avoided the traffic and parking at Cobo/Joe. The return trip was a little crazy, but didn’t take us too long to get back to our car. Regarding the warm-up: get to the arena at least one half-hour early and you should get to see it. Go right down to the glass - and take your camera. We got some terrific shots. Also, don’t miss the Gordie Howe statue - very cool. Have fun!
Posted by HockeytownPDX from Portland, OR on 10/26/07 at 02:45 PM ET
srt…
Park at the tended private lot just down from the Greektown Casino. Arrive early, throw some dice, win some bucks, throw down a quick bowl Jambalaya at Fishbone’s and hop on the People’s Mover to The Joe. Life is Good.
Candy Corn...my one weakness!
Posted by Rumbear from Smoke Diego on 10/26/07 at 03:04 PM ET
Thanks for the parking advice people...I’ll probably do the Foxtown thing and maybe catch a beer before jumping on the shuttle to the Joe. I was planning to do the Greektown thing but my (poor) friends crapped out on me and I’m going to be sitting next to some relative strangers…
They’ll probably think I’m a jingoist when I start yelling at the insane Czech miracle...oh wait, that’s right, he’s got a booboo. Oh well, at least the Blond Wind (33) will be playing and helping the eternally prepubescent goalie out… Just want to see the circus do its thing!
Posted by srt on 10/26/07 at 03:18 PM ET
Thanks, guys.
Looks like if I go with candy corn and m&ms;I should have all the kids covered. That way I’ll have something non-chocolate in case of allergies.
The Smarties and peppermint patties are for me, however. 
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/26/07 at 03:38 PM ET
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh…
That was the shiznit people...the absolut shiznit…
horrrrayy 22oz beers....boooo interference penalties..
Seriously, can we get that bald oompa lompa to review these calls and tell the refs to shove the whistles into their pants if they feel like making that call against Homer.
I had the nosebleeds...come to find out I paid triple price for the ‘privilege’ of having 4 in a row and buying them from a Season ticket holder through the Wings’ “ticket exchange program.” Umm...note to self/ all, don’t ever do that. What was great, however, was being able to sit with people who knew and cared about Hockey and booed everytime anyone from Jos-e and the Pussy Cats touched the puck after the call against Homer. *That* was great.
--Being one of three non-white fans in the whole building was a bit disconcerting--I never quite get used to that.
I’m saving my pennies to make it to another game...definitely...maybe even catch some of those $9 tickets to see what they’re like. I live a mile from the Joe so I should be able to get there early enough....
Too bad Ozzy didn’t get the shutout. Fans cheered for him though, which was nice. Mmmm...minced shark meat...OK...enough buzzed writing...carry on...nothing to see here…
Posted by srt on 10/26/07 at 09:51 PM ET
The Anti-Digger is reporting that Grigs was assigned to the Griffs, and as such has packed his bags to head for the motherland.
Wings retain his rights in case he decides to get in shape and learn how to skate over the next 10 months. But I’m not holding my breath. That car accident really seems to have done him in.
http://redwingscorner.blogspot.com/2007/10/grigorenko-heads-home-to-russia.html
Posted by Nathan on 10/26/07 at 10:54 PM ET
SRT: Sounds like you had a great time. Figure out how to go to the games and not spend too much money. $9 seats and no purchses other than the necessities (Molson). Then go more often.
I think of everyone at the Joe as non-white… They are all red & white!
Posted by w2j2 on 10/27/07 at 07:27 AM ET
horrrrayy 22oz beers....boooo interference penalties..
That could be a new NHL commercial!
(Or at least someone should do it as a parody on YouTube.)
Glad you had a good time. Definitely reduce expenses per game and go more often, especially since you are so close. Some of us live a few hours away and aren’t that lucky, so take advantage of it.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/27/07 at 07:41 AM ET
Candy Corn: only good when you soak them in water overnight, then blend them with lots of ice and vodka. Et voila-- Halloween (sorry, Fall Festival) Margarita!
If you vomit after drinking too many, you didn’t get the recipe from me, capiche?
Incidentally srt, if you were going to do the Greektown thing, depending on the day, it’s worth swinging by the Eastern Market beforehand-- you can stil eat there for under a five-spot. Saves you from the overpiced Lil’ Sleazers at the Joe.
The big cups of beer, however, are a necessity.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Candy Corn Hell on 10/27/07 at 09:51 AM ET
I live near a grade school. I think they are a little young for a candy corn margarita. If I lived closer to a high school, maybe.
(Is that a common drink at UM?)
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/27/07 at 10:11 AM ET
Damn, you’ve rumbled what I majored in. There aren’t many of us Mixology grads, but we’re proud. Was it that obvious that only somebody in college who was already pretty blasted would willingly drink something like that?
Nope, not a common drink. My own concoction, and for some strange reason, it never caught on like my other creations. One of my more popular was the Gatorini, finding a way to make Gatorade and gin palatable. And the fact that people woke up the morning after ten of ‘em with no hangover helped.
Oh, I’ve wasted my life.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from right underneath the beer bong on 10/27/07 at 10:20 AM ET
College or in the military. 
I’ll take your word for it on the popularity of the Gatorini, since I’m a non-drinker. But alcohol combined with candy corn does not exactly sound like a winner. Inventive, but I can understand why it ultimately did not catch on.
Oh, I’ve wasted my life.
And now we come down to posting on a hockey blog on a Saturday morning. I shudder to think of what that says!
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/27/07 at 10:35 AM ET
If you vomit after drinking too many, you didn’t get the recipe from me, capiche?
I darn near vomited just reading the recipe!!! I think I’ll just stick with candy corn straight up, so to speak, the way God intended. Candy corn and m&ms sound like a great combo to me… I hope plenty of folks on my treat-or-treat route come through in like fashion, maybe with a few Hershey’s kisses thrown in for good measure.
BTW, I’ve decided to go with the balding, middle-aged, AARP-member get-up again this year. I’ve been nailing that one for a couple of years now. 
Posted by BobTheZee on 10/27/07 at 12:12 PM ET
And now we come down to posting on a hockey blog on a Saturday morning.
Saturday afternoon where I am, babe. Or in the case of this post, it’s now early Sunday morning where I’m waiting for the fall time change to come so I can make some software modifications to some of my company’s clients and then go to bed. Wasted my life, yes. I’ll count the Gatorini a success based on the popularity and the fact that it would make James Bond and other martini cognoscenti shake their heads and tut condescendingly. Bastard fictional spies who get all the ladies. Russia my ass. Phrackin’ Salavat Ulaev...mutter mutter…
the way God intended
God never intended candy corn. It’s a tool of Satan. A little taste of what the inferno will be like.
That being said Bob, see if you can swing some S&M;this year...Skittles & M&Ms;. Great party snack. You’re going along, enjoying the chocolately goodness, then...OMIGOD! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS FRUITY NONSENSE?!?
Lotsa laughs.
Back onto topic because I don’t want to piss off a certain Chief Petty Officer-- as I understand it, Markov was offered over 2 mil by Kenny Holland on a one-year term. When he rejected it, Kenny withdrew the offer. Betcha Markov’s in the market for a new agent along with a new NHL team.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from under the nearest rock on 10/27/07 at 07:32 PM ET
I think he would be extremely flattered, but also quite embarassed. He’d probably be the first to tell you that he doesn’t deserve that level of honor.
Meant to get to Drapes earlier. Regarding retiring #33, while I could go either way, I think Drapes is a character guy. That is to say, he’d be against it for the simple reason that he comes to play every day and puts in 110% every shift, and if you ask him about heroism or glory, he’ll tell you that he’s just doin’ his job. He wouldn’t want his number to become untouchable, because he doesn’t put the individual above the team.
It’s the same reason that I saw for Nick being named captain after The Captain retired-- I may be mistaken, but I saw Stevie’s hand behind that. When everyone was clamoring for rotating As, take a few years, figure out who’ll wear the C after Stevie, he put his hands down and said no. His first act as a Wings veep was to make sure that letter C did not become sacrosanct or uselessly reverential, and he insisted that a successor be named. Because...no one player, no matter how glorious, is greater than the team.
Or maybe I’m idealizing these guys. To paraphrase Dr. Johnson, they play the game like angels, but they live like men. But hey, growing up with them, when heroes were scarce, they were there, putting down everything they had and more for the love of the team.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from a land devoid of champions on 10/27/07 at 07:47 PM ET
Andrew: on Stevie, the C and the Johnson reference. Keep drinking those gatorinis. That was a great comment.
Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC on 10/28/07 at 07:14 AM ET
Chief, yer Sarcasterizer rox my world.
Of course, if you’re being serious, many thanks. I try.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from the Internet, where nobody can hear you being sarc on 10/28/07 at 12:08 PM ET
Considering your locations, Andrew, maybe you should just abandon the concept of place entirely and be Andrew the internet nomad.
Candy corn was better when I was younger, although it was never my favorite (except for the way you could stick them on your teeth to make candy fangs).
I agree with you on the C. It’s important, but silly to treat it like some kind of holy mark. All it does, in my mind, is recognize a reality. If you have leadership on a team, it’s obvious who is looked to for that, whether they have a letter or not. And if you don’t have sufficient leadership, slapping a letter on someone’s chest won’t dust them with magic leadership fairy dust. Letter or not, Yzerman would have been in charge of his teams. Letter or not, Lidstrom would have a leadership role on this one. Captaincy is important in that it recognizes important qualities, but to get overwrought about it is investing it with an extra significance that it just doesn’t have.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/28/07 at 12:26 PM ET
I agree with you both on not making the C sacrosanct but any leanings that way is just another mark of Stevie’s legacy. He, *not* Mr. Hockey, has a C on his retired jersey, has been our hero for all our conscious lives and virtually the patron saint of Detroit.
The C may not be sacred but The Captain should always be treated as such.
--> Andrew: Chief was being serious… Viva Gatorinis!
Posted by srt on 10/28/07 at 04:59 PM ET
Skittles & M&Ms;
A bit late in reply, but I like the way you think!!!
I grew up with Gordie Howe… he earned “Mr. Hockey” and that title is his forever.
Stevie Yzerman earned “The Captain” and that title is his forever.
The C is a recognition and an honor, certainly, but in comparison with either of these two it’s just a letter.
Posted by BobTheZee on 10/28/07 at 08:52 PM ET
Bob, if you’re late, I’m later. Damn time difference.
Yes, that time difference. Baroque, you might have surmised from my previous post and my constantly shifting locations that I am NOT, alas, in Southeastern Michigan, or “God’s Country” as I like to call it. Despite being born and raised in A2, I’m somewhat embarrassed by my current location (in Europe), because I think it makes me something of a ‘bad fan.’ Residual guilt from having to pass on my season tickets, and now seeing the attendance problems, I guess. I know, some are on here from other faraway locations including our own esteemed Chief, and they (justifiably) feel no shame. Still, I dunno. I feel guilty. The moniker was given to me by a friend from Georgia who liked the alliteration (I didn’t have the heart to tell her that alliteration was only applicable to consonants, but that’s The South for you). Michigan is in my heart, if not my feet.
Well said about the C. Especially about the way conferring it will NOT make someone a leader if they don’t already possess those qualities. Didn’t have any of the 30 captains in mind when you wrote that, now did you? *cough* Jagr *cough* Naslund...nasty hack there, I should get it looked at.
srt, I thought the same when I saw the banner they raised to the ceiling of the Joe. It was great to see they had put the C on it. I have a dim memory of Danny Gare, but for most of my life it was Yzerman who wore that, and it should always be on his jersey (HIS C, not the Wings’ C) wherever it is. As for the comment, well, you never can tell with The Chief, and that’s why I love his blog.
BTW, Bob, my father grew up with Mr. Hockey-- I’m too young to have seen him in action, but his days when he used to get out of school at Cass Tech and walk down to the Olympia to watch the Production Line in action sparked something in him that he passed on to me. When he talked about the glories of Howe, I saw them reflected in Yzerman, and am grateful that for my generation, I had someone just like what he had. Somebody said previously on here that Gretzky will always be The Great One, Howe will always be Mr. Hockey, and Yzerman will always be The Captain, and how that was fitting-- no self-inflating overly-grand adjectives, no individual showiness, just the implication of perseverance, hard work, leadership by example, and humility because he has a team behind him, who as one unit add up to more than the sum of their parts.
Right, that’s long and maudlin enough. I gotta lay off the S&M;and Gatorinis.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Now You Know... on 10/29/07 at 01:46 PM ET
Didn’t have any of the 30 captains in mind when you wrote that, now did you?
Maybe just a few. *cough*Pronger*cough*
One of my pet peeves is giving the captaincy to a player who hasn’t earned it, even though he will wear it in a few years. It isn’t something that can be grown into like a kid with a new pair of pants. Just wait until he’s ready for it and stop rushing things.
You’re not a bad fan. You follow the team from afar, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/29/07 at 03:01 PM ET
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"And for the record, I don't hate the Red Wings, I hate their fans."
--Douche Bag at Puck Daddy who isn't Wyshynski
"You’re nothing but a douchebag ****, c3po. Go f**k yourself, and learn something about hockey in the process. Nothing ruins my day more than seeing your byline on the kk page."
--Hector, A2Y fan, statesman, Pittsburgh Chapter of Jonas Brothers Fan Club President
"I can just imagine the kindergarten teacher’s reaction when the tyke blurts out 'Mommy says Gary Bettman is a f*cking f*ckface! He wants to give ‘Rosby the bad touch.' ”
--Bella, of the 19
"A2Y is what other blog sites aspire to be when they fail to grow up: intelligent immaturity for the juvenile genius set”
--Captain Dennis Polonich, of the 19
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Important Halloween candy question:
Candy corns: yay or yuck?
(I haven’t run across anyone who was indifferent.)
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 10/26/07 at 11:41 AM ET