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Detroit Media: Zero Outrage. Fedorov? Plenty
by IwoCPO on 11/19/09 at 04:01 AM ET
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Not surprisingly, Detroit’s dailies offer nothing. No opinion, no voice whatsoever. Game recaps, references to the no-goal, but not a single inch of copy from a columnist calling this what it is: gross negligence.
But don’t fret. The Free Press has some controversy for you. Forget the kind that takes place a half-mile from your front door. Let’s go to Russia instead. Better yet, let’s go to the Russian media.
“I think we could have accomplished even more if it hadn’t been for the jealousy,” Fedorov said of the Russian Five.
Uh, what jealousy?
“On our own team!” Fedorov said. “We were playing great, but they were constantly holding us back by the trunks. They wouldn’t let us pull the trigger. Then, they totally broke up our five. ... I think we would have been able to do what needed to be done in the first two periods, and in the third you wouldn’t even really have to play.”
JFC. STFU Sergei. Not today. It’s a Russian publication, hoticemag.com, with about as much credibility as Yahoo.
Meanwhile, if you’re looking for the appropriate level of anger on this thing? Malik’s got it for you.
I absolutely detest using this word as I had an aunt with Down’s Syndrome, and she was, in her own way, one of the most intelligent human beings I’ve ever met, and as such, I hate to use a word that makes a value judgment based upon a condition that is anything but an indication of stupidity…
But this call and the whole concept that the “War Room” in Toronto can negate goals based upon theoretical intent to stop play simply because they don’t want to make their referees look bad is nothing more and nothing less than utterly, completely retarded. [Expletive-ing] retarded.
That’s the only word I can think of that adequately describes the kind of incredulous stupidity that a sports league must employ to enforce such a rule. Hard-headed, knuckle-dragging, empty-headed, and so ridiculously stupid that it doesn’t know how stupid, pathetically sad, silly, and arrogantly brain dead it looks by proffering Papal immunity upon its officials.
Good on ya, George. We dig it when you’re pissed. Wonder what your MLive cohort had to say about it?
Khan(!)
Brad May’s backhand shot was quick. But the referee’s whistle was quicker.
Are you F’ing kidding me? If anything it’s the opposite. That lead, that sentence, is as ridiculous as the call itself. Everything we know in this world has been proven in the last eight hours: the NHL referees are pathetic, Puck Daddy has a true and legitimate anti-Wing bias, and our deep diggers are just plain simple.
Finally, I think, Hockey Joe has a great write-up on this at Gross Misconduct.
The problem there being that the official states that the whistle had blown to kill the play. Well sure, the play is good and dead when you’ve scored a goal. Now give the NHL boys in Toronto’s replay war room credit, they called the Joe almost immediately to tell them that they screwed up and they’d better get it right. Instead, LaRue and Auger decided to do a very Major League Baseball-like thing and say, “Nope, I’m right because I say I’m right and there ain’t no stupid television camera that’s going to tell me different.”
Instead, these two make a bad situation worse because they’re first wrong about the goal and then they’re wrong about their reason for it not being a goal. Just perfect. Do I expect any kind of punishment from the NHL to the officials for bludgeoning a call? Of course not. If anything, Herr Bettman has shown nothing but blind support to his vision-impaired men in black and white and I expect there to be nothing different this time.
Let me confirm that for you Joe. Nothing will be done. Nothing.
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Meanwhile, lets all remember that Kronwall (clean) hit on Havlat was “the worst call in the history of sports”, right Chicago?
Posted by Guilherme from Brasil on 11/19/09 at 05:01 AM ET
I quit watching most sports some time back because of what I would call the appearence of fixed events, shady characters, bad personalities, etc…But to watch last nite what happened once again to the Red Wings, makes me want to tune out the NHL after 40 years of following the Wings. With all the technology, how do you get that wrong? And conspiracy? If I believe it goes on in our government, then sure it is plausable in the NHL with little Gary-Ass as commisioner.
Posted by Jeff from Loveland, CO on 11/19/09 at 06:32 AM ET
Seriously. Of all the days to bring in a story about Sergei running his mouth…
Posted by Kris from MI on 11/19/09 at 07:14 AM ET
The problem is that according to the rules, this type of situation is NOT reviewable, which means that even though Toronto had called and said it’s a goal, the refs can say too bad. This rule is as dumb as it gets. EVERY play should be reviewable.
Posted by George0211 on 11/19/09 at 07:40 AM ET
Auld, obviously, didn’t agree.
“They’ve got enough cameras in the building. If they say it’s not a goal, it’s not a goal,” he said. “I think the biggest thing was the intent of the official to blow the whistle.”
Right. Apathy has now developed into a healthy hatred.
Posted by Spocks Brain on 11/19/09 at 08:32 AM ET
If there’s anything true in the world it’s that Scotty Bowman LOVED to hold players back for the detriment of the team. Scotty was all about not allowing players to play their best to win.
It’s probably why Bowman will go down as one of the biggest losers in NHL history.
Anyway.
What’s the point of the War Room again?
Posted by Heaton on 11/19/09 at 08:48 AM ET
The way the game is officiated today, the statue of liberty goal would have been blown dead.
Posted by Chris in A^2 from Nyquist Puck Control on 11/19/09 at 09:09 AM ET
Dave Waddell, Windsor Star:
“The guy never meant to blow the whistle,” said Wings coach Mike Babcock.
“It was a shot. It was in on the shot. It’s as dumb as I’ve ever seen.”
When the referees were called back the timekeeper’s bench to take a phone call from the league’s war room in Toronto, the Wings were sure the goal would stand.
Babcock was still fuming that Auger and LaRue wouldn’t change their minds.
“That (call from league) was probably because Toronto can’t believe you could shoot it in the net and it could be waved off,” Babcock said. “They tried to make a way for him to change his mind, I mean whatever.”
For May the disallowed goal was particularly cutting as it would’ve been his first in a year.
“I recognize the referees are in a tough spot, but we have video replay in hockey for a reason, to make the right call in those circumstance,” May said.
“I think it’s a joke. It’s a 2-2 game and it’s a different outcome for us.
I have no problem with players/refs/coaches, doing their jobs to the best of their ability, yet making mistakes = it is human nature.
But when the league, that Gary built, has a scheme for reviewing goals/non-goals, and still fail, it is pathetic.
Auger and LaRue show their true character when they fail to “man-up” and admit they erred, despite given an opportunity by Toronto. That is what is truly pathetic here. They had several minutes to consider what had happened, to discuss it with Toronto, and yet failed to admit a painfully obvious error = disgraceful.
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 11/19/09 at 09:29 AM ET
The problem is that according to the rules, this type of situation is NOT reviewable, which means that even though Toronto had called and said it’s a goal, the refs can say too bad. This rule is as dumb as it gets. EVERY play should be reviewable.
I understand them worrying that it’ll drag games out, too many plays will be reviewed, etc.
how about they keep the rule the way it is, but add a “coach’s challenge” like in football? one challenge per team, per game - for ANY play, regardless if the rule says it’s reviewable or not. if you lose the challenge, you lose your time out. if you’ve already used your time out, it’s a bench minor for delay of game. that way the penalty for misusing it is pretty severe, but in situations like last night it would be beneficial.
of course, this is all assuming that they would have managed to get it right were the coach’s challenge in place. somehow I have a hard time believing the officials would be able to let go of their ego long enough to do the right thing for the game.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 11/19/09 at 10:23 AM ET
how about they keep the rule the way it is, but add a “coach’s challenge” like in football? one challenge per team, per game - for ANY play, regardless if the rule says it’s reviewable or not. if you lose the challenge, you lose your time out. if you’ve already used your time out, it’s a bench minor for delay of game. that way the penalty for misusing it is pretty severe, but in situations like last night it would be beneficial.
Wonderful idea. Unfortunately, it’s so full of common sense that it’ll never even be considered.
What I want to know is, if it isn’t reviewable, then why the *#$%@& did they review it?
This is, by far, the worst call I’ve ever seen in any professional sport. Ever. Not because the officials missed it initially, that’ll happen…those guys are humans, but because they missed it after the review (of a non-reviewable play, apparently) and then missed it again after Toronto called and told them they needed to get the call right.
Way worse than Ed Hochuli last year in that Chargers-Broncos game. Worse, even, than a few of those calls during the MLB playoffs this year, too.
It is absolutely unbelievable that these guys get paid to do this.
Posted by Flashtastick56 from Milford, CT on 11/19/09 at 10:45 AM ET
I want the goal judges back.
Posted by Jennemy of the Skate from putting the b*tches in the box on 11/19/09 at 11:11 AM ET
The simple fix is to let the actual referees see the replay on a monitor in the penalty box.All the war room can say is yes the puck was in,it can’t tell them when it was in.So if the ref could see the puck in the net right away he could say oh no i didnt blow that dead.
Posted by Neal from STL on 11/19/09 at 11:32 AM ET
I want the goal judges back.
I just want professional pride in a job well done back.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 11/19/09 at 11:33 AM ET
I don’t care what Federov has to say…just show me a picture of alyonka in thigh highs.
Posted by stoneman from vegas on 11/19/09 at 12:09 PM ET
I want the pre-Cindy/Gary days back
Posted by Davo on 11/19/09 at 12:29 PM ET
I want back to back finals games back…......that way I can better control their outcome…..........oh Snap!
Posted by Gary Bettman on 11/19/09 at 12:31 PM ET
Sadly, I’m having a hard time maintaining a healthy level of outrage. Years of this shit has turned anger into apathy. Right now we’re just nursing our wounds…and when the next puck drops we’re collectively just grabbing our ankles and waiting for the NHL to do their thing once again. It’s not a question of if, only a question of when.
Or maybe I’m just having a hard time staying mad because Guilherme reminded me about the Havlat getting Kronwalled. It’s like rainbows, strippers, and Crosby photoshops, you can’t help but smile.
The only reason I’m still here is because this team deserves loyalty. If I were a fan of any other NHL franchise and had to put up with this shit, I would have canceled Center Ice years ago.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 11/19/09 at 12:40 PM ET
Well Gabriel, I’m doing something about it. I will not be in any liveblogs this year. NASN was bought by ESPN and changed to ESPN America in Europe, and when my provider went bust, I lost my subscription (though no money). Since then, I have not renewed my subscription, but it’s been on my list of things to do. It is no longer there; instead I will be writing an email to ESPN explaining why I am not a customer of theirs (though they’ll probably just realize that’s why they dropped the NHL in the first place), and forwarding any correspondence to the League. I will not spend one more cent on this travesty, and I will not give them money. Even my news will come from third-party sites. Until they get their act together and decide that professional hockey should be PROFESSIONAL, I will not be a customer of the NHL. If more of us decide to do this, they’ll notice their empty pockets. Hopefully before it’s too late.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 11/19/09 at 01:08 PM ET
So now according to Mr. Murphey from the NHL, anytime a goalie makes a save, the refs need to blow the whistle?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=506731
Posted by 42jeff from Minot, North Dakota on 11/19/09 at 02:39 PM ET
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Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 11/19/09 at 04:15 AM ET