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by IwoCPO on 03/04/08 at 07:23 AM ET
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Updated at 1124 EST: I’ve pasted below the response Matt Saler provided to Dater’s blog entry.
Been a few days since you’ve stuck your head in an oven? Scars healing from the last self-induced fork to the temple? Good. So you’re feeling healthy, spry even.
The only redeeming quality of sobbing Dive apologist Adrienne Dater? He actually makes the Detroit sports columnists look smart.
I honestly think the Avs would beat Detroit in the first round of a playoff series right now, too. BUT, only if they get Smyth back. They really need that presence in front of the net to do it. Otherwise, Detroit still has the edge with their puck control. But the skill disparity up front has been largely wiped out with the returns of Sakic, Stastny and, now, Foppa.
Oh...it gets better.
Oh, and I remember the last time the Wings had the kind of smug attitude after beating the Avs the way they did last month: It was after Game 2 of the 1999 Western semi-finals, after Detroit shut the Avs out at home to take a 2-0 lead back to the Joe. And what happened? Avs win the next four games, and with total ease. So, don’t count those chickens just yet, Motown.
No, we’re always smug where the Dive are concerned. Always. But if you want to reference the last important game that left us that way? It wasn’t ‘99 idiot. It was Game 6 in ‘02. Yep, we were a little smug after that one, after the failed SOL. Man, that arrogance sure bit us in the ass didn’t it Adrienne?
Oh, wait. No it didn’t.
But he’s not done.
Datsyuk is a playoff bust year after year…
At least give the impression you do two minutes’ worth of research before you start moving your skinners over the keyboard Adrienne.
Datsyuk’s 16 points in 18 playoff games last year qualify him as a “bust”, I guess.
Read the rest if you’d like. Same Dater, different day. Bitter because his team has...fill in the blanks. Whining over...fill in the blanks.
Just get the 8 seed. Please.
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Matt Saler, our cohort from On The Wings, replied to Adrienne’s blog post. I think you’ll appreciate it.
“Datsyuk is a playoff bust year after year.”
Dater, do your job and check your facts before you make ridiculous statements like that. I know this is not a formal article for the Post, but you’re still a professional journalist and fact checking should be a part of your work, whether it’s for a blog post or an article.
The fact is, Datsyuk had 16 points in 18 playoff games last season. His playoff struggles were disconcerting for a few years, but then so were the team’s as a whole. Like the rest of the Wings, Datsyuk ably addressed those concerns last season.
Also, what is it with people associated with the Avs and Kirk Maltby? The guy just scored his first goal in 37 games. No one, not even Red Wings fans, sees him as a scoring threat. So if you want to spew baseless platitudes about the Wings’ forwards, forget Maltby. Talk about Cleary and Franzen.
Comment by Matt Saler — March 4, 2008 @ 6:33 am
Nifty reply Matthew. And add this to the mix: When’s the last time Kirk Maltby has been called for diving, or even accused of it? That is an amazingly stale topic. But, hey, have it at Adrienne.
Some may find my use of the term “nifty” surprisingly juvenile. I feel ya. It’s just one of those A2Y mysteries that can only be unraveled in time.
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That’s the beauty of the ‘net, isn’t it? You can say things to people behind the safety of anonymity that you wouldn’t have the balls to say to one’s actual face.
But, hey, I love you all, Wings fans.
Peace be with you.
Posted by Adrian Dater on 03/04/08 at 05:28 PM ET
That’s the beauty of the ‘net, isn’t it? You can say things to people behind the safety of anonymity that you wouldn’t have the balls to say to one’s actual face.
But, hey, I love you all, Wings fans.
Peace be with you.
do you care to address the direct rebuttals to your comments?
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/04/08 at 05:37 PM ET
Wow… Adrian Dater - Internet Toughguy.
Who would have thought?
Come on, Rocky… punch me in my .sig. I dare you. I double dog dare you.
I highly doubt that’s really Dater, though. Not nearly enough grammatical errors and faulty leaps in logic.
Posted by HockeyinHD on 03/04/08 at 05:43 PM ET
Dater, if it is you, not everyone with a blog hides beyond anonymity. Iwo’s not shy about using his real name and there are plenty of other bloggers (like me) who post with their names attached to their content.
Not that posting using a “real” name is proof of identity.
Posted by Matt Saler from Grand Rapids, MI on 03/04/08 at 05:44 PM ET
That’s the beauty of the ‘net, isn’t it? You can say things to people behind the safety of anonymity that you wouldn’t have the balls to say to one’s actual face.
Oh. Right. Kind of like you calling Maltby a “diver” and Datsyuk a playoff “underachiever”, eh? I’m sure you’ll be first in line ready to fire those off in the Wing room come April.
That is...if the Dive make the playoffs.
Yeah, peace with you too...Tool.
Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC on 03/04/08 at 05:49 PM ET
That’s the beauty of the ‘net, isn’t it? You can say things to people behind the safety of anonymity that you wouldn’t have the balls to say to one’s actual face.
But, hey, I love you all, Wings fans.
Peace be with you.
The irony. The double standards.
First of all, the writers of this blog and the Kukla’s Korner front page are not anonymous. Pretty far from it actually. True to your name and spirit, you ignore to make basic fact checks such as who the writer of this blog actually is. It is not Paul Kukla (or Kookla as you would rather hypocritically put it).
Secondly, isn’t it a bit whimsical of you to suggest that the writer of this blog would not dare to say what he has written here to your face? I would like to see you say some of things you have written to the players in question. Let’s start with Datsyuk, shall we?
Oh, I’m sorry — I forget, a loser such as yourself would never get any face time with an actual NHL player.
Posted by lilja4ever on 03/04/08 at 05:54 PM ET
Hmm, Floppa (foot problem) and Foote (integrity problem) sign with the dive and all of a sudden Thomath shows up. Seems like a sudden surge of confidence has allowed him to again curse us with his presence.
Thankth for all the inthight Thomath!
Posted by stuck at work on 03/04/08 at 06:03 PM ET
And Dater replies…
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2008/03/04/theyre-gripping-it-in-motown-a-little/
Posted by Jeffrey from Edmonton on 03/04/08 at 06:55 PM ET
What a douchebag…
Looks like someone left a comment on his little post.
Hmm.
Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 03/04/08 at 07:24 PM ET
I think it may be time for a comprehensive review of Adrienne’s body of work. Any volunteers? Ok. I’ll do it. More to follow…
Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC on 03/04/08 at 07:30 PM ET
Wait, I think I have made a breakthrough!
http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2008/03/03/why-do-i-blog-on-my-days-off/
I’m sitting around in my living room, after having played Thomas The Train with my son, Thomas, for about half an hour, before my back started acting up and I had to sit in a seat with a back to it.
His son’s name is Thomas?! That’s far too huge a coincidence to be just a coincidence.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/04/08 at 07:35 PM ET
Is this turning into an object lesson in why the MSM shouldn’t assume they know how to blog? Just because you can (allegedly) write doesn’t mean you know anything about blogosphere conduct.
Rule number 1 should be know WHO THE HECK IS THE AUTHOR OF THE BLOG ON WHICH YOU ARE POSTING!
I maintain that they wouldn’t have to worry about their useless carcasses if they would put in the effort to be accurate and professional instead of writing unmitigated coprolitic blather.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 03/04/08 at 07:59 PM ET
Baroque, you’re a gem.
unmitigated coprolitic blather
I truly wish I could compliment you in kind, but alas I cannot.
Posted by Hoser from Downer Peninsula, Michigan on 03/04/08 at 09:08 PM ET
I don’t know any good cuss words, so the best I can do is be unusual. Call it a character flaw. 
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 03/04/08 at 09:14 PM ET
I don’t know any good cuss words, so the best I can do is be unusual.
My offer to teach you unusual ones in different languages still stands, Miss B. 
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from The School of Creative Cursing on 03/05/08 at 03:47 AM ET
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