I guess the next 3 goals were huge. Bitches.

Your optimism led me to say it.

And officially, happy birthday, bitch.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 10/30/09 at 12:30 AM ET

Thanks again VooX. Now on to Calgary. I’m sure Ozzie will start.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/29/09 at 11:33 PM ET

And officially, happy birthday, bitch.

+1

Posted by calquake on 10/29/09 at 11:33 PM ET

Thanks Quake. I’m getting near my bedtime. I need my beauty sleep. Lots of it.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/29/09 at 11:36 PM ET

Nite all.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/29/09 at 11:37 PM ET

I wouldn’t mind seeing him gone, but I don’t have that same feeling where I’d gladly drink a liter of pee to see him dragged out of the Joe and beaten up like with Lebda.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/30/09 at 12:33 AM ET

My identical thoughts.

Posted by stayouttamalibu from Temporarily in Tempe, AZ on 10/29/09 at 11:37 PM ET

Jimmy Howard is the worst goalie in the NHL right now.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 10/29/09 at 11:39 PM ET

Bella - Congrats. I’ll pray for a health boy who shall become a man.

Kate - Happy Birthday. May God be pleased to grant you many, many more.

g’nite all.

((Just heard Babs say Fil’s wrist is broke, out for 6-10 weeks.))

((R. S. V.  ))

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 10/29/09 at 11:41 PM ET

Oh my *_£)^*_)$£()$(&*($%U($*^(*%$YU*

Fil, argueably one of our best, most consistent players so far broke his wrist. He’s out eight weeks or so…

Dandy.

Just fuching dandy.

If we’re sure nobody took a leak in the hockey god’s cereal we should REALLY start planning that. Who knows, maybe it’ll turn our luck around.

Posted by Robert from Skeetown on 10/29/09 at 11:42 PM ET

Fuch me.  Fil out with a broken wrist.  Can this season get any f*&^%ng worse?

Posted by calquake on 10/29/09 at 11:42 PM ET

Fuch me.  Fil out with a broken wrist.  Can this season get any f*&^%ng worse?

Be careful what you ask for, bitch.

I am working on getting enough IVs for us all to have a hard liquor drip 24/7.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 10/29/09 at 11:45 PM ET

Christ.

Season’s over, folks. Better earlier than later, I guess.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 10/29/09 at 11:46 PM ET

whoa whoa whoa my people and happy bday kate.

Did noone see FINALLY the intensity of the 3rd? Granted, we spotted a huge lead…but the fire and intesity of that period, its something to build on, all Uncle Mike has to do is run tape of the 3rd and say “here bitches, this is how you play Red Wing hockey”

My glass is still half-full at this time.

Posted by FranzensMouthguard from Chicago, IL on 10/29/09 at 11:49 PM ET

I am working on getting enough IVs for us all to have a hard liquor drip 24/7.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 10/30/09 at 12:45 AM ET

just hook it to my veins!

Posted by stayouttamalibu from Temporarily in Tempe, AZ on 10/29/09 at 11:52 PM ET

Also, my Grandpa (RIP) painted ships for a hobby, including the ol’ Edmund, maybe this’ll bring us some luck, he was a die hard wings fan

Posted by FranzensMouthguard from Chicago, IL on 10/29/09 at 11:52 PM ET

Posted by FranzensMouthguard on 10/30/09 at 12:52 AM ET

Beauty.  On that note, good night.

Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 10/29/09 at 11:58 PM ET

Only saw most of the first and the shootout…looks like every Oiler goal was off a second or third chance.

What the hell is up with this team’s defense?

Sucky way to lose in the shootout too…goes off the post perfectly…

Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 10/30/09 at 12:04 AM ET

Happy Birthday Kate.

What a fuching game.

Fil Out.

Loss.

weaksauce

Posted by Osrt on 10/30/09 at 12:13 AM ET

Is Jimmah on the Bettman Family’s payroll???
Great picture FranzensMouthguard the Fitz really is a beauty, the straight deckers from the 50’s have really nice lines, and she was built in Detroit!  if I’m not mistaken, one of the last to come out of Great Lakes Engineering works

Posted by Davo on 10/30/09 at 12:30 AM ET

Well, it good to see that they aren’t quitting, even if they get down huge. If they’re gonna revert to 08/09 Wings form though, they can only spot teams a 2-0 lead, not 4-0 and 5-1.

Wally going down *#$%@& blows. That’s a pretty big loss, because we have no one to plug into that spot, even as just a barely decent fix.

I’d have to guess the Circus is going to be broken up, so maybe we’ll see:

eVille-Dangle-Homer
Rejuvinabomberkamon-Hank-Buckets
Draper-Taz-Eaves
Maltby-Gator-May

We need to make a move. Unless Leino becomes an overnight sensation, that is a serious hole in our top six. But the problem is, who is out there that’s a top six calibre player, but also affordable?

what a present to get, seeing how I’m going to the Calgary game on Saturday.

This *#$%@& sucks.

Posted by Alzy from Innisfail, Alberta, Canada on 10/30/09 at 12:53 AM ET

And I forgot about Williams. I thought I was forgetting someone.

Well, considering what Uncle Mike went to for the rest of the game when Wally went down, I’d have to guess we could see:

Rejuvinabomberkamon-Dangle-Homer
Buckets-Hank-Williams
Leino-Helm-Eaves
Maltby-Draper-May

Posted by Alzy from Innisfail, Alberta, Canada on 10/30/09 at 01:42 AM ET

didn’t watch the game, haven’t watched much hockey so far this season.

but…

Rejuvinoozi.

44 with 2.

you do know he’s -7, worst on the team, right?

-7 after 11 games.  he’s on pace for a -50 this season.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 10/30/09 at 02:45 AM ET

helmer looked like himself tonight… night off treated him well. dare i say he could be given a shot at the second line center if babs wants to keep dats and z together?

too soon, i know. but when the kid is on, he just creates so damn much. if he had some finishers on his line, who knows?

and on a positive note, could eaves be a finisher after all? i thought he was having an incredible night BEFORE he scored that goal. if you read the post i linked to, you know my views on eaves. he definitely has an upside that i think was the most intriguing x-factor leading into this season. he has “red wing rejuvenation” written all over him. he had a 20 goal rookie season… and he’s only 25. i guess filps wrist means he finally stays in the lineup, which i’ve been calling for the whole season so far. give him a chance. i wouldn’t be surprised if he has a decent year, and we give him 2 or 3 more years right after the season. at the least, he seems to be a great 3rd or 4th liner. could he become a second liner like cleary? we’ll see… perhaps this new injury is the very catalyst for his big comeback.

on a not-so-positive note… leino hitting the post on that open net… um, isn’t that supposed to be the one situation he is good for, with that “nose for the goal” of his. an open net? i mean i can see lebda or draper ringing that off the post, but those were the plays hudler always buried (he’d roof that shit) and the plays leino needs to bury. or else he’s going to lose confidence and dwindle down on the 4th line eventually. hope he starts getting some bounces.

i think anytime they need to jolt a players confidence and/or production they should simply put the with dats for some shifts. i can barely ice skate and i would score like 10 goals against NHL goalies if i played with datsyuk. you just go by the net with your stick on the ice and close your eyes… even lebda scored the other night doing that.

(re: lebda - i clearly ripped on him twice in this post for a reason… and I don’t say this lightly, but I actually miss Chelios.)

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 10/30/09 at 03:09 AM ET

Hey guys, I’ve been busy with my music collection (yes, I’m going over to The Dark Side now that there’s an iPod with over 60 GB flash-based memory…no more crashy hard drives…and if you’re in the market for a used Creative Zen Vision:M 60 GB, lemme know and I won’t put it on eBay)...but just to say, if you’re all serious about Jobu t-shirts (and not reading the liveblogs, I have no idea who he is or how he started) I could talk to a friend of mine who makes clothing professionally including custom t-shirts, any design you want.  I could probably get something of a discount from him, but there are two disadvantages—one, I’d need money upfront, and two, most of you would be paying for overseas shipping.  Still, if you’re interested, let me know via PM and I’ll see what I can do.

And I blame Porky Pig for the loss—swine flu was a blessing for Deadmonton.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 10/30/09 at 05:01 AM ET

If you combine the distance that Jimmy was from the net on both goals, it would almost equal Lidstrom’s penis size. -TD Tyler

Yeah once other teams start watching video of what Jimmah does after the puck is near him for more than 3 seconds… there’s going to be trouble. 

one, I’d need money upfront, and two, most of you would be paying for overseas shipping
I’ve seen this one before…. should we send it to a Nigerian bank account to facilitate the transaction?

Flip = broken wrist
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…......

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 10/30/09 at 05:47 AM ET

The ‘tuzzi and Eaves goals were things of beauty.  I’m watching the replays over and over.

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 10/30/09 at 05:48 AM ET

Jimmy just needs to learn a little patience, learn when he should be busting a gut to get over there and when to wait so he isn’t out of position when they decide not to shoot when they thought he was going to.

I only actually saw two of the goals, one for sure he had no chance on and forget that farce in the net.  He saved it what three times despite being flat on his stomach (even though that was more luck than skill since he sure as hell couldn’t see it).

You could make a case for goalie interference on that too since one of the Oilers was blocking any leg movement.  But the whole thing was a farce anyway, couldn’t see where the hell the puck was on the replay, Howard sure as hell couldn’t see the puck, so I don’t see how the hell the refs could see it…

He got his shit together in the end, he can’t help the shoot-out ya need to score.  Just remember the wall of Bhulin let in five too.  That last shot on the shoot-out Howard had no chance and Zetterberg pretty much shot right into Khabibulin, that was an easy save for him.

Is the kid the best?  Hell no, but he isn’t going to get any better without some experience and having people acting like he’s a piece of crap for every puck that crosses the line isn’t going to help anything.

The bottom line, its too early to say whether or not he’s shit.

Posted by TheHair on 10/30/09 at 07:21 AM ET

Thank you all for the very nice birthday wishes. Yes Stonehands. Many more years. It’s not as if I haven’t been blessed with many already.  FranzensMouthguard my cup runneth over. Never say die. Osrt, I knew we were going to at least tie it up.

Now, if we could just find a goaltender. No, I’m not saying replace Ozzie, but Howard will never do. I’ve never seen someone so out of position and so far out of the net. At times he looked like he was faking it.Pretending that he had a clue.

I’m sure the rumor mill will be starting shortly. I wouldn’t mind a decent back-up if the price is right, and Tick-Tock has got to be thinking the same fuching thing right now.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/30/09 at 07:24 AM ET

I don’t think we have to make a move to fill a roster spot for 4-6 weeks and I don’t think the season is over.  This sucks big dick, but it just means that Maltby, May, and Eaves don’t have to play the rotating sitting game.

Datsyuk played 23 minutes last night, Zetterberg 19.  I don’t want them doing it all season long and I know the blah blah blah they’re tired from all the hockey they’ve played over the last two seasons crap, but those two need increased ice time now.  I know that increases the chance of them getting injured, but you can’t play hockey worrying about when the next injury will come.  They’re the leaders on the team for a reason and I doubt either of them would complain about playing those extra minutes.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/30/09 at 07:40 AM ET

I might be a little insensitive but the goalie issue has been all over the place for the last three seasons but we have relied on Ozzie but he’s not anywhere near a NHL goalie active in this team. Ozzie has been awful and Jimmmah has been even worse.

Posted by Lucce on 10/30/09 at 07:57 AM ET

Christ.  What a clusterf*ck of a roster.  Injuries and suckage.  This just may be a rebuilding/teaching year for us.  Let Howard let in soft goals so he knows what not to do next year.  Let Big Rig have guys blow by him and be a minus, so he knows what not to do next year.  Let Wally sit with a broken wrist, so he knows to um…drink more milk next year.  Jesus, this sucks.

And hey, I’m trustworthy—I paid my end of an internet bet, and you can ask Chief.  I may get a few run off, keep one for myself and send a couple gratis to Chief and WFIBL for his awesome design.  Then, if you like them, you can place yer orders.

One more warning that I forgot to put in—the friend in question is a big Stars fan.  But he’s one of the main sponsors of a British Elite League team, so he’s more absorbed with them, thanks Cthulhu.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 10/30/09 at 08:04 AM ET

Using injuries as an excuse for playing bad hockey is going to do nothing but put us even further behind the 8-ball in 2-3 years when we are no longer competing for a divsion title and are happy with being a 6-8 seed.

This system is broken.  Through the first 12 games of this season the coachnig staff has proven that it did nothing over the off season to address our issues from last year.  Things have only gotten worse.

Our roster right now is still deeper and better than it was in 2007 when we lost to Anaheim.  Yet people are so lazy to throw in the towel and use injuries as an excuse.

We’ll all reap what we sow if we don’t call things for how they are, and right now, this Red Wing team doesn’t play the kind of hockey that it did for the 15 years prior to and including our last cup winning team.

Posted by Freddo from Showbiz Pizza on 10/30/09 at 08:41 AM ET

JJ - I’m right there with you on the ice time for Dats and Zetterberg.

As an immediate change, I’m a big fan of removing those guys (and Lidstrom) completely from the penalty kill. 

If we aren’t going to have a good system and we are up for surrending goals 1 out of every 4 chances against our opponent, we might as well save their legs the way some of the other teams around the NHL have started doing.

This only gets further justified with the notion that we are going to be depending heavily on those guys tremendously to carry us through the regular season.

Posted by Freddo from Showbiz Pizza on 10/30/09 at 08:45 AM ET

After the par-tay, wrapping things up:

And pissed-off-Helm, could you please score your 1st goal as a gift to me?
Posted by Guilherme from Brasil on 10/29/09 at 03:26 PM ET

Happy birthday Guilherme.
Posted by Nate A from Dark side of the moon on 10/29/09 at 10:45 PM ET

Helm is God. And I love you, 19ers. (the assist was a bonus)

The Jimmah! looked great after the 4th goal (vomit), but I wonder: he wasn’t because Babs trusted him or because he didn’t trust Ozzie?

And damn, October… Wally’s down? There’s still 2 days in this shitty month, plenty of time for 13 guys to get injured in Calgary and the rest to get the swine flu.

Now I’ll just pretend it’s 2003 without shootouts, and be happy with tying a 0-4 game.

Happy birthday, Kate, may Helm bless your paths.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 10/30/09 at 08:56 AM ET

The Jimmah! looked great after the 4th goal (vomit), but I wonder: he wasn’t PULLED because Babs trusted him or because he didn’t trust Ozzie?

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 10/30/09 at 08:57 AM ET

Wally.

*#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@& *#$%@&

Posted by Bella on 10/30/09 at 09:18 AM ET

I swear the god of vulcanized rubber has cast his/her injury curse on this team since May 1st.

That said, I was mildly surprised this morning to see the Wings got a point out of that disaster last night.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 10/30/09 at 09:39 AM ET

Oh yeah, and happy birthday Kate.  I’m going to get you just what a girl needs around this time of year and with the news she’s had.

Turpentine and orange juice.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 10/30/09 at 09:51 AM ET

Happy birthday, Kate, may Helm bless your paths.

Posted by Guilherme from Brasil on 10/30/09 at 09:56 AM ET

Thank you Guilherme, and may Helm bless your path as well.

Oh yeah, and happy birthday Kate.  I’m going to get you just what a girl needs around this time of year and with the news she’s had.

Turpentine and orange juice.

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 10/30/09 at 10:51 AM ET

Thank you Andrew.  I’m not much of a drinker but that sounds good. I’ll be comatose until we sign a backup.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/30/09 at 10:04 AM ET

Happy Birthday Kate!!

- just for you
Let’s Go Red Wings!!!!

The news about Walter is just awful.  Like the first period last night except worse.

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 10/30/09 at 10:06 AM ET

Too many Newports last night. You know how some people only smoke when they drink? Well I usually lite up a few during a game.

I get all nerved up and then next thing I know I’m having a smoke. I feel like sh!t today. Nicotine poisoning. Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/30/09 at 10:09 AM ET

Happy Birthday Kate!!

- just for you
Let’s Go Red Wings!!!!

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 10/30/09 at 11:06 AM ET

Thank you HC. I have family in Conifer, and the Denver burbs. Some of them have gone over to the dark side, but those are the Nephews that have lived there for most of their lives. Little traitors.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 10/30/09 at 10:17 AM ET

JJ - I’m right there with you on the ice time for Dats and Zetterberg.

As an immediate change, I’m a big fan of removing those guys (and Lidstrom) completely from the penalty kill. 

If we aren’t going to have a good system and we are up for surrending goals 1 out of every 4 chances against our opponent, we might as well save their legs the way some of the other teams around the NHL have started doing.

This only gets further justified with the notion that we are going to be depending heavily on those guys tremendously to carry us through the regular season.

Posted by Freddo from Showbiz Pizza on 10/30/09 at 09:45 AM ET

I agree with taking Datsyuk and Zetterberg off the PK, but not Lidstrom.  I still want them backchecking and playing defense in their 5-on-5 shifts, but let May, Helm, Maltby, and Eaves get those minutes on the PK.  So we’ll hardly score shit for shorhanded goals, can those guys be worse than what we’ve got going on now?  Keep Lidstrom on the PK because he erases the guy whose there to put in the rebound better than anybody I’ve seen and he does it without having to cross check them.  Besides, Stuart is the only other D-Man we have on the roster who comes close to being a shut-down PK guy. 

I know, I know.  Agreeing with this sentiment is a bit damaging to a 19er.  There’s a certain part of swallowing your pride involved.  I readily admit that when comparing Datsyuk and Zetterberg to other high-end talent around the league that I used the fact that they actually kill penalties as a huge part of why they’re more complete hockey players than most of the competition.  The fact is that with less offensive talent on the club than many of us have seen in a long time, we can’t let every job fall to every player.  It’s time for shutting mouths and knowing roles.  I don’t care if Eaves doesn’t score ten goals this year if he can be a big part of the reason we can hold a PK percentage in the respectable 80s.  We want May to contribute?  Shit yes he has so far and a lot of people are loving him.  Still, who would you rather have out there to block a Sheldon Souray bomb, him or Datsyuk?

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/30/09 at 10:18 AM ET

I kind of like that idea J.J., and I was going to make mention of the block shot factor until your last sentence.

Posted by Triple Deke Tyler from Lansing on 10/30/09 at 10:26 AM ET

... proving once again that I get all of my material from you.

Posted by Triple Deke Tyler from Lansing on 10/30/09 at 10:27 AM ET

... proving once again that I get all of my material from you.

Posted by Triple Deke Tyler from Lansing on 10/30/09 at 11:27 AM ET

It’s genetic.  I…am your father.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/30/09 at 10:47 AM ET

Your name isn’t JJ, it’s Chad, right?

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 10/30/09 at 10:54 AM ET

Your name isn’t JJ, it’s Chad, right?

Posted by mrfluffy from Cincy on 10/30/09 at 11:54 AM ET

Only when I’m at work.  I hate this grocery store.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 10/30/09 at 11:08 AM ET

I heard about your bicycle accident. Sucks.

Oh, and Kate, Happy (late?) Birthday. Must’ve missed majority of the H.B. comments before.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 10/30/09 at 11:16 AM ET

Kate, Happy <strike>Devil’s Night</strike>, er , Birthday.

Our secondary and tertiary scoring are gone to injuries. Our primary scorers have forgotten how to score, or even deke. Colanders have a better GAA than our goalies. Our veteran leadership is MIA. Our coaching staff looks like it couldn’t handle a pee wee team. And Homer leads the team in goals.

Is it morning, yet? This has to be a nightmare. I’m going to wake up any second, right?

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 10/30/09 at 11:38 AM ET

Wise thoughts on the PP situation, Fredo, JJ. 

Goaltending and defense has largely been this team’s downfall. I don’t care if we have to go the way of the Devils or Wild, but we need to get that GAA way down. 

I recall our Uncle saying that he hoped Eaves could be a good penalty-killer for this team. I say, now is his time.

The main problem is we lose two good faceoff men taking Z and Pav off the PK. Can Cleary play center? What about Williams? Is it crazy to put him on the kill?

Draper - Eaves
Lidas - Jonny

Cleary - Maltby/Williams?
Kronwall - Stu

Posted by pilgrim from the ice at the bottom of the world on 10/30/09 at 11:48 AM ET