So will and determination, leadership and coaching, all these things, you look at them and you can’t give them a very good mark

Maybe he is accepting responsibility, but if I were one of the assistant coaches I’d feel that he was talking about me.

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 03/05/10 at 09:14 AM ET

Once again, above and beyond fantastic work Okie.

I can’t add anything that hasn’t been already or will be said about the Wings play of late.

Just show some fuchin’ heart.  Just win.  Period.

Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from Lidstrom's head telling him 1 more year on 03/05/10 at 09:22 AM ET

“Granted, the Wings have been ridiculously shorthanded for the vast majority of the season, so the 63 game sample is skewed.  But that certainly does not explain Wednesday nights embarrassment, and general lack of work ethic. Coach Babcock is spot on - - it is unacceptable, and un-Red Wing like.”

This?:

“I didn’t have them prepared—you can’t play like that if you’re prepared. They weren’t prepared.” (Babcock)

Hmmm….... Uncle Mike, not to second guess or anything, but I wonder if that may have something to do with what you have been FOCUSED on for the past few weeks, as in NOT the Red Wings.
But, what the hey….. you and Sid got yer gold medal. Enjoy.
Posted by dougie on 03/04/10 at 12:35 PM ET

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Difference day, new game tonight.

never
never
never
give
up

L.G.R.W.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/05/10 at 09:26 AM ET

One shift at a time. Nevermind looking 20 games down the road when we don’t know what to expect 20 minutes down the road.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 03/05/10 at 09:53 AM ET

As a certain Sailor once told me, nothing is ever easy

As long as we are quoting sailors, a sailor also once said “obey the first rule of sailing, never piss into the wind”.  Mr. Wingnut, I believe you just brok the first rule of sailing.

Posted by gretzky_to_lemieux on 03/05/10 at 09:58 AM ET

It certainly does seem like now that the Olympics are over that suddenly Babcock is all hard ass and really invested. Funny it didn’t seem that way for most of the season..

Posted by zettermonkey on 03/05/10 at 10:36 AM ET

One thing that hasn’t changed this year:

08-09 DET:  2.94 ga/g (21)

FIX IT.

Or else I’m briging a .22 and a high-powered scope to H2H to get some frickin’ motivation into this team.  If Uncle Mike can’t motivate them, Uncle Remington will.

And where the hell is Lilja4ever when you need him around to gloat?

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 03/05/10 at 10:49 AM ET

Maybe he is accepting responsibility, but if I were one of the assistant coaches I’d feel that he was talking about me.

Don’t they bear some responsibility also?  They all do.

Posted by Incognetis from Delaware... Hi... I'm in... Delaware on 03/05/10 at 10:59 AM ET

Thank you Jeff. I have some good news too. I just got my beautiful new #13 Authentic Red Wings jersey from my son. Imagine my surprise when I opened the package and realized it wasn’t a replica.

Fuching awesome lad I raised. I’m giddy. Better yet, it’s just in time for the run, and, #13 is my lucky number. Let’s roll. Bitches.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/05/10 at 11:08 AM ET

Imagine my surprise when I opened the package and realized it wasn’t a replica.

Fuching awesome lad I raised.

wow, hopefully I’ll have a kid one day who understands my love of the Red Wings to accost Pavel Datsyuk and nab a jersey for me.

oh, wait, maybe I’m misunderstanding what “not a replica” means…

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/05/10 at 11:41 AM ET

beautiful new #13 Authentic Red Wings jersey

That is magically delicious(!)

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/10 at 11:44 AM ET

Does it have a fight strap, Kate?  You’ve always struck me as the kind of woman who would need one…

(Yes, that’s a compliment…)

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 03/05/10 at 11:48 AM ET

That is magically delicious(!)

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 19 on 03/05/10 at 11:44 AM ET

  Dangle-isious. Can’t wait fro the Flyers fans to just try to spill beer on it on April 30th.
They are a vicious bunch. Heck, the fans stab each other. Happened earlier this year.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/05/10 at 11:52 AM ET

Does it have a fight strap, Kate?  You’ve always struck me as the kind of woman who would need one…

(Yes, that’s a compliment…)

Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 03/05/10 at 11:48 AM ET

Yes it does. And thanks for the compliment. I’m sure I’ll be needing it(the strap) on April 30th.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 03/05/10 at 11:56 AM ET

Thankfully a place to come and flagellate myself with other like minded, obsessed idiots.

I wasn’t going to post this yet again, but each day it becomes more and more obvious what a good thing winning is.  At game 52 the Kings and ‘Yotes were right with this pack of non-performers but have since played in a different universe (remember when the Wings played the Kings with an opportunity to jump 1 point ahead of them?).

The Flamers and and Cold Wings have moved basically sideways and let a gaggle of other teams catch up with them, not the least of which is Saint Louise.  Winning is awesome.

Just concentrating on the POS teams….  RSV.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/10 at 12:13 PM ET

First time I’ve stumbled across the Bleacher Report, but they have a good analysis of the road ahead:

With 70 points and just 19 games remaining, it is estimated that the Wings will need to accrue somewhere between 24 and 28 points in that span in order to secure the eighth and final playoff spot in the West.

If that estimate is correct, that’s a minimum of 12 wins in 19 games.

Now, a couple overtime losses could be sustained (and likely will be as the Wings lead the league in that department with 12) that could still add to their point total and thus, perhaps reduce their needed wins to 11.

But, considering that eight of those next 19 games are against opponents who themselves may be battling for the eighth and final spot (Calgary, Nashville, Minnesota, and St. Louis) turning these matchups into three point games could prove fatal to the Wings’ playoff hopes.

The margin for error is razor thin, and though they still cling to the eighth seed, there’s too many teams within striking distance to think that anything short of a monumental turnaround to their season is going to allow them to hang on to it.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/10 at 12:14 PM ET

Great write up again, but WTF 41-14 !!  That is Smokin’ Hot!  I’m sure we were bitchin’ about giving up a 2 goal lead in the 3rd and relying on a late goal to pull it out.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/10 at 12:15 PM ET

Now, a couple overtime losses could be sustained (and likely will be as the Wings lead the league in that department with 12)

This is what will be their downfall. The first tiebreaker is wins. I foresee us beating the Blackhawks on April 11th, ending up in a 4 way tie for 8th place, and not making the playoffs because of too many OTLs and not enough Ws.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 12:22 PM ET

I and others have been saying this for months…

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=4965430

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 12:23 PM ET

Jeff I was looking at the same obsessed pcts and games remaining this morning and updated this chart I made 8 games ago with 1/3 of the season left.  Since then, 27 GR, the Wings have played .500 and if continue like the past 8 games playing .500 over the remaining 19 games, will finish with 89 points.

Need at least 11-5-3.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/10 at 12:25 PM ET

We win tonight.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/05/10 at 12:28 PM ET

Oh, and on a couple of bright notes,  Congratulations Kate !  That’s awesome today and will remain so for decades each time you look at it and anytime you wear it.

Other good news, I’m going to go out for pancakes in a minute for lunch at the River City Diner.

Capn Dennis I’m on outlaw dial up at work and can’t download the page fast enough to comment!

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/10 at 12:29 PM ET

We win tonight.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/05/10 at 12:28 PM ET

I believe so.  Despite all the surrounding gloom, a few wins could really propel us away from most of the Peloton.  Trouble is I’ve been hoping for that for too long with no matching reality. 

I believe tonight is a win.

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/10 at 12:33 PM ET

Capn Dennis I’m on outlaw dial up at work and can’t download the page fast enough to comment!
Posted by RWBill

Here is a digest version. From espn

Updated: March 4, 2010, 3:28 PM ET

Blame Canada if Wings miss playoffs
Yzerman and Babcock deserve gold, but Olympic pressure didn’t help Detroit

DETROIT—Who would have thought that after 18 consecutive postseason appearances—including back-to-back stops in the Finals the past two seasons—the Detroit Red Wings would begin March fighting for their playoff lives?

But that’s exactly where they are and, well, it’s a bit unnerving for the good folks of Hockeytown.

“Injuries,” 22-year-old fan Andrew Nendrzychi said. “We’ve had a lot of injuries this year. More than I can ever remember.”

Indeed, with seven players placed on injured reserve before Christmas—including star forward Henrik Zetterberg—the team started 2010 having already surpassed the 187 man games missed because of injuries it suffered all of last year.

But I gotta tell ya, while I don’t question whether injuries have contributed to Detroit’s current predicament, I can’t ignore the nagging little voice in the back of my head that keeps repeating two words: Blame Canada.

I don’t mean in the way Red Wings senior vice president Jimmy Devellano blames Canada. (He feels the compacted NHL schedule to accommodate the Olympics is part of the reason for his team’s rash of injuries.) No, I’m blaming Canada because so many people who are critical to the Wings’ success were involved with Team Canada.

I’m not hating because the U.S, finished second. I’m just offering a theory as to why the Wings are barely holding on to eighth in the Western Conference.

Usually when we talk about the Olympics, we focus on the toll it takes on the players and the split loyalties between NHL team and country that occurs when a tournament is held midseason. Then there’s the drop in focus that can happen when teams take two weeks off. But as I peel back the layers regarding the Red Wings, I can’t help wondering if it was some of the team’s leaders, and not the players, who were distracted most by the Olympics.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 12:35 PM ET

I and others have been saying this for months…
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=4965430
Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 12:23 PM ET

Dear Canada,
You’re welcome.
Now gimme back my son.
Signed,
Fans of the Detroit Red Wings

Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 03/05/10 at 12:40 PM ET

And where the hell is Lilja4ever when you need him around to gloat?
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 03/05/10 at 10:49 AM ET

The Emperor sent him packing along with the Kid from Windsor under his old name anyway.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 03/05/10 at 12:54 PM ET

RWBill, looking at your graph, was disturbing because I had to look at the straight steep slope of the BBBs to see what a winning streak looks like on your graph.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 01:14 PM ET

Great write up again, but WTF 41-14 !! That is Smokin’ Hot!  I’m sure we were bitchin’ about giving up a 2 goal lead in the 3rd and relying on a late goal to pull it out.

It is all about perspective, isn’t it?  Last seasons mantra was “the next three goals are huge” - - but, more often as not, DET could score three (they averaged 3.62/game).

This seasons 2.56 is anemic by comparison.  Note that Hoss/Hudler/Sammy had about 70 goals at this point last season which would equal 165 +70 = 235/64= 3.67 g/g.  The obvious conclusion is no-one is picking up the slack, but thats not true.  Look at 08-09 going into game 64:

Pavel Datsyuk 62 25 50 75 28
Henrik Zetterberg 58 24 32 56 14
Brian Rafalski 63 8 43 51 14
Nicklas Lidstrom 60 12 32 44 24
Johan Franzen 52 25 14 39 12

This season:
Pavel - 17
Hank -17
TPH - 7
Raffi - 4
Mule - 5 (discount for long term injury)

So it isn’t so much that the “team” hasn’t “picked up the slack”, rather that, as Uncle Mike says, your best players have to be your best players.

Granted this seasons GAA (2.60) is +0.34 compared to last seasons 2.94. 

G/G 3.63 - 2.56 = -1.07
GA/G 2.94 - 2.56 = +0.34

But the difference is -0.73.

Which all goes to point out, as Capt. Obvious told me; Wings aren’t winning because they cannot freaking score.

Next three goals are huge is now an understatement.  The next three goals are likely all DET will get.

E-52 may, or should be, seeing a whole lot of the press box.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/10 at 01:55 PM ET

Seems the lawyers over at Four Habs Fans have co-opted RWBills clusteraux to the playoffs, but have not yet appropriated the peleton of suck:

As a result of all that, your clusterfuck this morning is Habs in 10th, and Atlanta holding the 8th spot. Atlanta? Atlanta.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/10 at 02:17 PM ET

in the next two seasons things will have to change drastically, this team is misplaced in time, it has been almost the same players for too many seasons now, and offcourse as the time moves ahead so do the teams in the leauge, others rejuvenated, adapted,inovated,....
but Wings are the same old team, and evolution is mercyless, there are too many players on the team whos time is passing rapidly bye, many players whos time hasnt even come yet,and just about half a dosen of players that are in their actual prime years,
that is a team that cannot survive the change of competition
so in the next two seasons I believe that we will need to aquire 2 wingers and a defenseman,all below 30 years of age and actually proven to be consistent at playing their game, I know its easy to talk, but future could be grim if a big change doesnt come

Posted by edillac from isolation on 03/05/10 at 02:19 PM ET

Good job Jeff, Thanks.

Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 03/05/10 at 02:28 PM ET

as the time moves ahead so do the teams in the leauge, others rejuvenated, adapted,inovated,....
but Wings are the same old team

this is an excellent point.  the Wings were pioneers of their puck-control high-finesse style in the 90s and first half of 00s.  so other teams reacted and adapted to compete.  now it’s time for the Wings to react and adapt to THOSE teams to be able to compete with them consistently.

it’s like the arms race - you make better armor, your enemy makes a better bullet…so you make better armor, and then your enemy makes a better bullet.

the Wings were the better bullet.  now other teams have armored up and the Wings are the same old bullet.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/05/10 at 02:37 PM ET

so in the next two seasons I believe that we will need to aquire 2 wingers and a defenseman,all below 30 years of age and actually proven to be consistent at playing their game, I know its easy to talk, but future could be grim if a big change doesnt come

I’m not disagreeing, but what you’re talking about costs between $7-25M in cap space, depending on how “proven” they have to be.  I wouldn’t mind if the Wings went after Anton Volchenkov (age 28) in the offseason, but I think he’s going to be due for a big raise over the $3.2M salary (and $2.5M cap hit) from this season.

Frolov would also be great, but he’s going to command somewhere in the $4.75-$6M range.

Colby Armstrong, Thomas Plekanec, Lee Stempniak, Marek Svatos,  are all 27 and are probably going to be individually affordable, but they also come with the risk of being somebody not as proven.

I’m personally pulling hard for Ritola and Tatar to develop, as well as Kindl.  I think they can be our two young wingers and young D man that make a big difference.  It sucks that the Wings haven’t had a can’t-miss draft pick in just about forever, but unless we’re talking about Kenny blowing up the lineup and getting rid of some big names, I can’t see where that happens.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/05/10 at 02:38 PM ET

unless we’re talking about Kenny blowing up the lineup and getting rid of some big names, I can’t see where that happens.

the list of U/RFAs after this season is huge.  if there is to be a shakeup, this is the off-season to do it.

Helm
Miller
Eaves
Williams
Meech
Lidstrom
Holmstrom
Bertuzzi
Lilja
Maltby
Lebda
May

that’s a lot of money sitting on the table.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/05/10 at 03:10 PM ET

Oh, oh.
Uncle Mike is resorting to animal sacrifices?

“Adoptable puppies, dogs, and kittens will be on hand at Joe Louis Arena Friday, March 5 when the Wings take on the Nashville Predators.”

http://redwings.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=61832

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 03/05/10 at 03:26 PM ET

that’s a lot of money sitting on the table.

That’s true.  Honestly, what’s your take on them?  Individually, here goes:

Helm: Re-signed, $500K-$1M more cap space than last contract
Miller: Casualty
Eaves: Re-signed for about $500K more
Williams: Imminently replaceable (even though I like him)
Meech: Spare parts, bye bye
Lidstrom: Signs for $4.5M (please, please, please)
Holmstrom: Re-signs for the $1.5M range (savings of $750K)
Bertuzzi: Tougher call than Williams, but bye-bye
Lilja: If he’s willing to sign for the same $1.25M he’s at now or possibly as high as $1.5, I’d take him.
Maltby: Brought on as assistant coach in charge of checking your ego at the door for the sake of the team
Lebda:  HA!
May: Goodbye.

That gives us, what, about $7M to play with for next year and a roster that looks something like this?

Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Zetterberg
Franzen-Filppula-???
Cleary-Helm-???
Eaves-Abdelkader-Draper

Lidstrom-Rafalski
Stuart-Kronwall
Lilja-Ericsson (Kindl?)

I put Cleary on the third and Eaves on the fourth as placeholders.  I know they can each move up a line, but I’d rather have the flexibility to have somebody above both of them on the depth chart.  Of course, you can also switch Homer and Cleary around, but the point is that I think we need Wingers for the 2nd, and 3rd lines.

I think with the need to fill other depth gaps, we’re probably looking in the $3-4M skill player range for a splash offseason signing.

Note, there’s an enormous chance I have no idea what the hell I’m talking about.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/05/10 at 03:34 PM ET

Oh, oh.
Uncle Mike is resorting to animal sacrifices?
“Adoptable puppies, dogs, and kittens will be on hand at Joe Louis Arena Friday, March 5 when the Wings take on the Nashville Predators.”

About damn time. He should have done it the first week of February. February had to be one of the worst months I can remember without resorting to Wikipedia. Two wins and four losses in eleven days. He needed to perform those sacrifices during that awful west coast roadie.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 03:41 PM ET

J.J. from Kansas on 03/05/10 at 03:34 PM ET

Spot on JJ.  Goal scoring is the glaringly obvious problem.  See Above.

I’d even keep Bert at 1.5, his 35 pts (15 goals) and his size make him a value on the 3 line, plus he can move up in case of injury.

I’d spend the rest on one very talented Winger for the 2 line.

The Wings need goals in the worst possible way.

And Stonehands:  Uncle Mike is resorting to animal sacrifices?  Whatever the fuch works.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/10 at 03:42 PM ET

And whoever the Wings fan(s) is(are) that created all the wiki pages for every Red Wings’ season, thank you. That must have been a time consuming task.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 03:44 PM ET

Great job Okie.  Definitely down to the short strokes on this season. 

Love that Peloton of Suck graphic.  You know if you tilt it they are all going downhill…...

Posted by Rumbear from Top O da Hasek, sippin rum & catchin some rays on 03/05/10 at 03:53 PM ET

the list of U/RFAs after this season is huge.  if there is to be a shakeup, this is the off-season to do it.

Helm
Miller
Eaves
Williams
Meech
Lidstrom
Holmstrom
Bertuzzi
Lilja
Maltby
Lebda
May

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/05/10 at 03:10 PM ET

Keep Helm, Miller, Eaves (what additions those last 2 have been), Lidstrom, Holmstrom, and.. *gulp*... maybe even Lilja.

Say goodbye to Williams, Meech, Bertuzzi, Maltby, Lebda, and May.  Sayonara.

That’d be my wish list.

JJ if they let Miller go I will never, ever forgive Kenny, Mike, or Steve.  Ever.

Posted by Primis on 03/05/10 at 03:58 PM ET

Completely unrelated - The Onion breaks down Ryan Miller’s strengths and weaknesses:

http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/ryan_miller

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 03/05/10 at 04:07 PM ET

Great job Okie.  Definitely down to the short strokes on this season. 
Love that Peloton of Suck graphic.  You know if you tilt it they are all going downhill…...
Posted by Rumbear

At least in the peloton we still have a chance. I guess it’s better than being in the autobus with C-bus, or God forbid, fighting it out with edmonton for the lantern rouge.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 03/05/10 at 04:09 PM ET

Lidstrom-Rafalski
Stuart-Kronwall
Lilja-Ericsson (Kindl?)

everybody keeps forgetting about Tollefsen sitting in GR.  he’s 25, 6’2” 211 lbs, has played 160+ NHL games for an overall -6 (not bad considering he was a BJ), is not shy of fighting, and does this to people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzEtEXmyDjo

plenty of his fights listed in the related videos, too.

I want to see him and Kronwall play together.  400 pounds of asskicking defensemen running around the ice knocking people into next week.  I can’t wait!

he hasn’t had a stellar career, but he’s just the kind of solid young player the Wings frequently manage to fit right into the system and extract his full potential.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/05/10 at 04:10 PM ET

Completely unrelated - The Onion breaks down Ryan Miller’s strengths and weaknesses:

http://www.theonion.com/content/infograph/ryan_miller

“Trying to put things into the cart while grocery shopping with him is one of the most frustrating things in the world.”

picture it in your mind.  then LOL.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 03/05/10 at 04:14 PM ET

everybody keeps forgetting about Tollefsen sitting in GR.  he’s 25, 6’2” 211 lbs, has played 160+ NHL games for an overall -6 (not bad considering he was a BJ), is not shy of fighting, and does this to people:

You know, you’re right.  Despite that you’ve been singing his praises for the past few days, I still overlooked him, my bad.  Of course, he’s an RFA at season’s end.  I would assume that he probably fits the signing as a depth defenseman role.  I wonder if he’d take another $600k contract.  Maybe bump him up to $800K and let him replace Ericsson on the depth chart, who we can trade for draft pick(s).

I know a lot of people don’t want to give up on Jonny Ericsson just yet, but he’s been just terrible this year.  Tollefsen is younger than Big E and has more NHL experience.  Maybe Jonny has more potential than Tollefsen, but OKT seems like he needs miles less coaching.  I lean towards keeping him, but if he’s gone, I’m not crying.  Also, if keeping him means we can’t afford a 2nd-line winger, then I say cut him loose.

JJ if they let Miller go I will never, ever forgive Kenny, Mike, or Steve.  Ever.

Miller is a battler and he’s been forced to play in situations above his skill set for most of the year.  I like his grit and determination, but he needs a lot of polish.  There’s just a lot about him that would make him a healthy scratch on my ideal Red Wings lineup most nights.  I guess we could keep him around in case there’s an injury on the 4th line, but I don’t want him near a power play or even a 2nd liner’s minutes until he can consistently get past making 65% of a really good play.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 03/05/10 at 04:28 PM ET

Ericsson was told to play defense upon coming over to the US…how feasible would it be to see him play forward for a spell during training camp?

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 03/05/10 at 04:32 PM ET

Maybe bump him up to $800K and let him replace Ericsson on the depth chart, who we can trade for draft pick(s).

J.J. for as much as we disagree on things lately.  We agree totally on this too:

I know a lot of people don’t want to give up on Jonny Ericsson just yet, but he’s been just terrible this year.  . .  Also, if keeping him means we can’t afford a 2nd-line winger, then I say cut him loose.

Wings need scoring - - wash rinse repeat.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/10 at 04:40 PM ET

If i could get greedy with my 2nd line Winger - - I’d pick one that tries to be like Homer, park ass in crease (but faster).

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 03/05/10 at 04:44 PM ET

he hasn’t had a stellar career, but he’s just the kind of solid young player the Wings frequently manage to fit right into the system and extract his full potential.

Like Ville Leino or Jonathon Ericsson, for instance.

Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 03/05/10 at 04:46 PM ET