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GDT - S.C. Finals, Game 6: Red Wings (3-2) at Penguins (2-3)  (8:00)

SCF Game 6, and the Wings have an opportunity to hoist Lord Stanley at Mellon Arena, for the second consecutive year.  No need for storylines, numbers, quotes, or anything else, the Holy Grail will be in Pittsburgh and only for the Wings.  The only question is whether Detroit will be flying high again

I’ll see you Bitches on the Hasek, and in the true faith of Kate:  Let’s Go Red Wings!!!!!

POST Season Team Stats (rank):

DET:  15-6 (w-l), .714 point% (1), 3.52 g/g (1), 2.10 ga/g (2), 1.96 5-5 f/a (1), 24.7 pp (4), 72.1 pk (14), 37.4 s/g (2), 28.5 sa/g (2), 53.2 fo% (2).

PIT:  14-8 (w-l), .636 point% (2), 3.41 g/g (2), 2.82 ga/g (9), 1.05 5-5 f/a (5), 21.3 pp (6), 82.5 pk (5), 33.3 s/g (4), 29.3 sa/g (4), 49.0 fo% (9).


PLAYOFF Player Stats:
DET Skaters:
POS Player GP G A PTS +/-  ATOI
L Henrik Zetterberg 21 11 13 24 14 22:12
C Johan Franzen 21 12 11 23 9 19:35
C Valtteri Filppula 21 3 13 16 9 17:36
R Marian Hossa 21 6 9 15 6 18:39
R Daniel Cleary 21 9 6 15 18 16:52
D Nicklas Lidstrom 19 4 10 14 10 25:37
D Brian Rafalski 16 3 9 12 11 22:16
C Jiri Hudler 21 4 7 11 2 13:45
R Mikael Samuelsson 21 5 5 10 7 15:13
C Pavel Datsyuk 14 1 8 9 6 20:10
D Brad Stuart 21 3 6 9 7 24:23
D Niklas Kronwall 21 2 7 9 6 23:22
L Tomas Holmstrom 21 2 5 7 -1 13:49
D Jonathan Ericsson 20 3 3 6 9 19:16
D Brett Lebda 21 0 6 6 9 13:38
C Darren Helm 21 4 1 5 2 12:07
L Justin Abdelkader 10 2 1 3 2 6:58
L Ville Leino 7 0 2 2 2 8:43
R Tomas Kopecky 8 0 1 1 0 9:31
L Kirk Maltby 18 0 1 1 -1 9:20
D Derek Meech 2 0 0 0 0 4:04
D Chris Chelios 6 0 0 0 0 7:21
C Kris Draper 6 0 0 0 0 9:12

DET Goalies:
Player GPI W L GAA PCT
Chris Osgood 21 15 6 2.00 0.927


PIT Skaters:
POS Player GP G A PTS +/- 
C Evgeni Malkin 22 14 21 35 2 21:03
C Sidney Crosby 22 15 16 31 10 21:26
R Bill Guerin 22 7 8 15 8 17:10
D Sergei Gonchar 20 3 11 14 3 23:01
D Kristopher Letang 21 4 9 13 3 19:29
L Chris Kunitz 22 1 12 13 2 17:05
L Ruslan Fedotenko 22 7 6 13 8 14:25
C Maxime Talbot 22 6 4 10 6 14:50
C Jordan Staal 22 3 5 8 -6 19:16
D Mark Eaton 22 4 3 7 6 18:07
C Tyler Kennedy 22 4 3 7 -4 13:41
L Matt Cooke 22 1 6 7 -3 15:05
R Miroslav Satan 16 1 5 6 2 9:55
R Craig Adams 22 3 2 5 0 9:36
D Philippe Boucher 9 1 3 4 -2 11:23
D Brooks Orpik 22 0 4 4 -1 19:56
D Rob Scuderi 22 1 2 3 1 20:27
D Hal Gill 22 0 2 2 4 0 19:26
R Petr Sykora 6 0 1 1 -3 12:49
D Alex Goligoski 2 0 1 1 -1 10:21
L Pascal Dupuis 14 0 0 0 -4 8:21

PIT Goalies:
Player GPI W L GAA PCT
Marc-Andre Fleury 22 14 8 2.76 0.904


Injury Report:
DET:
Andreas Lilja (D) Concussion (Sidelined indefinitely)
Tomas Kopecky (W/C) Eye injury (Sidelined indefinitely)
Justin Abdelkader (C/LW) Flu (Day to day)

PIT:
Mike Zigomanis (C/RW) Shoulder surgery (Remainder of season)


HOT and NOT:  

DET Hot:
Brian Rafalski (D) 3 pts in last 2 GP
Niklas Kronwall (D) 2 pts in last 3 GP
Henrik Zetterberg (C) 5 pts in last 3 GP
Johan Franzen (LW/C) 14 pts in last 14 GP
Chris Osgood (G) 5-2-0, 1.64, .941 in last 7 GPI

DET Not Hot:
Tomas Holmstrom (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Dan Cleary (LW/RW) 1 pts in last 5 GP


PIT Hot:
Kristopher Letang (D) 4 pts in last 4 GP
Evgeni Malkin (C/W) 23 pts in last 12 GP
Sidney Crosby (C) 22 pts in last 15 GP
Jordan Staal (C/LW) 2 pts in last 2 GP
Maxime Talbot (C/W) 6 pts in last 6 GP

PIT Not hot:
Miroslav Satan (RW/LW) 0 pts in last 5 GP
Bill Guerin (RW) 0 pts in last 3 GP
Chris Kunitz (LW) 1 pts in last 6 GP
Marc-Andre Fleury (G) 1-1-0, 4.39, .883 in last 2 GPI


Jeff Sagarin NHL Ratings, from USAToday.com:

To make predictions for upcoming games, simply compare the RATINGS of
the teams in question and allow an ADDITIONAL .25 goals for the home
team.  Thus, for example, a HOME team with a rating of 4.43 would be
favored by .57 goals over a VISITING team having a rating of 4.11.
Or a VISITING team with a rating of 4.56 would be favored by .42 goals
over a HOME team having a rating of 3.89

NOTE: Use whatever home advantage is listed in the output below.
In the example just above, a home edge of .25 was shown for
illustrative purposes. The home edge will vary during the season.


NHL 2008-2009 through 2009   June 6, Saturday -  finals
HOME ADVANTAGE=  0.37       RATING   W   L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 16 |  ELO_CHESS   |  PREDICTOR
1 Detroit Red Wings     =  4.96   66 37   4.05(  11)  25 16 |  35 19 |  4.91   1 |  5.03   1
5 Pittsburgh Penguins   =  4.50   59 45   4.05(  9)  22 19 |  38 31 |  4.55   4 |  4.46   5


Wings report from Monday, post-practice, via The Highlander:

Coach Mike Babcock just said that Dan Cleary will definitely play in Game 6. He also said that Pavel Datsyuk will start the game on Henrik Zetterberg’s wing. So, it looks like the same lineup as in Game 5. . .

Although he left practice early today, Kris Draper just said that he’s perfectly fine for Tuesday’s Game 6. . .

No Dan Cleary on the ice as the Red Wings just started their drills. They’re working, however, as though Cleary will play in Game 6, using Ville Leino as a placeholder. Cleary missed practice time leading into Game 5, including the morning skate, but played in the game. All the other lines are the same with Pavel Datsyuk on Henrik Zetterberg’s wing.

Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Leino
Franzen-Filppula-Hossa
Holmstrom-Helm-Samuelsson
Hudler-Draper-Maltby

Lidstrom-Rafalski
Kronwall-Stuart
Lebda-Ericsson

Osgood
Conklin

 


Ken Holland beleives it is Henrik Zetterberg’s talent and will that is the difference in shutting down Crosby, from Mike G. Morreale, NHL.com:

Detroit Red Wings General Manager Ken Holland pondered and then smiled when asked about the star-powered matchup between Henrik Zetterberg and Pittsburgh’s Sidney Crosby in the Stanley Cup Final. It’s been a classic confrontation and, as it stands right now, Holland’s guy is winning the battle.

Zetterberg, deemed worn down by some Pens players just two days ago, has not only posted two goals and six points in five games against Pittsburgh, but has played a huge part in limiting Crosby to a mere mortal-like goal and two assists. Crosby entered this best-of-7 Stanley Cup Final series with 14 goals in 17 games.

“Sid is going to get his points, but it’s just a matter of limiting the damage and Henrik has done just that,” Holland said. “The thing I love about Henrik is that he not only has talent but incredible will.” . . .

You can have skill, but if you don’t have will and determination it’s pretty tough to advance,” Holland said. “At the end of the day, it was will that got us through the Anaheim series with the amount of injuries we had and knowing how mentally tough they were. We found a way to get through that series and I think our will allowed us to get through the Chicago series.”

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CaptainDennisPolonich's avatar

Jeff, thanks for stellar efforts all season long.

I must quibble though with Cleary being classified as not hot. His goal sparked this team in game five and got the ball rolling.

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 06/09/09 at 09:53 AM ET

MOWingsfan19's avatar

Thanks again Okie.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/09/09 at 10:07 AM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

I agree Paul, I’ve mentioned, more than once, that I’m not sure the TSN people actually “watch” the games—they may just look at the numbers.

thanks for the kind words—you too MO—hitting the cages today, I assume.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/09/09 at 10:10 AM ET

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Yeah MO, please hit the cages with the little guy. Take a whole roll of quarters if you have to. Did I just date myself? Do batting cage machines still take quarters?

Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 06/09/09 at 10:14 AM ET

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Jeff, thank you once again for a great job. But I hope to holy hell that I don’t have to see another GDT until October. No offense taken, I am utterly sure.

Posted by Bella on 06/09/09 at 10:28 AM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

But I hope to holy hell that I don’t have to see another GDT until October. No offense taken, I am utterly sure.

Posted by Bella on 06/09/09 at 11:28 AM ET

Amen, Bella.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/09/09 at 10:34 AM ET

Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit's avatar

But I hope to holy hell that I don’t have to see another GDT until October. No offense taken, I am utterly sure.

Posted by Bella on 06/09/09 at 11:28 AM ET


Thank You Jeff.  Reading the game day numbers takes away a few minutes of stressing. Bella, right on.


Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 06/09/09 at 10:37 AM ET

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Do batting cage machines still take quarters?

Tokens, $1.50 for 20 pitches. I burn $10 every trip there, at least 50-100 swings a day…. and I’ll be headed there tonight so long as the weather holds out.
FWIW, little dude’s team finished the regular season last night.  9-2-1. Tied for #1, 227 runs for, 128 runs against in 12 games. We beat every team in our division at least once.. so we start the tourney #1 overall. VERY gratifying for a new team that was told by more than one coach of other teams that we didn’t belong in the “competitive league” and should have been in the “recreational league”.
Heh.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/09/09 at 10:40 AM ET

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Thanks, again, Jeff.
Great work.

GO WINGS!!!

1 to 12

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 06/09/09 at 10:44 AM ET

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Does anyone else feel like the playoffs have been going on for about the last six months?

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/09/09 at 11:01 AM ET

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*kneels*

OK, God, I know it’s been a while.

While I appreciate you getting the Hawks deep into the playoffs this year, and I know you’re not expecting this sort of thing from the Greater Chicagoland Area, still…

Let me have one, just ONE, closeup of Cindy crying tonight.

Oh, and can a bruvva get into the “Blogs The Chief Likes”?

Amen. Oh, and thanks for Keeley Hazell. Nice work you did there.

Posted by Forklift from Section 314 in the United Center on 06/09/09 at 11:05 AM ET

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Does anyone else feel like the playoffs have been going on for about the last six months?

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/09/09 at 12:01 PM ET

Definitely.  The stress is taking its toll. 

BTW, my better half would agree whole-heartedly with your statement Ms. B.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/09/09 at 11:09 AM ET

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The Highlander reports from the morning skate:

The Red Wings are on the ice right now for an optional morning skate. Pavel Datsyuk and Kris Draper are out there. Several regulars—all of whom are expected to play—aren’t—Zetterberg, Filppula, Cleary, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart.

The Penguins’ had a full skate with everyone on the ice.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/09/09 at 11:11 AM ET

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Does anyone else feel like the playoffs have been going on for about the last six months?

Yes, me!  It really does feel like that at this point, doesn’t it?

Jeff, thank you once again for a great job. But I hope to holy hell that I don’t have to see another GDT until October. No offense taken, I am utterly sure.

I would echo that sentiment as well.  Jeff, thank you so much for putting these posts together for us.

Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 06/09/09 at 11:11 AM ET

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George at Snapshots reports that Sykora may play for the Pens tonight:

And, according to oodles of Twitter feed comments from MacLeod, USA Today’s Kevin Allen, the Sporting News’s Craig Custance, etc., the Penguins may dress Petr Sykora, who will take the pre-game skate, tonight.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/09/09 at 11:13 AM ET

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Does anyone else feel like the playoffs have been going on for about the last six months?

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/09/09 at 12:01 PM ET

Yep. I know my hair is thinner & grayer than during the Winter Classic.
(Was that 01/01/09 or 01/01/08? Seems like a loooooonnnnggg time ago ... )

GO WINGS!!!

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 06/09/09 at 11:13 AM ET

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I just want Conklin to be able to hoist the Cup tonight in Pittsburgh.

Posted by clups from Eugene, OR on 06/09/09 at 11:21 AM ET

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Nice work on the season Jeff. 

It’s only lunch time and I can’t sit still. Not a good state of mind for detail work.

Damnit, is it 8pm yet?

Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 06/09/09 at 11:22 AM ET

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Bylsma saying Sykora is a game time decision for them again tonight.
I’ll never forgive that little prick for calling his double OT winner to the DC last year.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/09/09 at 11:23 AM ET

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Good stuff Jeff. 

Thanks for stepping up this season and presenting the Game Day stats with flair.

Posted by Rumbear from Top O da Hasek, sippin rum & catchin some rays on 06/09/09 at 11:29 AM ET

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Let me have one, just ONE, closeup of Cindy crying tonight.

If you want to see Crosby cry, just watch him during stoppages of any game he plays in…

Posted by Primis on 06/09/09 at 11:50 AM ET

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Didn’t the Wings draft Petr Sykora?

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/09 at 11:52 AM ET

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Maybe it was a different Petr Sykora

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/09 at 11:55 AM ET

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Oh, and can a bruvva get into the “Blogs The Chief Likes”?

When he gets around to it, I’m sure.  You already know he likes you.

Have a great offseason - and best of luck next year.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/09/09 at 11:57 AM ET

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The Devils drafted him.

Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 06/09/09 at 11:57 AM ET

pgoody's avatar

Well I remember looking through a list of draft picks for the Wings a while back and they drafted a Petr Sykora in 1997.

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/09 at 11:59 AM ET

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Here it is:


http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr000034.html


Scroll down to the year 1997

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/09 at 12:01 PM ET

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Uncle Mike’s game day presser, from the KK Main page:

Q. Why do you think it is under these circumstances your team steps up when they have an opportunity to close out a team?

COACH BABCOCK: Yeah, I don’t have the answer to that. But we had a chance to close out teams last year in Game 5 at home a couple of times and didn’t do it. So I think we’re going to be prepared tonight. I really believe that. I think we’re going to play a good game. You want it to go your way. There are no guarantees.

But I just think with the leadership we have, the experience we have, and just the overall skill level of our group, and as long as he we stick to our plan, we have an opportunity.

As Kate says, Uncle Mike always has a plan.

Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/09/09 at 12:02 PM ET

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Thanks Jeff.  Calms the nerves just a bit.

Does anyone else feel like the playoffs have been going on for about the last six months?

Or more.

Tried to take the little man to a movie today as a distraction but he must be feeling the anxiety too.  He wasn’t having it.  Think we’re going to run as long as he will sit and as far as my body will let me today.  Although it won’t be far enough to relax.

Can I say once again how glad I am that I found you guys?  I don’t know a) why it never occurred to me to look in the last several years or b) how I would get through this without fellow insane fans.

Posted by jennyquarx on 06/09/09 at 12:04 PM ET

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So my buddy Alan told me I needed to come over here to play. After reading a few of the blogs (not too mention the Glossary - gots to do your research), I have to agree. As an introduction, my thoughts on tonight’s game:

I hope the Wings make EVERYONE in that building cry tonight…precious Sidney and the rest of those tools, the fans, Gary Bettman, Pierre McGuire and the rest of the douche canoes at VS/NBC/NHL Network (Larry Murphy exempted of course). I wanna see big fat raindrops rolling down crest-fallen faces when #81 skates that shiny chalice all over that shitty Igloo ice. I want it bad. And I want it to hurt 100 times more than it did last year as punishment for their audacity in thinking they were good enough to skate on the same ice as the Wings and then having the gall to actually try and do it.

Posted by wngzie on 06/09/09 at 12:05 PM ET

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Seven more hours. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Posted by Bella on 06/09/09 at 12:15 PM ET

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Posted by wngzie on 06/09/09 at 01:05 PM ET

Welcome wngzie.  You seem to be a natural fit.

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 06/09/09 at 12:39 PM ET

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Well I remember looking through a list of draft picks for the Wings a while back and they drafted a Petr Sykora in 1997.

Yes, those of us in EHM circles call him “Petr Sykora the Lesser”.

We used to do the same for the Alex Picards.  Now we can’t, because it’d be confusing as to which one is actually the “lesser”...

Posted by Primis on 06/09/09 at 01:12 PM ET

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Oh and incidentally, soon people should be talking about that 2002 draft.

Jiri Hudler
Tomas Fleischman (playing in WAS)
Val Filppula
Derek Meech
Jonny Ericsson

Posted by Primis on 06/09/09 at 01:16 PM ET

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I just want Conklin to be able to hoist the Cup tonight in Pittsburgh.

Posted by clups from Eugene, OR on 06/09/09 at 12:21 PM ET

The entire state of New Hampshire is hoping for the same thing.

Posted by HockeyJoe from Upstate New York on 06/09/09 at 01:24 PM ET

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Does anyone else feel like the playoffs have been going on for about the last six months?

At least. It’s really starting to take its toll on me. So I’ve made a decision about tonight’s game: I’m not going to watch it.

I just can’t bear to watch or listen to NBC or CBC describe this game to me. It’s too big and I’m too f*cking fragile right now. I’m man enough to admit that.

I can’t listen to Mike Emrick. His voice is like a dentist’s drill in my brain. I can’t listen to him use any more variations of the verb “foist”. I can’t listen to Pierre McGuire use the term “Edzo” anymore, nor can I endure “Edzo’s” coma-inducing commentary. And I’m sick of looking at Mike Milbury’s f*cking face.

I can’t abide Don Cherry and Ron McLean’s dominant/submissive S&M love affair anymore. I want to put P.J. Stock into a f*cking rocket and fire him into the heart of the sun. And I can’t bear to listen to any more fantastical what-if scenarios regarding the possible second team in southern Ontario, as if that’s somehow going to make everything right in the Canadian hockey universe.

So here’s the plan: I’m going into my garage around 7:45 with a fifth of Powers, a couple of emergency cigarettes, and a portable radio. I’m going to listen to Ken and Paul tonight. It’s the only thing that will keep the police and/or medics from having to shoot me with a tranquilizer dart.

I can’t say when I’ll emerge, but depending on the outcome of this series, it may not be until sometime around Flag Day. I may be sleeping on bags of mulch and eating spiders and grubs for the next week. I may kill and eat a dog. I may go Colonel Kurtz and rule over the local mountain tribe. Anything’s possible.

Sh*t’s about to get crazy.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/09/09 at 01:25 PM ET

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If you need me, I’ll be handing Dominik Hasek new flyswatters as he asks for them.

Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/09/09 at 01:27 PM ET

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With Detroit, Anaheim, Chicago and (if they stop choking) San Jose in the west, the guys at Mellon better start investing in giant foam “we’re #2” fingers.

Prediction from a Ducks homer: the guy drafted after Thid wins more cups than him.

Posted by Bleys on 06/09/09 at 01:32 PM ET

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Mandingo, that may be the greatest post in the history of the Internets.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/09/09 at 01:37 PM ET

Jeff  OKWingnut's avatar

As slow as the minutes are dragging by today, and as tense as I’ve become about tonights game; I strangely feel quite good. 

I know, ignorance is bliss; and maybe it is just that.

For some reason I am thinking that if the Wings can get the lead; we may see a repeat of game 5. 

I have no reason whatsoever to think that the “young Pens” can play well-enough under the pressure packed situation they are in.  Sure Guerin has been there before.  But the Pens have not “won” when faced with this type of heat. 

Wings get the lead, they’ll all be thinking “here we go again”. 

What sort of character did they show in game 5?  Case closed.

Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 06/09/09 at 01:39 PM ET

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Prediction from a Ducks homer: the guy drafted after Thid wins more cups than him.

Posted by Bleys on 06/09/09 at 02:32 PM ET

Is that Bobby Ryan?  Nice young player.  I have to confess, I’m hopign he does very, very well - if for not other reason than that Kevin Lowe ripping on him was classless and pointless.  It looks like keeping him in the minors for salary cap reasons will work out to his advantage, long-term.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/09/09 at 01:42 PM ET

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Kurtz: “Are my methods unsound?”

Willard: “I don’t see any method, at all, sir.”

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/09 at 01:44 PM ET

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Should we be so fortunate as to prevail tonight,(hows that for humility?),I wonder how fast the conventional wisdom will change from “You have to lose a Cup, before you can win a Cup” to “you have to lose 2 Cups before…....”

Posted by dougie on 06/09/09 at 01:49 PM ET

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I can’t listen to Pierre McGuire use the term “Edzo” anymore, nor can I endure “Edzo’s” coma-inducing commentary

We get to listen to this penisloaf for 82 games a year, with the added bonus of playoffs now…while his douchebaggery is definitely amped up for National broadcast, it still gets really tiresome.

Which is why whenever I have an article on The Committed Indian, the picture I use is me with my arm around Edzo, and his not being able to contain his disgust. It is my favorite picture in the history of ever - better than my one with Don Ho or the one with Brian Wilson.

Posted by Forklift from Section 314 in the United Center on 06/09/09 at 01:52 PM ET

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Should we be so fortunate as to prevail tonight,(hows that for humility?),I wonder how fast the conventional wisdom will change from “You have to lose a Cup, before you can win a Cup” to “you have to lose 2 Cups before…....”

I think we’re already there. The Edmonton Journal had one of their rocket scientist writers talk about the Penguins Dynasty a few days ago.

Red Wings’ success does strange things to people… puts them right into gasoline-sniffing-punk territory.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/09/09 at 01:52 PM ET

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Penguins Dynasty? Thats like saying my summer softball team is a dynasty

Posted by pgoody on 06/09/09 at 01:56 PM ET

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Willard: “The machinist, the one they called Chef, was from New Orleans. He was wrapped too tight for Vietnam, probably wrapped too tight for New Orleans. Lance on the forward 50’s was a famous surfer from the beaches south of LA. You look at him and you wouldn’t believe he ever fired a weapon in his whole life. Clean, Mr. Clean, was from some South Bronx sh*thole. Light and space of Vietnam really put the zap on his head. Then there was Phillips, the Chief. It might have been my mission, but it sure as sh*t was Chief’s boat.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/09/09 at 02:02 PM ET

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(camera pans to Pens bench after National Anthem, as the team takes seats to start the game)


Edzo: “I like what I see out of this Pittsburgh team, Doc!”

Doc: “How so?”

Edzo: “The energy. The energy and the focus. They just seem to…have it”

DC: “I have to agree, Edzo, good call. Did you see how that team sat on that bench?? Beaten teams DON’T SIT LIKE THAT!!”

Edzo: “Well, I agree, Pierre. There’s sitting on a bench, and then there’s sitting on a bench, and right now NO ONE does it better than this Pittsburgh Penguins team!”

Doc: “Scuderi shifts, almost motionless, to make room for the 207th overall pick in the 1993 NHL draft, six-foot-five Bolton Massachusetts native Hal Gill”

Edzo: “It’s…just…stuff like that, Doc, stuff like that tells me this Penguins team is a team of destiny”

Doc: “Methodically, Malkin hands Crosby the water bottle, reaching in front of Bill Guerin, yet doing so with amazing ease”

DC: “Poise, poise and patience”

Edzo: “Well, I agree, Pierre”

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/09/09 at 02:03 PM ET

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Which is why whenever I have an article on The Committed Indian, the picture I use is me with my arm around Edzo, and his not being able to contain his disgust. It is my favorite picture in the history of ever - better than my one with Don Ho or the one with Brian Wilson.

Posted by Forklift from Out by the grill on 06/09/09 at 02:52 PM ET


Hee-hee.

I understand where “Committed Indian” comes from, but I also love that it makes it sound like hockey fans belong in an institution.  It’s a non-sexual double entendre.  smile

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/09/09 at 02:06 PM ET

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Posted by Red Winger from The Soo on 06/09/09 at 03:03 PM ET

Effing. Hilarious.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/09/09 at 02:12 PM ET

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Welcome to Abel to Yzerman, a Red Wing blog since 1977.  No other site on the internet has better-researched, fact-laden and better prepared discussions than A2Y.  Re-phrase: we do little research, find facts and stats highly overrated and claim little to no preparation.  There are 19 readers of A2Y. No more, no less. All of them, except maybe one, are juvenile in nature.  Reminding them of that in the comment section will only encourage them to prove that. Your suggestions and critiques are welcome: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

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