Kukla's Korner

Abel to Yzerman

Next entry: Effective Message Management

Previous entry: "Garcia had long hair and makeup and was wearing an Avalanche jersey..."

Grigorenko On Second Line With Datsyuk?

That appears to be what an optimistic organ-I-zation would like to see this fall.  Jim Nill spoke with nhl.com’s John McGourty about Grigorenko and a few other prospects.

“We think he’ll be a really good second-line guy that might suit Datsyuk. He has the potential to be a star, but it’s one day at a time to start. For instance, if we want him to go to the minors to catch up with the speed, how does he accept that? It won’t do him any good to struggle up here and not play much. A lot of Europeans don’t respect the AHL, but four weeks in the minors might be the best way to get up to NHL speed.”

More

Filed in: | Abel to Yzerman | Permalink
 

Comments

     

Avatar

Hmm...a guy who has never played a single NHL game, who failed miserably in the AHL, and who has REGRESSED since being drafted is now being asked to come to a new continent with a completely foreign language and fill a scoring line role on a team expected to win the division and contend for the Cup, that has absolutely no plan B in case he fails...yeah, that’s not a recipe for disaster or anything.

Posted by Thomas on 07/19/07 at 05:16 PM ET

Avatar

Hey, Thomas, stick to what you know...which, apparently is nothing! Igor has never played in the AHL. And I doubt his lack of familiarity with the English language will severely handicap him on a line with Datsyuk.

Man, are all Avs fans this dense? Okay, just checking, I already know the answer to that.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids on 07/19/07 at 05:32 PM ET

Avatar

Personal attacks? How surprising.

You’re right, he never played in the AHL. My mistake. Doesn’t change my point in the slightest.

Oh, and playing on a line with Datsyuk doesn’t make it any easier for him to go out and get a meal on an off day, or get his dry cleaning done or call the cable company when he has a problem.

*shakes head*

Wings fans.

Posted by Thomas on 07/19/07 at 06:22 PM ET

Avatar

You’re right, he never played in the AHL. My mistake. Doesn’t change my point in the slightest.

That’s alright, Thomas. As an Avs fan, you should never let the facts get in the way of your fantasy.

As for Igor, the guy will make $858,000 this season. So, getting a meal (with Pavel by his side) or getting his dry cleaning done will definitely be a problem. Yup! No doubt about it. He’s doomed to fail.

Maybe you should spend your time worrying about just making the playoffs this year.

Posted by OlderThanChelios from Grand Rapids on 07/19/07 at 06:49 PM ET

George James Malik's avatar

Ah, yes, the, “I’m bored!” troll. 

Igor Grigorenko’s been to North America before, back in 04, he’s 24 now and is bound and determined to overcome the language issues and cultural adjustment to playing in the NHL for a team with extensive experience in successfully bringing European players over to North America, and, at this point, he’s supposed to be at 90-95% of his previous “bona-fide superstar” level of play.

And if he doesn’t play well and goes home, the Wings are out $100K and can put Zetterberg and Datsyuk back together. 

The Wings are well aware of the fact that in Russia, the team provides everything from housing and transportation to utilities and sometimes even food, and they’ve got both a few Russian-speakers on staff and will make sure Grigorenko has a translator/assistant who can help him learn what he needs to know to get around town, go grocery shopping, set up a bank account, etc. etc.

It’s not a recipe for disaster, nor is it a sure bet.  If Grigs struggles and doesn’t want to go to the AHL, the Wings are out $150K and put Zetterberg and Datsyuk back together.  It’ll be really cool if he does succeed, and if he doesn’t, Nill said it himself--it’s a two-month trial, and if he wants to go back to Russia, the Red Wings will adjust accordingly.

Posted by George James Malik from South Lyon, MI on 07/19/07 at 07:12 PM ET

Avatar

Tell you Avs fans what:  You can have Smyth’s 40 goals and his 7 mil deal and we’ll take Grigorenko’s 15-20 goals and 858k deal.

Then, in three years when Smyth is scoring only 20 goals, you can complain about having to pay him 7 mil to stink.

Posted by HockeyinHD on 07/20/07 at 09:41 AM ET

Avatar

You’re right, he never played in the AHL. My mistake. Doesn’t change my point in the slightest.

LOL

the basis of his point is completely false, but it doesn’t change his point.  hilarious.

Posted by Paul from Miami Beach on 07/20/07 at 03:18 PM ET

     

Add a Comment

Please limit embedded image or media size to 575 pixels wide.

Add your own avatar by joining Kukla's Korner, or logging in and uploading one in your member control panel.

Captchas bug you? Join KK or log in and you won't have to bother.

Name:

Email: (optional)

Location:

URL:

Smileys

Remember my personal information

Notify me of follow-up comments?

Submit the word you see below:


Feed

Most Recent Blog Posts

About Abel to Yzerman

Welcome to Abel to Yzerman, a Red Wing blog since 1977.  No other site on the internet has better-researched, fact-laden and better prepared discussions than A2Y.  Re-phrase: we do little research, find facts and stats highly overrated and claim little to no preparation.  There are 19 readers of A2Y. No more, no less. All of them, except maybe one, are juvenile in nature.  Reminding them of that in the comment section will only encourage them to prove that. Your suggestions and critiques are welcome:

A2Y Stuff

-----------------------------

Wanna Feel Smart?

Does confusion make you sad? When you read words like "enigma" and phrases like "Thanks Gary. Ass", do you wonder why mean people speak in languages you don't understand? Fret no longer friend! The A2Y Glossary will bring you great joy and enlightenment.

-----------------------------

How Others View The A2Y 19

"Hell, I guarantee the content co-opters at Abel to Yzerman were about to link this article under the heading “Bitter Blues Fans” again right up until they just read that last half-sentance. Thanks but no thanks, you Kukla hangers-on."
--St. Louis Game Time

"I realize it’s the slow summer season, but can this guy tone down the tough-guy histrionics? His posts are fatiguing on an otherwise excellent site."
--A2Y Fan, Eternal_Fields

"I constantly marvel at how Bill (IwoCPO) and his disciples at Abel To Yzerman can be so pompous and full of themselves throughout every regular season, but come playoff time they collapse into wavering puddles of stress and nervousness as they anxiously await the impending and unavoidable collapse of the Red Wings in the post-season."
--Mile High Hockey

"I hate them because they are better than us. Of all the frigging teams…"
--In The Cheap Seats

"It's just a shame that the most classless, uneducated, lowbrow fanbase in the league gets this sweep. Red Wing fans don't deserve their team."
--Thhom

"I really don’t care what fans or bloggers think."
--Drew Sharp

"Why is it you Detroit fans are still so classless when you have such a classy hockey team, with such a professional GM and gentlemen players? I understand that the author of this blog is a manner-less cad, but the rest of you should be better."
--A2Y Fan, Jeff Beaumont

"Have you ever *read* A2Y? Its the most opinionated, juvenile stuff i've read."
--Paul Nicholson

"I actually like the Detroit team and have a sh&% load of respect for them, but their fans are the biggest douches next to Canadians."
--KStewy, PensBlog Commenter

"Just when it looks like we have bottomed out, the 19 hit a new low."
-A2Y legend, Hockeytown Todd

"And for the record, I don't hate the Red Wings, I hate their fans."
--Douche Bag at Puck Daddy who isn't Wyshynski

"You’re nothing but a douchebag ****, c3po. Go f**k yourself, and learn something about hockey in the process. Nothing ruins my day more than seeing your byline on the kk page."
--Hector, A2Y fan, statesman, Pittsburgh Chapter of Jonas Brothers Fan Club President

"I can just imagine the kindergarten teacher’s reaction when the tyke blurts out 'Mommy says Gary Bettman is a f*cking f*ckface! He wants to give ‘Rosby the bad touch.' ”
--Bella, of the 19

"A2Y is what other blog sites aspire to be when they fail to grow up: intelligent immaturity for the juvenile genius set”
--Captain Dennis Polonich, of the 19

Head to Hockeytown

Blogs the Chief Likes

Archives