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by IwoCPO on 05/13/08 at 02:54 PM ET
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So we’ve heard from a Digger and MacLeod today, each with roughly the same story.
Franzen underwent tests in Detroit Monday, and Nill hadn’t heard any news regarding results. He said the decision not to play Franzen tomorrow has already been made because the Wings lead the series, 3-0.
General manager Ken Holland said that the tests found nothing that needed treatment.
But Franzen’s headaches persist, so he’ll have to rest until they subside. He’s not able to work on conditioning (bike, etc) right now.
Franzen is officially listed as day-to-day.
So tests came back, showing no signs of a concussion. Is that reason to breathe easy? Maybe. But definitely not for certain.
In fact, it makes me a little more nervous than I was this morning. If not a concussion, then what causes a professional athlete, a frigging specimen, to have consistent headaches? You’d better believe that’s the question floating around the executive offices of the Joe right now.
No concussion? Good to hear. Now we wait for the other shoe to drop.
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does “nothing that needs treatment” mean “no concussion”? I don’t think so. is there any “treatment” for concussion besides rest?
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 05/13/08 at 03:15 PM ET
Ah, bummer. Comment got lost.
Basically, what I said was that before we start to worry for Franzen and his family, like with some sort of brain tumor and whatnot, remember, it’s the playoffs.
Logic would dictate that this is your typical playoff-time injury smoke-screen. They know damn well he has a concussion or post-concussion syndrome, they are just saying he doesn’t and then pleading ignorance.
Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 05/13/08 at 03:17 PM ET
my thoughts exactly, PMB.
I’m having images of a Lindros getting carried off the ice after a nasty Stevens hit right now. Is there a seat in the Hasek left?
Posted by disch from bat country on 05/13/08 at 03:20 PM ET
Before anyone starts to think it’s a brain tumor or a blood clot, there are a lot of much less serious things that can cause persistent headaches.
He might have something as benign as an allergy - and they can develop after long exposure without problems. I had a friend in college who had been eating dairy her entire life and had no problems, and over a period of about three weeks she wound up getting headaches if she ate yogurt or cheese. No yogurt or cheese, she was fine. An annoyance but nothing more. Took her some time to figure out what it was, though, because she just figured it was stress.
I doubt it’s actually a concussion - they would just say so in that case, and he wouldn’t be back on the ice until he was fine. It isn’t like a broken finger that he could play with anyway and would be hidden so no one could whack it. Whether it’s a concussion or just a headache of unknown cause, the end result is the same.
Now if they are hiding a shoulder injury and calling it a “headache,” that would make more sense - from an injury-lie standpoint.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 05/13/08 at 03:27 PM ET
When Holland said the tests found nothing that needed treatment, he means there is nothing that requires surgery. He did not say there was no concussion.
Unfortunately, Franzen will not be allowed to play for 7 days after he can exercize without headaches.
See: “When to return to play”
for a grade 2 concussion:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/pub-res/tbi_toolkit/physicians/concussion_sports.htm#grades
Posted by w2j2 on 05/13/08 at 03:30 PM ET
This sure smells like post-concussion syndrome…the differential diagnosis on headache is about as long as an ore boat (can’t get that song outta’ my head lately…), but the line about “no treatment” leads my assumptions in the direction of post-concussion.
So, we’re in for a variable course of recovery with the Mujle (Swedish spelling). My gut says that if a trip to the finals is on the docket, as long as he knows which skate goes on which foot, he plays, headache be damned.
Posted by VikingDoc from Ohio on 05/13/08 at 03:41 PM ET
Differential diagnosis? Given the recent history of injury reports from the Organ-I-Zation can you really rule out “Groin Injury”?
I’m just asking…..
Posted by Rumbear from Victory Station on 05/13/08 at 03:50 PM ET
Not like the old days. The Captain won’t be going in the trainers room and dragging Feds to his feet.
Post concussion is what it is. Can be around for a few days, weeks, months…..
IF Kenny’s telling the whole truth & nothing but the truth. Here’s to hoping we get our Mule back.
I telling you, he got the “FLU” from 3 or 4 or maybe some bad Turkey….
Posted by MOWingsfan19 from KC MO on 05/13/08 at 03:50 PM ET
Poor Franzen. He must be disappointed to be out for a bit when he was playing so well.
Guess Datsyuk and Zetterberg will have to pick up the slack. I think they’re more than capable!
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 05/13/08 at 04:46 PM ET
Maybe he got bit by some big nasty bug down in Nashville.
Hell, maybe DC bit him on the back of the neck and gave him an inflated ego, thus putting pressure on the part of the brain that doles out logic.
That’s it…he has PMS (Pierre Maguire Syndrome!)
Posted by Scott H from Kalamazoo on 05/13/08 at 05:21 PM ET
I spose if there’s any silver lining to a potential 12-day layoff before the SCF, the increased odds of getting Mule back in the lineup is a preetty good one…
Posted by mudshark from Divetown, Colorado on 05/13/08 at 06:01 PM ET
Oy, vey…
This is really simple, guys.
Player has persistent symptoms that could be concussion-related.
NHL team does what it does—they run his baseline neurological tests, they have him get a CT scan and/or an MRI, talk to a neurologist and/or concussion specialist, and then he can’t engage in any physical activity for a week, regardless of whether he’s got a concussion, no concussion, or Lugar, the King of the galactic colony of brain-burrowing space wombats is in his head.
It’s that simple. Headaches = neurological tests, CT/MRI, examination, and no physical activity for a week. He will be reevaluated next Monday, and until that time, he and Lugar will have to get along.
Posted by George Malik from South Lyon, MI on 05/13/08 at 07:16 PM ET
Scott.
Thats funny. Pierre is little bitch. He reminds me of Drew Remenada, another one I can’t handle.
Posted by MOWingsFan19 from KC MO on 05/13/08 at 08:22 PM ET
watching some of the Pens/Flyers game, and man am I glad we didn’t get these Versus announcers.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 05/13/08 at 08:25 PM ET
some stats…
Zetterberg (18) leads Malkin (17) in playoff points. 9 goals and 9 assists to Malkin’s 8 goals and 9 assists. (not counting tonights Pens/Flyers game)
Datsyuk and Crosby are actually tied for second with Malkin. Datsyuk with 8 goals and 9 assists, and Crosby with 4 goals and 13 assists.
Franzen is next, with 12 goals and 3 assists.
Franzen and Zetterberg are #1 and #2 in goals, with Umberger and Malkin at #3 and #4, and Datsyuk bringing up the rear at #5.
The +/- leaders are, from first to fourth, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, and Franzen at +13, 11, 10, and 9 respectively. Umberger from Philly is tied with Franzen and Rafalski.
Franzen is first in PP goals with 5, tied with Briere.
Osgood has a 1.47 GAA and .935 save percentage.
Turco is at 2.09 and .917. Turco is 8-7. Osgood, of course, is 9-0.
just for kicks, Hasek is stuck at a 2.91 GAA and .888 save percentage.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 05/13/08 at 08:56 PM ET
just for kicks, Hasek is stuck at a 2.91 GAA and .888 save percentage.
Ouch..CMOI has headaches too.
Posted by Scott H from Kalamazoo on 05/13/08 at 11:04 PM ET
It’s partly cut off here but I call for a caption contest!
I’ll start:
—Daddy Ref: “Pav! You made Marty doo doo himself again!”
—Can someone tell Marty that “head up your ass” is just an expression? He keeps saying he can feel it up there.
And of course…
TIMMAYYY!
Posted by Osrt on 05/14/08 at 01:51 AM ET
from the Detroit News…
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080514/OPINION03/805140321/1128/SPORTS0103
Osgood a Hall of Fame goalie?
decent article to read. the two fans mentioned are on the fence, but think he won’t make it.
then I read this in the next article:
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080514/SPORTS0103/805140373/1128/SPORTS0103
He’s still 76 victories short of Sawchuk’s franchise mark of 352, but with Monday’s Game 3 victory he’s surprised to find himself tied with Sawchuk for the club record of 47 career playoff victories.
...
With a victory tonight Osgood would break another record he shares with Sawchuk, notching his 10th consecutive playoff victory. Osgood won nine in a row in a span of two playoffs—in 1998 and ‘99—while Sawchuk did the same thing in 1952 and ‘53.
...
Also, with his next shutout, Osgood will tie Sawchuk for ninth place on the NHL’s all-time playoff list with 12 in his career.
how in the hell does he not make the Hall of Fame?
this was interesting…
The NHL record for the longest streak in a single playoff season belongs to Patrick Roy , who won 11 in a row with Montreal in 1993.
think Osgood knows this? with a win tonight, all he’d have to do is win the first two games of the SCF in Detroit to break this record. doesn’t seem that far out of reach, does it? how sweet would that be?!
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 05/14/08 at 07:04 AM ET
Heh heh…the guy, from the Foster article…
His name is Arreola.
Posted by Matt from Chicago on 05/14/08 at 08:54 AM ET
Paul,
I have no idea why, but I agree Oz will be left outside looking in.
Like Dino not being in, but Bernie “I can’t stand to listen to” Federko is.
UGH, even worse we shipped Oates out in that blunder.
Ok, back to the present…...
5 and counting.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 05/14/08 at 02:03 PM ET
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