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Ready, Set, Vomit: Down Goes Cleary
by IwoCPO on 12/10/09 at 04:55 AM ET
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So, I guess this statement from Mike Babcock last night…
“...it’s very obvious we don’t have a lot of natural goal scorers…”
...goes hand-in-hand with this refreshing ditty from Tick Tock Kenny Holland.
“He’s probably out awhile,” general manager Ken Holland said, “but I don’t know long awhile is.”
Yep, he’s talking about our boy Charlie Buckets (link to the glossary).
Speaking of Tick Tock. Just a heads-up, and this may conflict with Gary’s CBA, but the trade deadline doesn’t mean you’re restricted to trading only on trade deadline day. It’s the last day you’re allowed to trade.
So, you know, if you wanted to get creative and maybe text some of your BFFs, maybe get us a, I don’t know, goal scorer? That would be neat. Thanks.
Because ours are all injured (Cleary, Franzen, Fil, Williams) or in some sort of funk that has them sad, snake-bit and whiskey-dicked (Datsyuk, Son of Sam, Lidstrom).
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Once we deplete the Griffins of their talent (almost there already) we can always tap into the AA system.
What, me worry?
*vomit*
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 12/10/09 at 05:20 AM ET
Once we deplete the Griffins of their talent (almost there already) we can always tap into the AA system.
What, me worry?
*vomit*
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 12/10/09 at 05:20 AM ET
Your responsibilities as bartender aboard the Hasek are becoming more critical every day. I hope you’re up to the task Voox.
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 12/10/09 at 05:22 AM ET
Tatar?
or our boy Muršak?
probably not
Posted by Edillac from jesenice,europe on 12/10/09 at 05:23 AM ET
Your responsibilities as bartender aboard the Hasek are becoming more critical every day. I hope you’re up to the task Voox.
I may be failing miserably as I have been getting excessively high on my own supply this season. I have undertaken a project to reclaim the alcohol from the vomit spewed aboard the Hasek. Initial attempts taste like Olde English malt liquor. So far only Osrt can drink the stuff.
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car on 12/10/09 at 05:31 AM ET
Somehow my dog knew this late in the game last night, when he vomited with no warning.
Posted by dougie on 12/10/09 at 05:48 AM ET
Can I write the word *#$%@& here?
Meh, I’ll do it anyway. *#$%@&!
Now I feel like completely shit. I want a goal scorer. I want one now!
Posted by Andy from FightNight from Oslo, Norway on 12/10/09 at 05:55 AM ET
This season simply sucks, i watched San Jose the other night and for the first time there was a sense of envy, naturaly i bitch slapped myself stupid for the next 30 mins after comitting such a sin but with Charlie out we are even more screwed than before.
In Tick Tock we trust!!
Posted by Better_Than_Life from UK on 12/10/09 at 06:07 AM ET
I’m happy that “buckets” is plural, I get this nauseating feeling I will be vomiting most of this season, uh-oh, I feel it coming up !!bblllllaaaaaacccccchhhhhhhh…...ooh.
Posted by gunnar from Ada, MI on 12/10/09 at 06:34 AM ET
there will be no buying of outside help I hope
pure goal scorers from GR,even if they are kids,for 10, games it wont kill anyone
and someone please help Datsyuk,maybe a sports shrink?
Posted by Edillac from jesenice,europe on 12/10/09 at 06:48 AM ET
The really, really most painful part of this mess called the 09-10 season???It’s the pleasure, the joy these evil bast**ds take in beating us while we are down. Well, imagine someone walking past an injured animal , which is trying it’s hardest to get to the side of the road with a busted up hind end. This someone then drags him back into the road to get hit again. We are hurtin’, bitches, we are down, and there is not a sliver of mercy out there for the Late Great Detroit Red Wings. Just kicks, and beatings, and spitting, and cursing. Yet, my love for the Winged Wheel sweater somehow, magically, is growing.
Posted by Gunnar from Ada, MI on 12/10/09 at 06:51 AM ET
See ya’ll in September.
Last 7 home games: 1-5-1, three shutouts against.
On those 3 blank games, 122 shots on goal, 0-for-15 PP.
On those 3 games, our goalies (James twice, Osgood once) have suffered 6 goals total, had a 91,1 save percentage, and the PK is 1-for-10.
Faux.
And when will Kenny start doing his job? Right now he looks more like a doctor coming to us and saying there’s not much hope left.
I hate this season.
Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 12/10/09 at 07:36 AM ET
Meh…..when does spring training start?
Posted by 42jeff from Minot, North Dakota on 12/10/09 at 07:43 AM ET
I may be failing miserably as I have been getting excessively high on my own supply this season. I have undertaken a project to reclaim the alcohol from the vomit spewed aboard the Hasek. Initial attempts taste like Olde English malt liquor. So far only Osrt can drink the stuff.
Posted by VooX from Behind the Bar in the Hasek Club Car
If it gets to the point of King Cobra, I’m in. For some reason I love that shit.
The problem with this season is Mr. Tock is handcuffed by the Slavery—I mean, Salary Cap. He could go out and try to find someone to replace those who have fallen, but someone would have to go the other way more than likely…
... Rafailski, perhaps? NTC or not, that contract is an extremely large, dead bird hanging around the neck of the ‘Zation.
Posted by RedMenace from the darkest recesses on 12/10/09 at 07:54 AM ET
The Avs went through this same thing last year. All of their AHL’ers got called up (including the coach). They had over 50 people rotate through the AHL roster. Now they’re doing better than they had in years.
But this does suck!
Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 12/10/09 at 07:54 AM ET
... Rafailski, perhaps? NTC or not, that contract is an extremely large, dead bird hanging around the neck of the ‘Zation.
Posted by RedMenace from The Basement on 12/10/09 at 07:54 AM ET
U really want to get rid of Raf? So we could play entire games in our end? Not trying to be inflammatory here, but trading away our number 2 d man to get some offense seems a little counter productive. I do understand your point though, Tick Tock is pretty hog tied here. No other GM is out there looking to hook up the Wings. We aren’t gonna get anything for free.
Damnit I miss the motherfauxing Mule.
Posted by ITDeuce from The Land of Ice and Snow on 12/10/09 at 08:14 AM ET
The Avs went through this same thing last year. All of their AHL’ers got called up (including the coach). They had over 50 people rotate through the AHL roster. Now they’re doing better than they had in years.
But this does suck!
Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 12/10/09 at 07:54 AM ET
You are comparing us to the Avs? Really? Has it come to that? Nope. I reject your reality and insert my own. Here comes Stanley.
Posted by ITDeuce from The Land of Ice and Snow on 12/10/09 at 08:15 AM ET
Was already going to post just “R.S.V.”, then read this.
Kenny IS doing his job. The Franchise is operating under a strict Communist system and always keeps the long term picture in focus. You don’t see knee jerk reactions that have devastating long term consequences.
They saw the loss of most of those several goal scorers and knew this year would be different. No one could anticipate the depth of injuries added on to it. Well, it was unlikely that it would be this invasive.
Abbadoo was supposed to be in GR all year for further maturing and strengthening, but he’s been up for every game and starting now at 2d center, WTF?
No one is going to jettison a wad of players to land one big name goal scorer who may not pan out that way here (calling Enigma, hello Enigma).
They can’t do much right now but the injuries are disturbingly going to run longer into this nightmare than we thought. It is clear that the best we can hope for is to be on the edge or on the bubble of the playoff teams and get healthy for a stretch drive the last 21 game of the season.
That still may be asking too much.
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 12/10/09 at 08:19 AM ET
SI: Negative effect of the Salary Cap on the NHL:
http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2009/12/sis_farber_salary_cap_destabil.html
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 12/10/09 at 08:35 AM ET
Can’t trade, it’s not worth it. This team will have a better cap situation next season that may present them with the ability to bring in a free agent to bolster the forward corps and put them back in legitimate Cup contention. If you start trading chips just to try to stay afloat this season (a season in which you don’t appear to be much more than a middle-of-the-playoff-pack team), you are mortgaging the future for something that just plain does not matter.
If this team were sustaining these injuries, but was playing very well otherwise, and had shown us all something that led us to believe they could truly compete for the Cup this season, then I’d say make a trade, do something to stop the (literal) bleeding. But they aren’t playing that well. So all a trade would do is feed into the illusion that this team could win a Cup this year, when they likely cannot, and hurt their chances in future years by shipping younger talent out.
Oh, and nevermind the cap. I just don’t see how they could make a trade for anyone that could make an impact. At best, they could bring in a veteran scorer that’s got little touch left. I say the better idea is just to weather the storm with what you have. If you get through it and are still within striking distance of the playoffs around the deadline, then maybe you consider making a deadline day deal to bolster your scoring.
Because if this team is still in the thick of it after the Olympic break, they will be the one team nobody wants to play in the playoffs. Nobody is going to want to run into a club that A) looks fundamentally different than what they saw most of the season because all that talent is back from injury and B) is getting the talent and emotional boost from having guys like Flip, Cleary, Franzen, and Kronwall fresh and ready to unleash on the league down the stretch.
I don’t mean to be negative, I’m just trying to be realistic. As we should all know very well being Wings fans, you make trades when you think you’re one, even two pieces away from hoisting the Cup. If we’re being honest, we know that’s likely not the case this year, so it’d be foolish to act as such and make a trade. This team is set up to be as good as any team over the long haul in a cap system, with the contracts they have Z, Pav, Franzen, Flip, Cleary, Kronwall, and Stuart under. Next year could be a quick turn-around (especially as we watch Chicago shed their auxiliary talent while we likely add a reinforcement or two). Let’s not ruin what could be Cup runs in the next few years to try and make one that’s a clear pipe dream this season.
Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 12/10/09 at 08:36 AM ET
Posted by Nathan from Jonny Ericsson’s ice cream truck on 12/10/09 at 08:36 AM ET
What he said.
(by the looks of things Johnny is sometimes thinking about that ice cream truck too much when he’s on the ice)
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 12/10/09 at 08:41 AM ET
you guys are much more fun to read when you’re screaming “we are the Red Wings dammit, and we don’t give a sh1t” or something like that…
It’s still early, wasn’t it in february last year that the penguins were 10th in the East, or something close to that?
Posted by Greg on 12/10/09 at 08:49 AM ET
We knew we were in trouble people;
We did we you got to do when you are in trouble, and that is stick together;
And Keep on Ridin the Storm Out, live 1983.
Oh, and vomit, cry, break things, pray, sacrifice, and whatever the hell else you can think of to buy a damned goal - - and Stop going to the damned injured list.
Chief made a good point last night in the Ell Bee - - remember, back in the day, a 5-3 might mean 2 PP goals? Now we pray just for a fuchin scoring chance.
I am terribly afraid a long ugly winter is in store for us.
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 12/10/09 at 08:57 AM ET
Once we deplete the Griffins of their talent (almost there already) we can always tap into the AA system.
Alcoholics Anonymous?
there will be no buying of outside help I hope
pure goal scorers from GR,even if they are kids,for 10, games it wont kill anyone
and someone please help Datsyuk,maybe a sports shrink?
Babcock is a sports shrink.
Just for good measure, re: Buckets- MOTHERFUCKING
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 12/10/09 at 08:57 AM ET
Nathan is right. Holland wrote off the 2009-2010 season as soon as Crosby and Gary shared a warm embrase at center ice of the Joe. He isn’t going to do anything this year. I don’t think there will even be a trade at the deadline, regardless of standings (buying or selling). You are looking at your roster. He doesn’t want to mortgage any more future seasons because this year’s team isn’t going to do anything, short of a mule-backed miracle. The only chance you have to pick up a new non-GR player would be through another waived player.
Posted by Matt on 12/10/09 at 08:58 AM ET
If this team were sustaining these injuries, but was playing very well otherwise, and had shown us all something that led us to believe they could truly compete for the Cup this season, then I’d say make a trade, do something to stop the (literal) bleeding. But they aren’t playing that well. So all a trade would do is feed into the illusion that this team could win a Cup this year, when they likely cannot, and hurt their chances in future years by shipping younger talent out.
I know, I just don’t wanna believe it.
Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 12/10/09 at 09:05 AM ET
I don’t think a trade is going to help us. This means Leino’s definitely back in the lineup and he’s gotta produce.
Failing that, I’d bring Kindl back up and move Meech to fourth line forward, promoting Drew Miller. Also, I think it’s time that Uncle Mike starts considering Draper-Helm-Eaves our second line. Let them know that they’re going to get second line minutes and will be expected to score like a second line.
Failing that, give Tatar a chance. He’s the closest thing to a power forward we’ve got.
Failing all that, resort to sabotaging the other team, paying off the refs, surreptitious old-style-Chelios gooning, and virgin sacrifice. Anything for a three game win streak.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/10/09 at 09:07 AM ET
By the way, I think we can’t keep using the Hossa/Hudler/Sammy argument for this poor season (I mean, we don’t use it, but the media does).
Every team lost someone to freee agency, the difference is that they had the time to get in the new sytem, while we lost a lot of players to injuries, to the point we never used our “real lineup”.
The closest we’ve been to it was the Opening in North America, against Chicago, and it was a good game.
Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 12/10/09 at 09:11 AM ET
Failing that, I’d bring Kindl back up and move Meech to fourth line forward
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/10/09 at 09:07 AM ET
I forgot he could play forward. To be fair, I forgot he could play defense, too.
Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 12/10/09 at 09:13 AM ET
Just wondering. Is it bad when you vomit blood? I think the stress is causing an ulcer.
Posted by WingsFanInBeanLand from Lidstrom's head telling him 1 more year on 12/10/09 at 09:27 AM ET
Hello, lottery pick.
Hey, been a while since I’ve seen the Lija4Ever shot. He hasn’t been around. But I’ve been thinking about him (okay, more about the ruby-red lips and doe eyes of his avatar now boosted by RWBIll) lately.
You want a trade? Here’s our trade—for a hitman who specializes in hockey players. Even the playing field, so to speak. It’s the only way and you know it.
No trade. Not to just make the playoffs where we might not make a dent. Unfortunately, it may come down to that and financial dictates (a franchise makes a disproportionate amount of its cash in the playoffs) tell Mr. I to make a trade and he tells Kenny. But please…
...No trade. Bitches.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 12/10/09 at 09:28 AM ET
OK, here’s a wonky and crazy idea. Dress Amazon, keep Leino benched. (piss him off real good, and if he isn’t gonna respond then maybe this whole North American thing just isn’t gonna work out for him, But for the record I think he will.) And put the Big Rig on forward. Why not try it? Dress him as the number 2 center. Him and Bert on the same line could be interesting. Couple of big bodies. They’ll never do it I’m sure, but it really seems to me that we need some more size up front. And he’s the biggest guy on the team who used to play center. So WTF? Try it…
Posted by ITDeuce from The Land of Ice and Snow on 12/10/09 at 09:28 AM ET
You want a trade? Here’s our trade—for a hitman who specializes in hockey players. Even the playing field, so to speak. It’s the only way and you know it.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 12/10/09 at 09:28 AM ET
Yeah…
...where’s this guy when you need him?
Posted by Animal Drew from A Nightmare on Helm Street on 12/10/09 at 09:45 AM ET
These are the times that try men’s souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
-Thomas Paine, 1776.
Some very good news: Jimmah is a stud!
Kenny always trades at the deadline, but nothing earth-shattering.
I think he will (privately) call this year a success if the Wings make the playoffs.
Look for him to make big move(s) early in free-agency next summer.
Vinny Lecavalier would be a great addition, imho.
Posted by w2j2 on 12/10/09 at 09:58 AM ET
Vinny Lecavalier would be a great addition, imho.
Posted by w2j2 on 12/10/09 at 09:58 AM ET
Kovalchuk…I already called it.
Posted by Animal Drew from A Nightmare on Helm Street on 12/10/09 at 10:25 AM ET
Ok, so this blows.
I feel bad for Buckets because he has no chance of making the Canadian team now. I know he already put himself on the outside by playing poorly but this puts and end to that.
However.
Do you guys remember the 93-94’ season when Stevie went down? We had Keith Fuching Primeau on that team.
But Sergei stepped up and had an MVP season. Granted we didn’t do anything in the playoffs (fuch you Leafs) but we saw the birth of a superstar.
This season belongs to Pav and Z. King Lidas, no matter how great, is not a goal scorer and cannot do what the EuroTwins can do. They simply have to become co-MVPs for us to make the playoffs.
Posted by Osrt on 12/10/09 at 10:25 AM ET
so it looks like Fetisov is lacing em up again. just for a game it looks like, but still…
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4730664&campaign=rss&source=NHLHeadlines
and we thought our injury problems were bad. until we’re asking the coaching staff and management to put on a uniform, we’re ok.
Posted by Twig in Houston from Houston, TX on 12/10/09 at 10:28 AM ET
I think he will (privately) call this year a success if the Wings make the playoffs.
Posted by w2j2 on 12/10/09 at 09:58 AM ET
I think I’d call it a minor miracle.
Last night, I thought the Wings played pretty good, and with grit and determination. The China-Man fire drill on the GA was an exception.
But that illustrates the ugly truth - - the roster has no scoring depth. Sure the Circus had chances. But all season, we have been griping that Helm has alot of chances, and cannot finish . . . ditto for Bert and whatever other Wing you can think of.
Abby a 2nd line center - - he is a great kid, lots of passion, but c’mon a 2 liner?
Willy - Wally - Mule - - that is a 2 line. Draper-Helm-Eaves makes a great 3 line.
The Long Cold Winter is upon us.
Posted by Jeff OKWingnut from Quest for 12 on 12/10/09 at 10:54 AM ET
I need some help. A guy commented on the blog that he prefers to see the team missing the playoffs than going through one round were more injuries can occur. How do I trash him without losing a reader?
Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 12/10/09 at 11:03 AM ET
How do I trash him without losing a reader?
Posted by Guilherme from Brasil on 12/10/09 at 11:03 AM ET
Break his legs, but leave his eyes intact.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 12/10/09 at 11:12 AM ET
You want a trade? Here’s our trade—for a hitman who specializes in hockey players. Even the playing field, so to speak. It’s the only way and you know it.
Umm, isn’t that Big Bert? Apparently Kenny neuters all psychos before they get into the locker room.
Posted by rwingscup19 from Dallas on 12/10/09 at 11:18 AM ET
//sigh// ... and the hits keep coming ...
Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 12/10/09 at 11:20 AM ET
If Lilja heals, Tick Tock can trade Lebda, call up Kindl and get a forward.
But as far as the shot accuracy percentage - Can Pavel get a group discount for thse guys at Dr. Rahmani’s?
Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 12/10/09 at 11:55 AM ET
Me thinks that Shanny retired 1 week too soon.
Posted by CaptainDennisPolonich from Warm and sunny SoCal on 12/10/09 at 12:06 PM ET
I still hate everything right now.
Posted by Animal Drew from A Nightmare on Helm Street on 12/10/09 at 12:09 PM ET
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