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by IwoCPO on 06/14/09 at 09:06 AM ET
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Interesting. Can anyone recall a single time Kris Draper’s said anything to the media that could be construed as controversial or critical of another player? Even after his face was ravaged by one of the more cowardly hits in NHL history, Draper said little to nothing.
Draper, who’s never shirked his responsibilities after Wing losses, who’s never said an ill thing about an opponent, who’s respected league wide…is now just making stuff up. Right?
“Nick was waiting and waiting, and Crosby didn’t come over to shake his hand” in the traditional handshake line. He added that, “that’s ridiculous, especially as their captain, and make sure you write that I said that.”
Pens fans, and we’ll get to them soon, like to point out that Gary’s Baby Boy was being interviewed, distracted, roadblocked from leading his team through the handshake line. Got it.
“There’s nobody who respects the traditions of hockey more than Sidney Crosby. It was a young team celebrating its first Cup and some of the guys might have been a little late getting into the handshake line.”
That’s the Pens VP of comms. “Some of the guys…” Really? One of the guys, actually. The rest of “the guys” were looking behind them, wondering where their “captain” was.
Rosby’s a joke of a captain and we all know it, have known it. We saw it as neutral observers then became more aware of it during last year’s Final. We saw him refuse to give Hank Zetterberg credit for stifling him, for his play on the 5-3..but that was after he chased him across the ice squealing at him. Then we saw the real Crosby after Games 1 and 2 this year, playing the bitch role to perfection again.
Bitter the Wings lost? Sure. Bitter that they lost to Maxime Talbot? No. He owns the Wings and I’ll have nightmares about him for months. To Dan Bylsma? Definitely not. Hell, when Mike Babcock moves on in five or six years, and he will because that’s the nature of the business, we’ll take Bylsma. No problem. Michigan boy. Class act.
But Crosby? If he’s been looking forward to this his entire life, as the Pens organization is now saying, to include Mario Lemieux…if he’s so in tune with the “traditions of hockey”...how does that happen? How does little Thid the boy captain not get his ass to the front of that line?
Got a couple emails this morning. Here’s one from a Pens fan and I won’t put the whole thing here….just a few sentences to give you a feel for the tone.
How sweet it really is to shove this right back in your face for being a disrespectful writer whinning about everything possible and being the cockiest fanbase in the NHL. I hope the sight of crosby skating with the cup is printed in your mind forever and i hope you have a HORRIBLE day sobbing and crying over this.
That’s from Kevin, an A2Y fan. Kevin, instead of celebrating his team’s Stanley Cup, chose to write a heartfelt email to yours truly and whine for four paragraphs about how “disrespected” he felt as a Pens fan that I didn’t give his team the necessary credit for their victory.
Also got an email from the PensBlog guys today, asking where their Blogger’s Championship Belt is.
There you go boys. Congratulations.
And here’s something else…we’ve received some decent comments from good Pens fans here the last few days, a good number of them in fact. Good people and good fans who have come here to congratulate the Wings, Wing fans, the organ-I-zation, for a great Final and a great series. Thanks.
And then there have been many more who said things like this…
“What a joke of a town that is nothing but a pariah to the US. Can we vote to exclude them and their worthless beings from the U.S.. Get a f*cking job and stop asking for handouts and bailouts you f*cking losers.
Posted by Pensssss on 06/13/09 at 03:52 AM ET”
And that’s tame. But it’s one of literally hundreds since the Final began. Hundreds of comments almost identical to that.
I have exactly zero doubt where that “fan” came from or which blog he’s a product of. And because I’m certain of that I can say this: I’d be humiliated if any of you had gone over there to say things like that after the Wings won last year. It would be an embarrassment and an indictment of us all. The Pens “fans” who have come here spewing that or something like it are the definition of scum. The very definition of it.
Going after the team and me for the way I write is one thing, and it’s expected. But to those PensBlog readers who have come here before, during and after the Final to use it as a means to rub Michigan’s economic tragedy in the faces of those who have been devastated….you are despicable. And if the PensBlog operators are aware of it and not doing something about it, you’re no better and that’s a fact.
But, thankfully, there is humor to be found here. Humor in the fact that the tone is shifting from the disgusting to the bizarre. In the span of the last fifteen or sixteen hours the Pens “fans” are now coming here to whine that we haven’t given them the necessary “credit.” One ended their comment with this, “We have a damn good team.” Awww. We know you do. You won the Cup didn’t you?
You could almost hear the sobs. It’s been less than 48 hours since their team won the Cup and here they are…whining because I haven’t written something like, “the Wings lost to the better team.” That will never be written here. Ever. Not about this series. Injuries and officiating. Injuries and officiating. Those who have been here long enough recognize that and who said it first.
Hossa. I believe he’s staying because he’s said he’d take less to do so. He’s a character guy, despite the wire brushing he’s taking here and will all summer. And he’s completely embarrassed right now.
No. I don’t know how Tick Tock is going to make it happen, but I believe he will. And I’ll say this, I don’t have to analyze numbers or charts. I don’t have to because I never have. I’m going on gut and if you guys want to crunch numbers go ahead.
I believe Sammy is gone and wouldn’t be surprised if Hudler was too. I also think Kirk Maltby is gone, bought out if possible. One way or another Ken Holland is going to keep Marian Hossa in the fold and it’s going to be around 5 million/year for at least 7…if not 7 on the dot.
Holland will keep him because Hossa is a character guy and it will give the Wings a group of forwards unmatched by any team in the league, a mixture of speed, talent, grit and firepower no one can touch. Ken Holland is not going to keep Hudler and Samuelsson if it means re-signing one of the top ten forwards in the world for five million or less/year.
Hossa’s staying. And he’s going to be a madman next year. He’s going to be Verlander.
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You may be confusing the applause for a good check with applause for an injury.
Todd, I’d agree if it ended with the applause, but that argument lost credibility when the fans followed up the applause with a “Crosby sucks” chant immediately afterward, while he was limping off and being attended to by trainers on the bench.
Now if this was Philly, they could make the argument that that was a standard chant used throughout the course of the game, but to my knowledge, this was completely out of character for Detroit because Wings fans don’t normally resort to those lame chants, they have better things to do like, you know, root for their own team.
Posted by Battleship from City of Champions on 06/14/09 at 12:27 PM ET
AJ, case in point.
Ahhhhhh….but the difference is that I don’t embrace or defend those types of “fans”.
Obviously, you do.
Posted by AJ on 06/14/09 at 12:28 PM ET
Oops -
I meant BEHIND a couple of other centers - no one makes a line with three centers on it (I don’t think).
Regardless, I think Pittsburgh will keep Staal - and they should (salary permitting). He’s a very good young player and they would be a worse team without him unless they really made out well in a trade.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 12:28 PM ET
I am here to ask the opinion of the 19 on Jordan Staal . over the course of this season there were Chants of Trade Staal (not from me ) which I really think were unfair the kid is only 20 yrs old and his size he has the makings to be one of the best defensive forwards in the game ?
Go ahead and trade him.
Detroit will be happy to take him off your hands.
The number he did on Homer was outstanding.
The minute you forget he is out there, he will bite you in the butt.
I commented accordingly before the series even began.
Chants of Trade Staal
....?
Ignore them, we have a lot of fans here in Detroit that know very little about hockey, also.
Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 06/14/09 at 12:29 PM ET
This whole seal thing. Apparently the league changed the seal this year? The seal on the bottom of the Cup this year is different than what we’ve seen in previous years.
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 06/14/09 at 12:29 PM ET
Atlanta has some good pizza. Michigan pizza, even Downriver, is much better, IMO 
You wanna talk crappy Pizza? Florida pizza is the absolute worst I’ve ever had!
Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 06/14/09 at 12:31 PM ET
And to the comments about losing the finals not stinging as much ...
For me it is far more disappointing, obviously - but different in that the loss was understandable, given the injuries and whatnot. After some of the regular season losses there was a lot of headscratching about why the goaltending was so strange or what the heck everyone was thinking. It stings to think a team might be getting complacent - not so much when they just emptied the tank and ran out of gas.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 12:33 PM ET
If you actually think “Pens” exudes a level of maturity you’re proud of, then I might get arrested for child abuse if we ever met face to face.
WTF are you talking about? This sentence makes no sense.
Ahhhhhh….but the difference is that I don’t embrace or defend those types of “fans”.
I never said I did either, but if you trying to say your fanbase is lily-white and ours is coal-black (which you were)...case in point.
So AJ…you spend any time on any of your own fan blogs, or you just wasting time with us?
One more thing about Staal—I’m not convinced he’s happy playing where he is. There were rumors before, and there are still rumblings, that he wants a prominent role elsewhere. I don’t think they’ll go away now that he’s won a Cup.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/14/09 at 12:34 PM ET
Todd, I’d agree if it ended with the applause, but that argument lost credibility when the fans followed up the applause with a “Crosby sucks” chant immediately afterward, while he was limping off and being attended to by trainers on the bench.
You were originally complaining about the applause, not the chant.
“Crosby Sucks”....?
Never heard that before…?
Is this the first game you ever watched…?
Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 06/14/09 at 12:36 PM ET
Atlanta has some good pizza. Michigan pizza, even Downriver, is much better, IMO
You’ll get no argument from me there, but see my previous comments re: Cottage Inn, Anthony’s, Pizza House, NYPD, etc.
I’ve never had Florida pizza and don’t want to think about it. I’ve had German pizza—that was bad enough. Worst I’ve ever had, and I’ve had pizza in frickin’ INDIA. Even strange Russian pizza with tomato paste and what appeared to be Tvorag cheese was better.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/14/09 at 12:37 PM ET
I thought as much thank you for your thoughts and opinions I don’t normally comment on another teams boards but I wanted an unbiased opinion and figured I would get one here , He did get a new contract this yr and will be UFA in 4 yrs I believe it is they seem very set on keepin him which as a pens fan makes me happy
great job this year to all of you and good luck in the years to come in hockey and with you city because what is good for one state makes the other 49 stonger when one of the 50 is weak the other 49 are weaker as well I guess some people haven’t realized that yet
many blessing from one hockey fan to another
Posted by M71 on 06/14/09 at 12:39 PM ET
A snapshot of Pens fans in here:
AJ went from…
“Stay classy there guys!”
to…
“Please A2Y regulars…tell me you don’t actually claim this zitt-faced teenager as one of your own!”
to…
“Instead of trading barbs, how about some serious hockey conversation?”
Now that takes talent.
So much talent, in fact, this followed…
“Thanks for backing me up AJ. You said it way better than I ever could have.”
-Posted by Battleship from City of Champions on 06/14/09 at 12:33 PM ET
You can’t make this stuff up.
Has anyone ever seen the fans of a winning team so upset? So irate?
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 12:46 PM ET
many blessing from one hockey fan to another
Posted by M71 on 06/14/09 at 01:39 PM ET
Same to you. Enjoy your summer. 
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 12:47 PM ET
Sure. He’s a damn good player stuck in an unsuitable role on his team. Any place else, he’s a legit first-line center, but stuck behind Crosby and Malkin, he’s forced into a checking role. I suspect he’ll be out of there as soon as UFA status comes along uless he’s given a bigger role with the team.
I don’t know that Staal’s role is all that unsuitable. When he was drafted, he wasn’t known as a top-level offensive player like his brother Eric was. I believe he never scored more than 28 goals in juniors, so when he scored 29 his rookie year that was a huge (but obviously pleasant) shock to everyone in the Pens organization. He is developing into a top-notch defensive forward, and probably a Selke candidate in the future (Assuming, of course that Datsyuk and Zetterberg ever get out of the league.), and with the time he spends on the PK, he’s getting a good 18-20 minutes a game.
I also don’t think he’s yet a legit first-line center because his passing skills still need to be improved. When he scored on that 2-on-1 in game 6, I think he was even quoted as saying he knew he was going to shoot because he’s not a passer. I would say at this point that he’s 2nd line material.
As far as his UFA status, fortunately he’s under contract for 4 more years. Things should get very interesting around that time in Pittsburgh because Staal’s and Crosby’s contracts expire at the same time, and Malkin’s expires a year later. As much as I’d like the Pens to keep them all, realistically there will have to be some movement. But that’s a worry for another time. I’m just going to enjoy the next few years and hope we can stay at or near the top of the mountain the way the Wings have been doing for so long.
Posted by Battleship from City of Champions on 06/14/09 at 12:49 PM ET
WTF are you talking about? This sentence makes no sense.
It makes loads of sense, but this forum took the brackets around the “i” inserted into “Pens” as meaning I wanted italics.
I never said I did either, but if you trying to say your fanbase is lily-white and ours is coal-black (which you were)...case in point.
Wow…you sure love to project don’t you?
You are here arguing and acting as if calling the Pens the “Penis” is a mature and adult way to interact….so yes, you DO condone and defend such adolescence.
Meanwhile, I have stated here that I think such talk from fellow Pittsburghers is unnecessary and have yet to defend any of it…..so I don’t know where you think I ever said all Pens fans were “lily white”???
So AJ…you spend any time on any of your own fan blogs, or you just wasting time with us?
As a matter of fact I spend a good deal of time on many different hockey sites. Sometimes I do like to waste some time on other places such as this. I especially like to comment when I see some blog inventing a “controversy du jour” over nothing.
But thanks for your interest in my internet habits.
Posted by AJ on 06/14/09 at 12:52 PM ET
You were originally complaining about the applause, not the chant.
“Crosby Sucks”....?
Never heard that before…?
Is this the first game you ever watched…?
A) I never complained about the applause.
b) Heard the Crosby Sucks a million time from idiot Flyers and Caps fans, but never heard it from Detroit fans, especially in the middle of a tight playoff game. Are you saying that Wings fans are as pathetic as Flyers and Caps fans?
Posted by Battleship from City of Champions on 06/14/09 at 12:55 PM ET
Fleury is flower in French, idiot….
and Mr Ed in English.
Posted by Surfer Ken from San Clemente on 06/14/09 at 12:55 PM ET
We use Pen(i)s to describe your team because you all act like a bunch of dumb cocksuckers if you really must know….
Posted by Since71 from Bucharest, Romania on 06/14/09 at 12:56 PM ET
According to NHL numbers.com, Malkin goes from 984,000 this year to 9 million next year. That is 18 million for two players (Crosby/Malkin).
Detroit has 19 million tied up in Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Filpulla, and Cleary.
As far as GM’s go, advantage Detroit.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 12:56 PM ET
Heard the Crosby Sucks a million time from idiot Flyers and Caps fans, but never heard it from Detroit fans, especially in the middle of a tight playoff game.
Maybe because you play the Flyers and Caps a total of 12 times in the regular season, plus for 12 or 13 games in the playoffs, whereas we play you maybe once per regular season, and maybe one series in the playoffs?
“Crosby sucks” has always been a mantra around here. Hell, we chant it when we’re playing Columbus.
Live with it.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:00 PM ET
You are here arguing and acting as if calling the Pens the “Penis” is a mature and adult way to interact….so yes, you DO condone and defend such adolescence.
Yeah we do. From us. If you don’t like what we call you, go home. I’m not hanging around on your blogs because I don’t want to hear what you think about us. I think I speak for most of us when I say this. Go enjoy the cup and go away.
Posted by jennyquarx on 06/14/09 at 01:06 PM ET
I’ve heard the “Crosby sucks” chant in most of the away games I saw - sometimes it was covered by the announcers talking over it, though, so it was less obvious.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 01:07 PM ET
To the zitt-faced teenager:
“Irate” ???
“Upset”???
No…just pointing out how immature you are. I’d venture to say that the individual who has to resort to using “Penis” in place of “Pens” is the one who’s exhibiting some unhealthy feelings which causes them to revert to such childish language.
I couldn’t be happier at the moment. I have a whole year of being proud of my team and my city ahead of me…... until the war starts anew next season.
Then I have a beautiful new arena to look forward to as well.
Posted by AJ on 06/14/09 at 01:07 PM ET
seriously… get over it. we won the cup and we earned… if you guys had a superstar on the caliber that crosby is you wouldve found out last year that everyone from NBC to CBC to The Owkinawa Times wanted a quote from him. that, coupled with getting the cup coupled with his knee injury its kind of hard to get around on the ice… to say he is classless (even though they have pictures of him shaking hands with SEVERAL detroit players) is stupid especially when the majority of the red wings players left inside of 2 minutes… and calling our fans trash is rediculious- chanting geno sucks when he got the smythe was top 5 worst things ive ever seen a fanbase ever do… pot calling the kettle black if oyu ask me. get over it, lick your wounds, and see you next year for the trilogy
Posted by yzerman is overated on 06/14/09 at 01:09 PM ET
So you are not upset that the Wings lost the cup?
So you are not upset that the Wings lost 4 out of the last 5 games of the finals?
So you are not upset that Hossa played like shit?
So you are not upset that Babcock in all of his greatness could not figure out a game plan going into the 3rd period to win a game 7 against a penguins team without Crosby?
So you are not upset that the Wings had nearly twice as many powerplays but only converted on 4 of them (same as pens)
So you are not upset that after you and 18 other wing message board fans creatively inserted an (i) between the name pens to spell penis on nearly every post that it did not have the voodoo effect of causing the penguins to lose in the finals?
So you are not upset that your fan base represented themselves like great sports after the 1.) Crosby was injured, 2.) The penguins were presented the Cup, 3.) Bettman went to center ice.
So you are not upset that Hossa played like shit (7.4 million for what?) —I know i already mentioned this, but it is extra surprsing that this is not your main point of anger.
So you are not upset that the Wings were unable to pinch off that dingleberry in game 7, at home, after leading the series 2-0.
So you are not upset that after the 5-0 blowout that so many were so quick to point out was Detroit playing so good and not the penguins playing so bad.
NO NO!
You are upset that :
1. The penguins chose Crosby to be their captain? (2 years ago)
2. The penguins captain did not shake the hand of the red wings captain?
Posted by Gretzky_to_Lemieux on 06/14/09 at 01:10 PM ET
you play the Flyers and Caps a total of 12 times in the regular season, plus for 12 or 13 games in the playoffs
Oh please don’t remind me now that is truly hell those are some greuling games
but very very fun for a fan of the game of hockey
Posted by M71 from Pretty Pittsburgh on 06/14/09 at 01:11 PM ET
Go enjoy the cup and go away
No kidding.
It didn’t even enter my mind to spend the two days after our Cup win last year on Pens blogs. Why??? It makes no sense.
Surround yourself with like-minded people who are enjoying the moment a little more than obviously you are. Drown yourself in pro-Pens propaganda on friendly sites. Soak up all the parade has to offer. Do it. Because it is fleeting. Soon enough you’ll have to defend Stanley.
And it’s a whole different ballgame when you have a target on your back.
You Pens fans will have to grow much thicker skin, because as it stands now you’ll be a massive puddle of piss by Halloween next year. You’re everyone’s public enemy number one as Defender of the Cup.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:13 PM ET
Oh please don’t remind me now that is truly hell those are some greuling games
but very very fun for a fan of the game of hockeyPosted by M71 from Pretty Pittsburgh on 06/14/09 at 02:11 PM ET
Those are fun to watch, for sure. Even if you don’t follow either of the teams.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 01:14 PM ET
To the zitt-faced teenager:
Instead of trading barbs, how about some serious hockey conversation?
-AJ
keep ‘em coming, AJ!
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:15 PM ET
if you guys had a superstar on the caliber that crosby
Osgood had one less point than Crosby in the Finals. Does that mean he is almost a superstar?
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:16 PM ET
Well, I certainly thank you “classy” Wings fans for proving my point FOR me!
It makes things much easier when you melt-down on your own and the smug little cover is pulled-off showing that the emperor has no clothes.
Posted by AJ on 06/14/09 at 01:16 PM ET
Posted by Gretzky_to_Lemieux on 06/14/09 at 02:10 PM ET
I am upset that the trolls aren’t spending time with the fans of the team they cheer for and leaving us alone.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 01:16 PM ET
I think Draper’s jealous. That’s why he said that about Crosby while he was leaving the building. He should’ve never dragged Lidstrom into his little tantrom. The whole organization feels disrespected by Bettman and the NHL. They need to get over it. Babcock even said at one of his press conferences (joking of course) that he wasn’t sure if they won the Cup last year because of all the promotion of Crosby and the Penguins on the NHL Network. Hockeytown needs to come to the realization that they were BEAT and are not the Stanley Cup Champions anymore. “Elvis has left the building”
Posted by Lindas1st on 06/14/09 at 01:17 PM ET
“Elvis has left the building”
But for some reason his ‘fans’ have stayed.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:18 PM ET
Well, I certainly thank you “classy” Wings fans for proving my point FOR me!
It makes things much easier when you melt-down on your own and the smug little cover is pulled-off showing that the emperor has no clothes.
Posted by AJ on 06/14/09 at 02:16 PM ET
What point?
That we don’t get why, when you have just won the Stanley Cup, you aren’t celebrating with your friends and fellow fans?
It makes no sense. It’s like breaking up with an s.o. and then still living in the same apartment, because, hey, the furniture is really nice. It’s just ... silly. Why bother even being here?
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 01:19 PM ET
Those are fun to watch, for sure. Even if you don’t follow either of the teams.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan
yes they are I love to watch the classic rivalries the bruins / habs
the wings/ducks all great games and teams is there a better sport in the world than hockey ? I think not my friends
Posted by M71 from Pretty Pittsburgh on 06/14/09 at 01:20 PM ET
It makes things much easier when you melt-down on your own and the smug little cover is pulled-off showing that the emperor has no clothes.
Instead of trading barbs, how about some serious hockey conversation?
-AJ
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:20 PM ET
To the zitt-faced teenager:
Instead of trading barbs, how about some serious hockey conversation?
-AJ
Yep…and you saw how many of you actually were actually capable of having a serious hockey conversation when asked to.
Again…thanks for not only proving my point, but especially for the zitt-faced teenager highlighting it for me again.
Posted by AJ on 06/14/09 at 01:21 PM ET
“Elvis has left the building”
Would you kindly do the same?
Posted by jennyquarx on 06/14/09 at 01:22 PM ET
Again…thanks for not only proving my point, but especially for the zitt-faced teenager highlighting it for me again.
Stay classy there guys!
-AJ
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:22 PM ET
wait who is the troll? see I didn’t want to say anything because I didn’t want it to be me I am truly sorry
Posted by M71 from Pretty Pittsburgh on 06/14/09 at 01:24 PM ET
It’s just ... silly. Why bother even being here?
Because they want, desire, need for Wings fans to tell them how great they are. They will not feel fulfilled until we tell them they are great. They want us to feel as intimidated by the Pens as they are by the Wings.
Sorry, ain’t gonna’ happen. Win a few more in short order, then maybe.
But not now.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:26 PM ET
wait who is the troll? see I didn’t want to say anything because I didn’t want it to be me I am truly sorry
Posted by M71 from Pretty Pittsburgh on 06/14/09 at 02:24 PM ET
Don’t worry - you are fine. We’re just talking hockey.
YOU ARE NO TROLL, my friend.
Hockey has the best uniforms, too - except for some of the third jerseys. And the continually changing Buffalo ones - just pick a color scheme and stick with it, people!
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/14/09 at 01:26 PM ET
There are 19 readers of A2Y. No more, no less. All of them, except maybe one, are juvenile in nature. Reminding them of that in the comment section will only encourage them to prove that.
Reading comprehension, penstrolls.
Look into it.
Now kindly piss off.
Posted by TeamDub from The gratch. on 06/14/09 at 01:26 PM ET
Thanks Chief. Yesterday was hard. I didn’t want to hear anything about hockey- yet I couldn’t turn off 97.1 and found myself consistently refreshing A2Y. Today is a new day though.
My thoughts on the Penguins winning the cup as a whole? Some deserve it, but I would liken it to when the fat kid gets congratulated for being able to do a pull-up in gym class, even though his teacher (Gary Bettman) was holding his legs up.
Posted by gb from detroit on 06/14/09 at 01:28 PM ET
if you guys had a superstar on the caliber that crosby is
Oooh yeah, big superstar, nice 3 points in 7 games of the Finals. Real big contributor there. I wouldn’t trade Helm for Crosby even if they made the same amount of money.
Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 06/14/09 at 01:29 PM ET
But for some reason his ‘fans’ have stayed.
You seem quite anxious to get rid of us. Are those mean old Pens fans making you upset and irate?
Poor wittle Wings fans…..
Posted by AJ on 06/14/09 at 01:29 PM ET
My thoughts on the Penguins winning the cup as a whole? Some deserve it, but I would liken it to when the fat kid gets congratulated for being able to do a pull-up in gym class, even though his teacher (Gary Bettman) was holding his legs up
F’n beautiful!!
LOL
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:29 PM ET
Poor wittle Wings fans…..
Instead of trading barbs, how about some serious hockey conversation?
-AJ
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/14/09 at 01:30 PM ET
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Sure. He’s a damn good player stuck in an unsuitable role on his team. Any place else, he’s a legit first-line center, but stuck behind Crosby and Malkin, he’s forced into a checking role. I suspect he’ll be out of there as soon as UFA status comes along uless he’s given a bigger role with the team.
I’ve had that Downriver pizza. You cannot claim that it’s much good, though never having had pizza in Atlanta, I’ll make you that concession. And the young ladies serving it in Wyandotte and Trenton and Grosse Ile (whose fine establishments obviously don’t pay them enough to afford much fabric for their clothing) certainly make it taste somewhat better.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/14/09 at 12:27 PM ET