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Take The Money And Run Away Mike
by IwoCPO on 07/13/10 at 12:04 AM ET
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You’re 40. You’ve been tossed aside by a mediocre team losing money by the buttload. You’ve got, maybe, one year left and a few options to consider. The Detroit Red Wings come calling and offer you a million bucks along with a damn good shot at a Cup. You say all the right things and the wheels start to turn. You run your mouth a few times, talk about legacy and the importance of one more run.
But when it all comes down to it…
It’s about the money. It’s always about the money.
That’s McCosky and he’s probably hit the mark.
Run to the cash Mike. Head out to San Jose or make it a little closer to home in Disney. Or, hell, go “home” to Minnesota where the money will be even better, maybe by a million or more. Because, Mike, we know you need it. We know that when it comes right down to it, it’s gotta be the cash.
Maybe we’re wrong Mike. Maybe you’re still hashing this out with Willa, or whatever her name is. We could be wrong about the growing perception that you’re not really “about winning.” Maybe you’re not the fit we thought you’d be in Detroit because it’s looking like the whole “character in the room” thing isn’t really your bag. Red Wings take less to play in Detroit, Mike. They sacrifice because the chances at a legacy are so much greater than anywhere else.
If the money were right, Mike Modano would have already signed a one-year deal with the Red Wings. The money, obviously, isn’t right. But the money isn’t going to change.
“We made an offer, we made our pitch,” Red Wings general manager Ken Holland said on Monday. “But this being a cap world, we’ve made lots of commitments. We don’t have a lot of wiggle room.”
Screw it Kenny. Don’t cave and don’t kiss this guy’s ass. We owned him for nearly two decades and it’s best that we remember him for what he is, Detroit’s bitch. Have fun in the sun Mike. Winning’s not the thing. Money is and Detroit’s not the place for that kind of priority.
Is it October yet?
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As I said in another post a few days ago…. we don’t need drama in Detroit, we need commitment. If MikeyMo can’t commit to a winning tradition? That says everything we need to know about him.
Posted by calquake on 07/13/10 at 12:43 AM ET
The guy’s had a long and storied career, and earned the right to take time to decide if he wants to continue playing, and if so, who he wants to play for. And if the management and fans of any particular team want to wait for him and are happy doing so in the thought that he might play for them, great and more power to them.
That being said, screw him. What he never earned was the right to run his mouth fast and loose in the media. I was against signing him at the beginning and I’m against it even more now. Maybe it would have been nice, but we never actually needed him, and we needed this drama even less. So let him go, we’re not getting him, we’ve got a season to get ready for.
Besides, with these kinds of character issues, he’d be a perfect fit in San Jose.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 07/13/10 at 01:15 AM ET
When this whole drama with Mike started, I have to admit, I was stoked. I always thought of Mike as a stand up sort of guy, with amazing skills, a great work ethic and a “committment to winning” (sorry for the cliche). As this drags out, I find myself more and more disappointed. Becaue Mike won’t be coming to the D and centering the third line? A little….. Mostly it’s because it has painted Mike in a new light. A man who talks out of both sides of his mouth, a man whose commitment to winning (there’s that cliche again) isn’t that deep, a man who will string along one of the most respected sports franchises of all times so that he can leverage their offer into a bigger payday. It’s sickening, it’s depressing, it’s downright apalling. I hope to god I’m wrong, because I want to remember the amazing Michigan-born NHL wonder that amazed us on the ice for damn near 2 decades, not a deceptive money-grabber who will likely spend the last year of his career in anonymity playing for another team with no realistic shot at the cup.
So, Mike…prove that this was all just some soul-searcing, and sorting out your personal shyte. I’m not ready to abandon hope yet, but…dammit Mike….make the right choice and do it in a reasonable time frame. The Wings have business to handle and you don’t want your legacy tarnished with an ending like this.
Posted by WingsFaninCO on 07/13/10 at 01:17 AM ET
Besides, with these kinds of character issues, he’d be a perfect fit in San Jose.
He’d also have more uniform numbers to choose from…I don’t think #9 is retired there—hell I don’t think they’ve retired ANY numbers ...yes sir, tradition and winning…though they do have a President’s Trophy banner hanging in the rafters of the Shart Tank by god!—of course it only serves to remind everyone of yet another epic postseason choke!!!
Yeah go play there. Whatever.
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 07/13/10 at 02:27 AM ET
why would he run for money… dude was getting free cash for the past 3 years.
Posted by Oilers Rock from Edmonton, Alberta on 07/13/10 at 04:52 AM ET
He may have been sincere about his Detroit or retire comment. But that was before the rest of the West decided to mirror our moves and throw more money at him too. More money and easier on the homefront? (Although, I’m not sure why you need to be in California for a soft-porn career).
Double pressure. More money from his contract, more money with Willa’s dancing career and no forced abstinence.
Posted by Osrt on 07/13/10 at 05:49 AM ET
I don’t think it’s specifically the money. I think he’s still trying to talk himself into going through another season when he doesn’t have to.
He’s trying to convince himself NOT to take the easier path and retire. I think that shows more which way he is leaning than any words do. So far none of the offers have felt like the hassle would be worth it.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 07/13/10 at 06:03 AM ET
Speaking of wanting to make money, noted sage Rod Blagojevich wisely said of something else, but could equally be used to refer to an opportunity to sign with the Wings:
“[We’ve] got this thing and it’s f*cking golden, and, uh, uh, [we’re] just not giving it up for f*ckin’ nothing. [We’re] not gonna do it. And, and [we] can always use it. [We] can parachute [us] there.”
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 07/13/10 at 06:15 AM ET
(Although, I’m not sure why you need to be in California for a soft-porn career).
Sign with the Wings, Mike. Willa, go see Osrt on the casting couch—he’ll help your career take off, big-stylee. Ain’t no porno like Detroit porno!
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 07/13/10 at 06:17 AM ET
Our hands were tied last summer with the Hudler issue and now lil’ Mo is having a similar impact to finalizing the Wing’s roster for this upcoming season. As the Chief said earlier, Tick Tock, Mike. Baroque may well be right - I hope so - but there should be a limit as to how long Kenny waits. I say let’s move on, soon…
Posted by Cwix from Roanoke, VA on 07/13/10 at 06:20 AM ET
Guys (and gals, I dont discriminate). When you have this at home, you’d wanna keep her happy too.
Nsfw: http://www.exbii.com/showthread.php?t=81723
Posted by pensfan29 on 07/13/10 at 06:33 AM ET
Cut him some slack, It probabbly takes a good bit of money to pay his dental bills.
Posted by yreland from Van Dieman's Land on 07/13/10 at 07:24 AM ET
When you have this at home, you’d wanna keep her happy too.
Those might be the two biggest reasons Mikey Mo hasn’t committed to Detroit just yet.
Posted by D4LRob on 07/13/10 at 07:31 AM ET
...a man who will string along one of the most respected sports franchises of all times so that he can leverage their offer into a bigger payday. It’s sickening, it’s depressing, it’s downright apalling.
Don’t forget that this is a business to these guys. It’s easy for us to say that he should take less cash to have a shot at the Cup, but there’s no way any of us (myself damn well included) would take a job that pays half as much as a nearly identical position closer to home (or Willa, in this case). He might have lots of money now, but there’s no promise he won’t blow it all on fire trucks and hookers in the next 5 years.
Posted by D4LRob on 07/13/10 at 07:37 AM ET
We really haven’t talked to Mr. Modano…
All we’ve got is what the media says he said.
I will just assume that his Detroit or retire statement
came before the Tiger game
when Mr I made it clear:
“This is not Colorado,
we will not be retiring your sweater after 1 year.”
Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 07/13/10 at 08:10 AM ET
but there’s no way any of us (myself damn well included) would take a job that pays half as much as a nearly identical position closer to home (or Willa, in this case)
That’s because at the end of the year at my job, the best I can hope for is a cheap bottle of scotch and a pat on the back for helping the business do better than they did the previous year. If I could still live way above comfortably on half my salary (I can’t) and the payoff was a chance that I’d be recognized everywhere as one of the best people to do my job in the entire world, my priorities may be different.
Mike doesn’t owe Detroit a hometown discount, but in the crazy accounting of the NHL world, a player basically does “pay” for the opportunity to be with a winner in taking less salary than the mysterious and vague “open market” offers. That said, depending on how much more San Jose offers, that’s almost a no-brainer. Nowadays “open market” means “shitty teams”, since I can’t wait to see who the Islanders overpay to reach the cap floor. Awesome job on that CBA, Gary. We went from keeping teams that can afford it from overpaying guys to forcing teams that can’t afford it to overpay guys.
Still, he said “Detroit or retire” and is now weighing his option with God knows how many teams. Mike Modano is now in my mind the hockey version of Brett Favre. I’m tired of that shit and I don’t care anymore where he goes, but I don’t want it to be my team.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/13/10 at 08:15 AM ET
It is surprising, although who knows all of the variables that are going into his decision….
I agree with the Chief, if it’s about the money at this stage of his career, screw him….
Posted by Tony from Virginia Beach, VA on 07/13/10 at 08:48 AM ET
He is trying to keep the wife happy….....
Remember Sasquatch leaving Edmonton?
Same issue.
imho
Posted by w2j2 on 07/13/10 at 09:02 AM ET
That said, depending on how much more San Jose offers, that’s almost a no-brainer. Nowadays “open market” means “shitty teams”
We can hate on San Jose all we want but at the end of the day he’d be deciding between our favourite team and the team that beat us in the playoffs last year.
Still, he said “Detroit or retire” and is now weighing his option with God knows how many teams.
To be fair, he said “Detroit or retire” when it looked like Detroit was the only team interested in him.
I don’t hold it against him that he’s waffling, but it just gives me more and more reasons to not want him on Detroit.
I know it’s probably not that apt a comparison, because there’s a huge difference between making $1M or less and making $7.4M, but when we sign a high-profile free agent I want it to be like when we signed Hossa. Holland called up his agent and said “we like your guy, we’d like to have him on the team, but we can only give him one year and we can only give him this much” and he signed the day we gave him the offer. I want someone who actively WANTS to be on the team.
I’m selfish, I know.
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 09:19 AM ET
Modano is going to be a bit like Hull in his last few years. He’s not going to skate his ass off every game, he’s not going to hussle to back check every shift, but if some puts the puck on his tape he’s going to let it rip, and there’s still plenty of juice left in his shot. In the end, isn’t that what the Wings need? Wouldn’t this make the Wings power play absolutely deadly? The circus on the first power play, followed by Hudler, Modano, Fil? Modano adds a little scoring depth to the Wings, and for a team that relied a much too much on Z and Dats last year, it could really help.
Posted by rwingscup19 from Dallas on 07/13/10 at 09:31 AM ET
I have to say, I never cared about Modano. He was our bitch, he played for ateam I did not hate. I kinda respected him for being the leading scorer among Americans, but I can’t take it too seriously.
So, by stating all he stated, “Detroit or retire”, going to Comerica Park, and the Wings courting him like that (lots of stories on the official site, contacting old coaches), he made me care about him. If he goes to another team, I’ll be pissed off, because he gave reasons to. I don’t exactly want him on the team, but I’m not comfortable with the way things are going now.
And sure, he said “Detroit or retire” before anyone else contacted him, but a guy like him should know that the market is open ‘til very late in the offseason (Kovalchuk is unsigned, for fuchs sake), so he could very well keep saying that the decision was between playing or not, instead of dragging the Wings into this.
Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 07/13/10 at 09:32 AM ET
I want someone who actively WANTS to be on the team.
I’m selfish, I know.
Not exactly selfish. I don’t think Kenny or Uncle Mike really want somebody who doesn’t actively WANT to be on the team either.
If he ‘settles’ for the Wings because he couldn’t get a deal done with his first-choice, whomever that may be, then he isn’t worth having on the team. Attitude like that belongs elsewhere.
“To whom much is given, much is expected.”
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 07/13/10 at 09:49 AM ET
In the end, isn’t that what the Wings need?
No. It’s not. The last thing we need is a guy who’s going to loaf and not skate his ass off while taking a roster spot away from a young guy who WILL work his ass off.
Wouldn’t this make the Wings power play absolutely deadly?
Um, no?
but a guy like him should know that the market is open ‘til very late in the offseason
Fair enough, but for a 40-year old guy who’s considering retirement, he’s probably not going to wait till October to decide if he’s going to play. If Detroit didn’t contact him, I’d bet there was a good chance he’d already have announced his retirement at this point.
Kovalchuk’s not signed, but there were 30 teams in the league that would’ve like to sign him and there have been multiple suitors since July 1st. Not exactly the same as “Should I retire or should I uproot my entire life for one year with a new team, the only team that’s shown interest in me?”
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 09:50 AM ET
Wouldn’t this make the Wings power play absolutely deadly? The circus on the first power play, followed by Hudler, Modano, Fil?
Unless you plan on Franzen being injured for 60+ games again this year, I’ll take him over anyone on that 2nd unit.
Posted by D4LRob on 07/13/10 at 09:59 AM ET
Modano would probably play the point on the 2nd unit with Kronwall.
I think it would make our 2nd unit better than last year.
Still, screw his waffling ass.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/13/10 at 10:04 AM ET
We’re loaded with centers, we don’t NEED him. It’d make us better I think and could definately help, if he’d have stood by his words. Now he’s whoring himself and don’t give me the shit about it’s a business, he should be lucky a team like detroit was willing to make room for him. We have Franzen, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Holmstrom… he’s a 3rd line guy, which also has Happy and Bear on it, he should be so lucky. So obviously it’s dollars and cents to him, not winning Lord Stanley’s. Detroit doesn’t need that in our locker room.
Give Abby his minutes to allow him to develop. He’s had a career of exceeding expectations and he’s got an upside that’s untapped, like Franzen in his first two years. This kid will break out. Let him and let Choppers chase his cash out in Cali, it’ll make shakin’ his hand on our way to the Finals all the more sweeter.
Posted by HockeytownOverhaul on 07/13/10 at 10:05 AM ET
Unless you plan on Franzen being injured for 60+ games again this year, I’ll take him over anyone on that 2nd unit.
Yeah, if we’re bringing Modano in to play 3rd line I’m not sure he’s going to be on the power play unless, as someone has said previously, he plays the point. But he’s not a right handed shot and Babcock likes his forwards who play the point on the PP to be righties.
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 10:07 AM ET
Give Abby his minutes to allow him to develop.
Yes. Exactly. Let Abby and Helm play centre, give them their minutes, let them blossom.
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 10:09 AM ET
Now he’s whoring himself and don’t give me the shit about it’s a business…
So obviously it’s dollars and cents to him, not winning Lord Stanley’s.
If it’s about dollars and cents to him, it is most definitely a business.
Posted by D4LRob on 07/13/10 at 10:12 AM ET
Um, if you’ve been following George’s reports from prospects camp you know that Brenden Smith and now Ben Marshall (who I have high Phil Housely like hopes for) are both injured, the latter needs surgery.
We might be in for another long year.
And that might be a good reason to sign additional offensive help.
Posted by Osrt on 07/13/10 at 10:19 AM ET
I’m really not sure I’d count this as stringing anyone along. It’s been a couple of weeks. We all knew that he wanted to weigh his options, and that he was heavily considering retirement. Just because McCosky (who, lets face it, has been a dipshit hack for the better part of his career) says it’s about the money, doesn’t mean that it is.
Maybe. Maybe he’ll decide to play in SJ and he’ll do so for the money, or so he can be closer to home. Then we can start the tirades. But for now, we have no idea what’s running through his head. Neither does McCosky.
I can’t imagine that for a guy who’s made the amount of bank that Mikey Mo has over his career, a difference of a few hundred thousand dollars is going to be the dealbreaker. He likely wants a role that isn’t just a fourth line center / press room “character guy.” It looks like Detroit can give him that. But really… so can SJ and shit, he’d be a top 6 guy for the Wild.
I still think in the end it’ll be Detroit or retire. He may be leaning much more heavily toward retire now, but he’d be a helluva part of #12.
...is it October yet?
Posted by CaptNorris5 from The Winged Wheel, stuck in Chicago on 07/13/10 at 11:05 AM ET
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 07/13/10 at 11:50 AM ET
You just made my stomach hurt…
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 11:05 AM ET
I can’t imagine that for a guy who’s made the amount of bank that Mikey Mo has over his career, a difference of a few hundred thousand dollars is going to be the dealbreaker.
Well (and I’m not trying to directly compare the two) Alexei Yashin got an enormous payday when he was bought out by the Isles, but when other teams came looking to sign him to a bargain salary because of it, he balked, still trying to get full “value” out of anything he signed. Consequently, he’s no longer playing in North America.
And, who knows what the difference really is between the offers? I’ve heard as low as $800K from Detroit and, let’s face it, the Wild, Sharks and (as I’ve also read…somewhere) Ducks can all offer more than that. If he was to sign with Detroit to play on the third line would he be out of line to expect something akin to what Detroit’s current third-liners Hudler and Cleary are making? If Detroit’s offer IS $800K and San Jose offers even $1.5M along with the chance to be closer to his ball and chain, how do you NOT accept that?
What I’m saying is, please San Jose, offer Mike Modano $1.5M and the chance to be closer to his ball and chain. Please.
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 11:15 AM ET
Brenden Smith and now Ben Marshall (who I have high Phil Housely like hopes for)
Yeah, if somebody said he’s like Phil Housely when the puck’s on his stick, that’s high praise indeed. I just think like Housely he’ll probably have to spend a large part of his career playing forward if he wants to make an impact. But realistically, neither of them were expected to compete for spots with the Wings. Brendan Smith probably still can, it looks like he’ll be ready for camp, if a bit out of condition in his upper-body—but he’s still probably GR-bound as he’s waiver-free. Marshall, who knows, probably won’t be at camp, but really the only loss right now is to the Omaha Lancers.
Still gotta wonder if Mikey Mo will be at camp.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 07/13/10 at 11:19 AM ET
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 07/13/10 at 11:50 AM ET
You just made my stomach hurt…
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 12:05 PM ET
Just a little reminder. 
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 07/13/10 at 11:41 AM ET
Unless you plan on Franzen being injured for 60+ games again this year, I’ll take him over anyone on that 2nd unit.
I still think the first PP unit should be Franzen/Holmstrom/Zetterberg up front, with Lidstrom and Datsyuk manning the points. get the Circus out there with the Mule and the best QB in the sport.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 07/13/10 at 11:46 AM ET
I still think the first PP unit should be Franzen/Holmstrom/Zetterberg up front, with Lidstrom and Datsyuk manning the points. get the Circus out there with the Mule and the best QB in the sport.
Damn, now I gotta spend my lunch break running home to get new pants.
Posted by D4LRob on 07/13/10 at 12:00 PM ET
I say we make Holmstrom man the point just to mess with him.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 07/13/10 at 12:03 PM ET
off topic, but I love that the Hawks matched the Sharts offer on nick hjamwersssonnn 3.5 adverage for 4 years. Holy shit I thought this summer was gunna suck living in Chicago, but this is great. I can point and laugh at Hawks fans a month after they win the cup? Thanks Gary.Ass
Posted by Behind_Enemy_Lines from the Big House,January1,2013. already there bitches on 07/13/10 at 12:51 PM ET
n the end, isn’t that what the Wings need?
No. It’s not. The last thing we need is a guy who’s going to loaf and not skate his ass off while taking a roster spot away from a young guy who WILL work his ass off.
Wouldn’t this make the Wings power play absolutely deadly?
Um, no?
so true,
I wonder how many people already started saving for a Modano sweater or even for a season ticket,this wont be good for bussiness,but let the kids play,they were drafted,they toiled in the minors,they deserve it more than some Primodana
Posted by edillac from isolation on 07/13/10 at 01:12 PM ET
As I wrote elsewhere when this all first started to happen, I was ready to change his nickname to Mikey Motown. In retrospect however you might recall that even Motown Records eventually ditched Detroit and went Hollywood, so maybe it was more apropos than I initially suspected. But then again, maybe not. Who knows? Only time will tell.
For Detroit sports fans (and many of us have our own stories as to how and why we ended up scattered about the country), there is a strong thread of loyalty. Since my own family left Michigan I’ve lived in Nashville, Phoenix, NorCal and finally Portland. Trust me I have no love or loyalty for the Preds, the Coyotes or any of the California teams. None. Nada. Niente. Zilch. Hell, there is a successful WHL major-junior team here locally and, though I will go to the games from time to time, I will never wear any of their gear because their logo at their colors are an exact replica of the Blackhawks.
But that’s us – fans. Loyal, true blue, dyed in the wool Dee-troit sports fans. Hell if they flew us in, took us to a Tigers game, wined and dined us and offered any of us a million dollars to be Detroit Red Wing, we would have felt as though we had died and gone to Heaven. But that’s us. We’re not married to a soft-core porn star and divorced from our roots. And while we’re on the topic I have it on good authority that there is indeed top shelf porn being cranked out on a more or less daily basis in a basement in Warren out near the Chrysler truck plant , but I digress.
Strictly from a hockey point of view, no one else can offer what Detroit can. True, he could be a top six guy in Minnesota but would have no shot at winning. He would upgrade the third line in San Jose and might even have a shot at the cup there (I know, I know, stop the laughter!), but take a look at that roster and tell me that he would have any shot at playing on a third line with legit NHL scorers like Happy and Buckets. He wouldn’t.
The reality of the salary cap in San Jose isn’t much different than it is in Detroit. They already tipped their hand in going after Hjalmarsson with a $3.5 mil offer that they are intent on spending most of their cap space to upgrade the blueline. They also have a big ticket item on their agenda in Devin the diver Setoguchi who will probably eat up another $2-3 mil if they want to lock him up long term. They’ve also made it known that they would like to add an experienced goaltender as well. What does that leave? Not much (if any) more than Detroit can offer, and the third line role there would not afford the opportunity to play alongside the same skill level that Detroit would provide. So he may still end up in red and white—assuming that is, that it’s all about hockey and it’s all about winning. Again, only time will tell.
But we don’t have unlimited time at this point and if better options present themselves then I would have to imagine that the brain trust, having been burned by waiting for Hudler a year ago, will pursue those options. If they can find any sort of quality defensive help to stabilize our youth and inexperience on the third pairing then grab that guy. Hell, it might even end up being our old friend Lilja!
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 07/13/10 at 01:13 PM ET
But that’s us – fans. Loyal, true blue, dyed in the wool Dee-troit sports fans. Hell if they flew us in, took us to a Tigers game, wined and dined us and offered any of us a million dollars to be Detroit Red Wing, we would have felt as though we had died and gone to Heaven. But that’s us. We’re not married to a soft-core porn star and divorced from our roots. And while we’re on the topic I have it on good authority that there is indeed top shelf porn being cranked out on a more or less daily basis in a basement in Warren out near the Chrysler truck plant , but I digress.
Damn fine stuff right there WestWing.
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 07/13/10 at 01:17 PM ET
Posted by IwoCPO from Sunny San Diego, bitches on 07/13/10 at 02:17 PM ET
Thanks Chief…hell I try to be less boring than a San Diego weather report whenever possible…I’m assuming it’s sunny and beautiful again today…zzzzz
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 07/13/10 at 01:31 PM ET
Make it stop! Please! Bitches.
Lets Go Red Wings!!!!!
Posted by Kate from Pa.-made in Detroit on 07/13/10 at 01:36 PM ET
We’re not married to a soft-core porn star and divorced from our roots.
Maybe you’re not…
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 01:52 PM ET
Maybe you’re not…
Posted by Garth
hah, baller…damn near Lebda like
Posted by Osrt on 07/13/10 at 03:02 PM ET
What about Brendan Morrison or Slava Koslov?
I didn’t look at numbers, just familiar names. From LeBrun via the main page
Posted by Osrt on 07/13/10 at 03:08 PM ET
Posted by Garth on 07/13/10 at 02:52 PM ET
Well played!
The rapist once told me, the penis mightier than the sword!
Posted by WestWing from Portland, Oregon on 07/13/10 at 03:36 PM ET
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