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by IwoCPO on 05/22/08 at 09:18 AM ET
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Memo to all A2Y readers: the Hasek club car has been hosed, fumigated and refurbished. It is now, once again, open for your patronage. The Stress Train itself won’t leave the station until mid-day tomorrow, but I understand many of you have become homeless since Games 4 and 5 against Dallas. I feel ya. Establish residency for as long as domestic situations require you to do so.
While you’re getting settled, let’s find out what some of the bloggers are saying. First, because I know you like to be shocked in the morning, here’s a compilation of “expert” picks brought to you by the hard workers at Face Off Factor (graphic stolen from Pensblog).
Nifty, eh? When this is said and done I’ll craft an email we can all send to the “pundits” who have caved to Little Gary’s fantasies and picked against the Wings (in some cases, 4 series’ in a row).
Not yet though. Not yet. Hate to sound “arrogant” or give the impression that I feel we are “owed the Stanley Cup.” It seems that a few folk down south are hoping for our demise. I’ll let Acid Queen’s latest headline speak for every roadkill chef south of, well, Detroit.
Wow. Depressing stuff. No idea what she’s referring to. You?
For the most part, the blogging world is pretty pumped about this series. You’ve read the “best matchup since ‘94” lines (better, in my opinion...considering this Final doesn’t include the most overrated captain in hockey history). So have I. If I was an NHL-general fan (do those still exist?), I’d watch this sucker. All 6 games of it. And they’ll be watching up in Canada. Guaranteed.
I know this will drive the Caniacs, amongst others, nuts but I, for one, am excited to have a Final between two (two!?!) non Bettman clubs for the first time in years. No clubs from California or the southern U.S. No clubs that have moved from hockey hotbeds to hockey wastelands. No clubs where the fanbase consists of a total of 25000 terrific, passionate, knowledgeable fans but not a single person more.
As many of you know, I live in the nation’s capital (ol). I live amongst Cap bloggers and you guys know by now that I respect them, mainly because they don’t tell me they hate the Wings when I drink with them. Well, they tell me, but a few of them are pretty big dudes so I let it slide. Plus, there’s always ‘98. Anyway, check this out. You know the Cap fans dislike them some fowl. I guess it’s documented.
Hence, the dilemma of Gustafsson...who’s got a part time gig (yep, I said “gig” and I’m 39. Deal with it.) as a professional voice. A few days ago, he was offered a chance to record the following:
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SUPPLIES ARE LIMITED SO ORDER TODAY!Why couldn’t the audition script have 2 different words — Detroit and “Red Wings” instead of Pittsburgh and Penguins?
Great question. I’ll answer it for you in three words, and I think you know that they are: Thanks Gary. Ass.
Moving on. Moving on.
Matt at The Battle of Alberta believes the Detroit Red Wings will win the Stanley Cup this year, which makes him a genius. He also believes the storyline running rampant amongst the MSM--that Gary’s Baby Boy is desitined to Win a Cup soon, if not this year--may not be the lock many believe it to be.
Guaranteed? Pffft. “A lock” and “a sure thing” are way, way overstating it. And I’m not making a semantic argument here either; I’m simply pointing out the fact that “the Penguins should be a good team for quite a while” is a major step, or steps, short of “they will definitely win a Stanley Cup”. Their best chance to win is right now.
This is a tough league. There are 25 or so teams that are desperate to be the best, stocked with players who want to be the best. Several of them are going to get a lot better—who knows which ones—and I don’t find it that easy to predict that the Penguins will keep getting better.
Matt also mentions the Hossa deadline deal, a trade that sealed the East. This year. Not next, or the year after. Somebody in black and gold needs to get paid. And paid soon. In other words, the team we’ll see Saturday isn’t going to be around forever. There’s no guarantee it will be the same team next October. We, Wing fans, know that better than most. There is no doubt that the Pens are going to compete, and be considered favorites, for years to come. But the idea that it “will happen eventually”? Well..."eventually" meant 14 years for Steve Yzerman. Will Crosby be in Pittsburgh that long? Better question. Will Malkin?
Hey. Seen the Finals’ officials yet? Sure you have. In case you didn’t care enough to look, Mirtle’s got ‘em.
Referees: Paul Devorski (147); Brad Watson (91); Dan O’Halloran (59); Marc Joannette (52).
Linesmen: Jean Morin (134); Jay Sharrers (113); Shane Heyer (97); Pierre Racicot (83).
The big surprise is no Bill McCreary, who had refereed the finals from 1994 to 2007.
Yep, no McCreary’s going to be strange. As for a surprise? I’m surprised Kelly Sutherland wasn’t rewarded by Little Gary. I’m surprised Sutherland wasn’t given the title of CEO and President/Supreme Ruler of all NHL Officials for his piece of trash, pre-meditated, anti-Homer, pro-Bettman, no-reach-around, prison laundry when the guards aren’t looking call in Game 4.
Oh, and if you think that didn’t have an effect? Try 120 more minutes of physical and mental strain. Minutes that could have saved some wear and tear on Zetterberg, Chelios, Drake and Homer. Minutes that would have prevented Lidstrom from being run in Game 6. Another four days for Filppula to rest his knee and every Wing to rest whatever the hell is ailing them. Datsyuk’s goal wins that series in 4.
So, yeah, I guess I’m surprised Sutherland’s not Finals bound.
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Anyone that calls Pierre names is juvenile enough to fit right in.
Anyone with a name like Acid Queen is about as credible as someone babbling on & on while halucinating on rat poison laden peices of paper.
No McCreary, no Fraser and no Sutherland… wonder who the next anti Wing ref is? Little Gary has to have someone waiting in line for that position.
Ticket for the Train is in hand. Beer is on ice.... now we sit and wait & wait some more. Thanks Gary. Ass.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 05/22/08 at 08:55 AM ET
Regarding your last comment, you sound not only surprised but disappointed with Sutherland’s exclusion. I guess Sutherland’s presence would bring at least two automatic wins for Penguins in your mind. And a good point for rants.
But why do you think Gary would like Penguins to win this? Win or lose - they will sellout next year. And will sellout until at least the first season in the new Arena. And what is the better storyline for next season: satisfied Crosby with Cup title cruising through season with nothing to prove or angry and hungry young Penguins trying to win the Cup they were denied last season. I don’t see any valid point why Red Wings Title would be a bad story for the league. Lidstrom raising the Cup and season opener in Sweden next year. Not bad for expanding interest in Europe. And there is nothing bad if the second greatest hockey franchise adds another trophy - they would have at least two trophies in four different decades.
Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia on 05/22/08 at 08:55 AM ET
But why do you think Gary would like Penguins to win this? Win or lose - they will sellout next year. And will sellout until at least the first season in the new Arena. And what is the better storyline for next season: satisfied Crosby with Cup title cruising through season with nothing to prove or angry and hungry young Penguins trying to win the Cup they were denied last season. I don’t see any valid point why Red Wings Title would be a bad story for the league.
Kosta, you’re probably right. I don’t believe he has a preference, other than the one any parent has in wanting their child to succeed. Little Gary, in my opinion, literally believes he is Sidney’s father. I think he’s disregarding medical science, God, and any type of logic you can throw at him. It’s a paternal instinct that Little Gary can’t ignore.
But many other factors point to Bettman’s anti-Wing biases. Little things like the ridiculous octopus ruling to larger issues like the officials’ blatant agenda regarding Holmstrom, then on to much bigger issues like keeping Detroit in the Western Conference.
I have no doubt, also, that Mike Ilitch was dead-set against the lockout, that Ken Holland and Jimmy Devellano have blasted Bettman in forums fans don’t have access to and that Bettman (because he’s a little man) holds serious grudges against the Wings for those reasons.
And, finally, here’s what I subscribe to: Gary Bettman is an ass. He is holding this sport, and this league, back through decisions that would have had any executive fired from any other job. The owners, minus a few, love him though...because he got them their Cap. So he stays, no matter the damage he’s wrought.
I don’t remember your other questions. I’m tired and my lips are so cold.
Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC on 05/22/08 at 09:07 AM ET
Having watched enough of the Eastern playoffs already, I’ve got my circle around Paul Devorski’s name.
Yeah, he’s the guy with the most experience, he’s also been quite poor and has done plenty of Pens games so far.
Posted by HockeyJoe from NY on 05/22/08 at 09:10 AM ET
Asterisk for Barry Melrose!
He did indeed pick the Wings, but he was very reluctant about it. The deciding factor was their experience and the conventional wisdom that “every team needs to lose before they learn how to win.”
He wasn’t happy about it, but went with Detroit through default.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 05/22/08 at 09:19 AM ET
And, finally, here’s what I subscribe to: Gary Bettman is an ass. He is holding this sport, and this league, back through decisions that would have had any executive fired from any other job. The owners, minus a few, love him though...because he got them their Cap. So he stays, no matter the damage he’s wrought.
I’m subscribing to this, too. If this banana government of NHL continues with its ways, Russian Superleague may become the top league in the world. They have Gasprom money which can buy you a lot of things.
Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia on 05/22/08 at 09:24 AM ET
Ack Melrose picked the Wings! Major bummer. I’m so glad I can get back on the train, it has been really hard sleeping out here next to the tracks waiting for boarding. With all this time in between games (Thanks, Gary, ass.) all it has done is give time for the stress to build. I think it is a bit strange to have a Finals where we can’t really gauge the other team stacking up against the Wings because we haven’t played them this year (in the regular season). Again, I say, thanks, Gary, ASS!
Posted by hockeychic from Denver, CO on 05/22/08 at 09:26 AM ET
Explanation:
banana government of NHL - you can’t have an expansion team if bananas can’t grow outside your arena.
Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia on 05/22/08 at 09:26 AM ET
Battle of Alberta is one of the smartest blogs around, even if you don’t follow either the Flames or the Oilers.
Besides, the Penguins can’t win next year - Montreal is all set up to win the Cup to celebrate their anniversary. This whole season was to get Carey Price a little bit of playoff experience so he is ready to go all the way next year. 
Matt is dead on - the best laid plans don’t always hold to form once the puck is dropped. The Senators looked like world-beaters at the beginning of the season, a sure thing to make it back to the Finals and build on their disappointment of last year and win this time, but it didn’t work out that way.
The Penguins will definitely be Cup contenders for the foreseeable future, but to guarantee they will win a Cup at some point - that’s pushing it.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 05/22/08 at 09:27 AM ET
You know how the NHL handles pre-destiny?
Check out the 1983 Edmonton Oilers.
Posted by HockeyJoe from NY on 05/22/08 at 09:32 AM ET
Just kill me now.
Blah.
Maybe she missed the blow-out sale on big-butt, one-piece swimsuits at the Lane Bryant store?
Posted by O-Joe on 05/22/08 at 09:32 AM ET
I have no doubt, also, that Mike Ilitch was dead-set against the lockout…
You’re damn right, Chief.
The lockout took money and success away from clubs that rightfully earned it with dedication and winning, and gave it to clubs that continued in the red regardless. The lockout fortified about 20 owners, but I would be willing to bet that the other 10 felt resentment on a regular basis for a two or three year period surrounding the lockout (see Detroit, Philly, New York Rangers, Montreal, Toronto, Colorado, Minnesota, even Dallas).
Posted by Nathan from Jonny Ericsson's ice cream truck on 05/22/08 at 09:33 AM ET
Chief -
McCreary was one of the two ( I think) long-tenured officials who stepped aside for the playoffs, IIRC. Ther thought being that they needed to give some of the other officials big-game experience before the guys like McCreary retired.
Posted by Primis on 05/22/08 at 10:56 AM ET
...I have no doubt, also, that Mike Ilitch was dead-set against the lockout, that Ken Holland and Jimmy Devellano have blasted Bettman in forums fans don’t have access to and that Bettman (because he’s a little man) holds serious grudges against the Wings for those reasons…
Posted by IwoCPO from Washington, DC on 05/22 at 10:07 AM
Chief --
You forgot about little gary’s idiotic wish to license/franchise out the concept of HOCKEYTOWN to the other 29 NHL teams. Mr. I denied that wish, earning even more spite from l.g.
Explanation:
banana government of NHL - you can’t have an expansion team if bananas can’t grow outside your arena.Posted by Kosta from Surcin, Serbia on 05/22 at 10:26 AM
Ohhh...I thought you referring to the NHL as a “banana republic” (i.e., a small country with severely limited exports, usually fruit, that is typically ruled by a widely despised dictator or military junta).
I guess either definition is true.
The lockout took money and success away from clubs that rightfully earned it with dedication and winning, and gave it to clubs that continued in the red regardless. The lockout fortified about 20 owners, but I would be willing to bet that the other 10 felt resentment on a regular basis for a two or three year period surrounding the lockout (see Detroit, Philly, New York Rangers, Montreal, Toronto, Colorado, Minnesota, even Dallas).
Posted by Nathan on 05/22 at 10:33 AM
Why just two or three years? Did little gary wake up this a.m. and rescind revenue sharing? Did he suddenly decide to advise refs that they shouldn’t call phantom penalties to keep weaker teams in games? Did he resign so he can be by his adopted son’s side, unabashedly cheering on the Penguins, at the SCF?
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 05/22/08 at 11:12 AM ET
I just watched the series preview on cbcsports.ca. They’re going “kids vs. dads” - “kids in six”.
Posted by lilja4ever on 05/22/08 at 11:39 AM ET
Well the Hasek is opened in the nick of time. Seems management here is blaming me for the latest event whereby several of the lads swam in the pool all nekkie testing the prognostications of dear Baroque and that “dangling” comment from a thread gone by. All was well, until several of the wags decided to try the backstroke. Not a pretty site, so I’m told. Personally, I was out replacing the nine iron that was lost in that incident in Dallas.
On to the Hasek! One quick stop in Indian Wells and I picked up a pound of hubris from a young man named Joel. Rumored to be the “good stuff”. I shall leave a bowl on the bar in the Hasek, help yourself.
So little Gary is serving up young flightless birds for the next go round and pray tell, the Wings are...underdogs! How novel. Perhaps the Hasek needs a BBQ on the back deck. Something with a rotissirie and a large skewer...I sense a feast coming on.
Posted by Rumbear from Betty Ford Center, Outbound. on 05/22/08 at 11:59 AM ET
Why just two or three years?
Simply because, at some point, those owners had to let it go and focus on how things are, not how things were, or how things should be.
That’s one thing I think a successful owner does, and that’s why Detroit has been successful in the cap era.
People that succeed and make money don’t do it by refusing to let past mistakes, successes, failures, or consequential actions go. They get on with it.
Posted by Nathan from Jonny Ericsson's ice cream truck on 05/22/08 at 12:11 PM ET
daing...you guys are cranking up the wit around here and I’m falling behind.
YZ: triple score for using the word “junta” in a post.
If McCreary did step aside that’s very cool, but also disappointing because he does a great job. Sutherland, however, can freeze his squirrelly nuts in an ice machine. I’m not sure if Gary(.Ass) has any say in who refs the finals, or if that is left up entirely to the head of officiating; either way, I think he felt like an (eve bigger) ass for having to go on the radio and make a claim about Marty’s stick.
Conspiracy theory alert:
What if these refs were chose precisely because they have less experience and could be, um, persuaded out of neutrality?
bum bum baaaaaaaammm
Posted by Osrt on 05/22/08 at 12:11 PM ET
I made no suggestions of the sort!
Merely an observation that appendages limit streamlining, which is far more important in moving smoothly through water than air, so any extensions of the body increase drag. I never intimated that anyone should test penis drag by a skinnydipping experiment.
No pictures? Or did the camera lenses crack? 
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 05/22/08 at 12:15 PM ET
...People that succeed and make money don’t do it by refusing to let past mistakes, successes, failures, or consequential actions go. They get on with it.
Posted by Nathan on 05/22 at 01:11 PM
Guess that explains my current financial situation...and why I won’t be attending any SCF games. 
No pictures? Or did the camera lenses crack?
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 05/22 at 01:15 PM
All of the hockey paparazzi are busy stalking Dion and Elisha...or as I like to call them “Delisha.”
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 05/22/08 at 12:28 PM ET
Despite all of the comments suggesting Gary’s anti-Wing bias, Kevin, the reason Gary wants to see Crosby hold up the cup is because it would be good publicity to people who know jack about hockey. Ask someone who’s never seen a hockey game to name a single person attached to the sport and you’ll get Wayne Gretzky. Ask them to name a second one and you’ll get a blank stare.
The NHL needs the new poster boy to live up to the hype. He can’t do that if he doesn’t turn his team - and Bettman couldn’t care less what team that is - into a new dynasty. Does that translate into some sort of competitive advantage for the Penguins? Nah, not really.
I don’t share the sentiment of my fellow 19 that Gary has a particular vendetta against Detroit. It doesn’t make any sense, simply because it implies that Bettman gives a shit about the game. Besides, as I’ve said before, if the Wings really are Bettman’s black sheep, so be it. They’ve been the most successful team in the league since he’s started tinkering with it. And unlike the Devils and the Avs, they Wings weren’t decimated during the lockout when Gary took his football and went home. I’ve said it before...Gary’s a skidmark on the jockey shorts of the NHL, but the stain doesn’t touch the Detroit Red Wings.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 05/22/08 at 12:29 PM ET
Oh, and if anyone’s looking for a little proof of my Gretzy 2.0 theory, all you need to do is take aonther look at that new promo from the NHL. You know, the one that’s given us all the chills? Who do you think they ended on? The most recent Cup winner? Someone who’s even hoisted it in the last decade?
Nope.
The Great One’s legacy is fading as a whole new generation of would-be fans never even saw him play. They need a new face.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 05/22/08 at 12:36 PM ET
Sorry Baroque, no fotos...I was out shopping. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
The Wings have been the League’s and Little Gary’s tool for years. The Western Conference has been built on the back of Gretzky and that the Wings were coming to town. Now the outposts are thriving and he needs a boost for the East and the sagging interest. Enter the Baby Boy. The Wings are cast off like last years prom date. Don’t get mad, it’s just business. Of course, the Wings have to cooperate and therein lies the rub. They won’t.
Penguin. It’s what’s for dinner.
Posted by Rumbear from The Hasek. I'll be here all week. on 05/22/08 at 12:53 PM ET
I really hope that the “desitined” was on purpose. If not, leave it.
Posted by Ian from San Diego on 05/22/08 at 01:22 PM ET
Holy cap, Ian...that’s a great catch. Too funny.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 05/22/08 at 01:30 PM ET
Ian you’re a bloody genius. That is freaking hilarious.
Dan
Posted by ITDeuce from Michigan on 05/22/08 at 01:38 PM ET
Maybe she missed the blow-out sale on big-butt, one-piece swimsuits at the Lane Bryant store?
Classy.
Posted by AcidQueen from Raleigh, NC on 05/22/08 at 02:48 PM ET
“Gary’s a skidmark on the jockey shorts of the NHL”. Gabe, that is so brilliant it’s scintillating… and the truth.
Posted by Mike from La-La Land on 05/22/08 at 04:00 PM ET
Hey, I’m no genius, Iwo is, whether or not he knows it (I’m sure he does).
Gabriel, you’re in SD? Where? We should watch a cup game.
Posted by Ian from San Diego on 05/22/08 at 04:10 PM ET
Thanks for cleaning the train Chief. All these Pens bandwagons are just dirty and overcrowded up here.
Gotta love the logic of some of my fellow Canadians. “Sidney Crosby’s Canadian, go Pens!” Umm, Kris Draper, Kirk Maltby (have to give the hometown guy a shout out) and Chris Osgood to name three are Canadian. Why not Go Wings? I guess they aren’t pretty enough like Gary’s golden boy.
Posted by Alex in Cambridge, Ontario (Canada EH!) on 05/22/08 at 09:50 PM ET
Or maybe she’s in pain with bruises all over her body from men pushing her away with 10-foot poles?
Posted by O-Joe on 05/23/08 at 05:55 AM ET
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Sadly, however, I noticed that the Mullet picked the Wings to win. Harbinger?
/Thanks for hosing down the Hasek.
//Do the Pens have their own train? Do they clean it out real good with vinegar and water?
Posted by Scott H from Kalamazoo on 05/22/08 at 08:38 AM ET