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Waive Goodbye To Mac
by IwoCPO on 11/18/08 at 01:02 PM ET
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Updated: Tick Tock, on the Fan 590, just said that if Mac clears, he’s staying in Detroit.
I’m sure the emperor has beaten me to this, and if you’re reading this on the main page for the second time, I feel real and sincere shame.
Via TSN,
The Detroit Red Wings placed forward Darren McCarty on waivers on Tuesday.
McCarty, 36, signed a one-year contract with the Wings in the offseason after re-joining the club last winter and helping lead the team to its fourth Stanley Cup in 11 years.
More from our Diggers as I get it.
Here’s what I’ve learned: Administrative in nature, almost. As Heaton put it over at the main page, this happened once already this year to Mac and probably will again…as it did with Downey all last season. We’re all assuming he clears, that he’ll re-join, and this will be an afterthought. Heaton just emailed me and made a good point. He doesn’t believe Mac will see a minute in GR this year and hasn’t thought that since he read Tick Tock’s quote saying he considered McCarty like a son. Not in a Bettman/Thid kind of way, either. Sickos.
That’s what others are telling me. Here’s what I’m telling you: I have no idea. I don’t understand it, not that it’s all that complicated. Just like I can’t figure out how to post something about whether we can keep “all 3” because the Cap and all that goes with it makes me sad and confused. I’ll ge to that…eventually.
Now, since this (Mac on waivers) is going to generate the conversation….we’re a month into the season, Cleary’s out indefinitely because some hack of a doctor apparently stuck a butter knife in his eye. Leino’s tearing up the AHL. Maybe it’s time to give him a shot, a look-see, eh?
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this is a flexibility move, incase they get an injury to a goaltender and have to clear cap room for Howard of Larsson
Posted by Pharazon from England on 11/18/08 at 01:31 PM ET
This is what they did all last year with Downey, I believe Downey was waived 4 or 5 times.
Isn’t there an increasing risk with Mac being picked up by another team, though? He’s been pretty solid over the past games.
Posted by lilja4ever on 11/18/08 at 01:36 PM ET
Just more Salary Cap BS,
and it looks like the USA is following little gary’s
Socialist ways.
Posted by HockeyTownTodd on 11/18/08 at 01:42 PM ET
Isn’t there an increasing risk with Mac being picked up by another team, though? He’s been pretty solid over the past games
I doubt it. There’s probably a GM asterisk on the guy that says if you make him move away from his kids, he’ll probably start drinking again.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 11/18/08 at 01:44 PM ET
I think the liklihood of another team claiming Mac off of waivers is about as much Malkin actually running for POTUS (Sorry Pittsburgh)
Posted by Animal Drew from A Nightmare on Helm Street on 11/18/08 at 01:45 PM ET
More flexibility BS. It means as much as the cap does. It’s risky, but we did it with Downey last year and never lost him. D-Mac is such an inextricable part of the Wings that I don’t think there’s much likelihood of him being picked up.
And SHAME on The Highlander, for this sentence:
Again, I never would have thought it last spring. McCarty has turned me into a fan.
Where the hell has McLeod been the past fifteen years? He’s only NOW a fan?
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 11/18/08 at 01:59 PM ET
I doubt it. There’s probably a GM asterisk on the guy that says if you make him move away from his kids, he’ll probably start drinking again.
That’s mean and entirely unworthy of this comments section.
I’m glad you guys are relaxed about this, cause I was about to flip the F&$@ OUT. He’s played much better over the past few games and is on an upward swing. The fight last night was solid.
But, yea, Leino is makin’ it rain down there and he needs a ho in this area code. I’m good with that.
Come back soon Mac.
Posted by Osrt on 11/18/08 at 02:24 PM ET
Where the hell has McLeod been the past fifteen years? He’s only NOW a fan?
I thought the same thing, But I can forgive him for being skeptical. Mac’s return seemed to be more about nostalgia than it did about maintaining our competitive edge. He’s proving some people wrong.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 11/18/08 at 02:32 PM ET
That’s mean and entirely unworthy of this comments section.
Wow Osrt, didn’t intend for it to come across as mean-spirited at all. There’s no bigger fan of his than me…as I mentioned before, I have his gear from his 10 games with the Generals to prove it…but it’s been pretty well documented that his comeback started with his kids, and then his love for this team. You take him away and you run the risk of extinguishing the fire that launched his comeback. I would think that was fairly obvious to other GMs, but sorry if it came across more crass than intended. I don’t think Mac’s going anywhere.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 11/18/08 at 02:36 PM ET
I’m pretty sure it has to do with the possibility of a goalie injury. Because we’re carrying the extra personnel on our roster, it would normally take 24 hours to make a roster move. With Mac already having cleared waivers (ideally) that roster change can take place immediately, enabling a goalie to be sent up in case of a minor injury or something to one of the two.
Posted by halomasterd4n on 11/18/08 at 02:38 PM ET
omg, r u serious!
McCarty is awful. What’d he play, round 5 minutes last night? And that’s being generous.
No one in hell would pick him up off waivers. Why he is here, and helm and leino aren’t is crazy.
And why did we sign McCarty in the first place. THAT IS WHAT WASNT FAIR TO HIM. (but its either detroit or nowhere I suppose).
Still more upsetting is we have Maltby and Lilja still on the team. WTF!!! Kyle Quincey anyone? Anyone think that he’s going to be a solid second line d-man for the next 15 years? He sure is playing like it. (8 points in 14 games, -1, 22 min per nite) not bad for being 22 and on one of the worst teams in the league.
Posted by DrW from Detroit on 11/18/08 at 02:42 PM ET
omg, r u serious!
Starting a comment like that is akin to soiling yourself onstage before you begin singing. Nothing you say after that will be taken seriously. However…
McCarty is awful. What’d he play, round 5 minutes last night? And that’s being generous.
Not sure what game you were watching…Mac’s first shift generated sustained pressure and he looked dangerous. He’s been positionally solid - especially when a lot of the other veterans haven’t been - and has made the most of the time begin given him. What I’d love to know is how him being given 5 minutes somehow equates to him being “awful”.
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 11/18/08 at 02:53 PM ET
Not sure what game you were watching…Mac’s first shift generated sustained pressure and he looked dangerous. He’s been positionally solid - especially when a lot of the other veterans haven’t been - and has made the most of the time begin given him. What I’d love to know is how him being given 5 minutes somehow equates to him being “awful”.
Obviously somebody playing 5 minutes behind Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Filppula, Hossa, Holmstrom, Franzen and Hudler automatically qualifies as “awful”.
Posted by halomasterd4n on 11/18/08 at 03:02 PM ET
Two more people that no nothing about hockey. That’s all I’m going to say, but then I started typing…
You probably also don’t think Crosby and Malkin aren’t any good, that Lilja is the best thing since sliced bread, that the grind line is as “awesome” as ever. Pathetic. And your presidential candidate lost too. Only McCainiacs would post such retarded drivel on a blog.
And if you mean good positionally, I would have to say he was. Was consistently in the defensive zone struggling to get the puck past center ice.
I dont even know what to say about the ice time issue….except that playing behind the players listed above doesnt make you awful. Being a washed up has been who takes roster spots away from youth because the organization feels bad for him makes you awful.
I think that anyone, anyone in the league could take his spot. Aaron Downey = 100x better.
And both of you obviously took me serious enough to respond. OMG LOL
Posted by DrW from Detroit on 11/18/08 at 03:57 PM ET
DrW:
Right. Just because you’re bad at presenting arguments means we know nothing about hockey. You’re the one who used ice time as a factor to prove that he is awful. The fact is, McCarty has been more effective the past few games, and is not, in fact, as awful as you say. He’s still probably going to lose his spot to Cleary once his eye is healed. Nobody claimed he was amazing, but if he was truly awful, then you can bet he wouldn’t have the roster spot in favor of somebody like Helm or Leino.
Just because I respond, doesn’t mean I take you seriously. I’m actually just kind of bored, and would rather waste it talking to internet trolls about hockey than anything productive.
Posted by halomasterd4n on 11/18/08 at 04:06 PM ET
I think DrW is someone I have seen on the Freep boards a few times. he loves to tell everyone how little they know about hockey while exposing his own ignorance in the most blatant and obvious ways. just ignore him.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 11/18/08 at 04:36 PM ET
I’d just like to say I voted for Obama and think McCarty has done well so far.
Posted by Tyler from Arizona on 11/18/08 at 05:18 PM ET
^Hah, in Arizona too. You, friend, are clearly going to burn in a special section of hell. 
You probably also don’t think Crosby and Malkin aren’t any good
Double negative. Beautiful.
that Lilja is the best thing since sliced bread, that the grind line is as “awesome” as ever.
Reading comprehension isn’t a part of your skill set, huh?
*Gabe: I was being ironical. I did think you were poking fun at Mac but I dug it. Good explanation though; we should probably forward that to the GMs in case they didn’t get it.
Posted by Osrt on 11/18/08 at 05:48 PM ET
Wow, let’s not let the troll get us started on politics. I’d really rather live in ignorance of who ya’ll voted for.
Where the hell has McLeod been the past fifteen years? He’s only NOW a fan?
It’s unfortunate phrasing, as I’m sure he’s been a fan of Mac for a long time, if not a fan of him having a spot on the roster. But I have to say that I agree with the sentiment. When Mac first came up from Grand Rapids, I was definitely skeptical; the speed of the comeback seemed incredible. I thought the timing made sense in terms of getting the team in the right attitude for the playoffs, but his play wasn’t exactly exceptional. Plus I like Downey, for all that the kid couldn’t totally skate, and I missed his fights. I was always happy for Mac as a person, but it wasn’t until recently that I believed that he deserved to be on the roster not just because of who he is, but because of how he plays.
Posted by Sadie from Ann Arbor, MI on 11/18/08 at 05:53 PM ET
Politics is for grown ups….. hence it has no place here.
Seriously?
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 11/18/08 at 06:17 PM ET
Starting a comment like that is akin to soiling yourself onstage before you begin singing. Nothing you say after that will be taken seriously. However…
What if soiling yourself is part of the act?
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 11/18/08 at 06:32 PM ET
I apologize.
I like this blog.
I still dont like McCarty.
I hope no one takes everything i say seriously. Im a jaded pens fan who grew up watching red wings.
Posted by DrW from Detroit on 11/18/08 at 06:38 PM ET
And also, I don’t have the best grammar. Never did. In addition I don’t go back to my random blog thoughts to proofread them to make sure they are correct. So if you want to critique may knowledge about hockey thats cool, but grammar, c’mon.
Posted by DrW from Detroit on 11/18/08 at 06:51 PM ET
What if soiling yourself is part of the act?
I’m pretty sure the Ozzman shat himself during the show I saw him at last year, but I’ll be damned if I didn’t respect him more for it…
OMG LOL
please, stop, its hurts
Posted by rwingscup19 from Dallas on 11/18/08 at 06:58 PM ET
I’m pretty sure the Ozzman shat himself during the show I saw him at last year, but I’ll be damned if I didn’t respect him more for it…
That’s just Ozzie being Ozzie.
In other news, my PC just went up in a puff of smoke so now I’m crouched over my eight year old laptop, pondering my next move. Thanks Gary.Ass
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 11/18/08 at 07:21 PM ET
How to instantly detect someone outside of The 19:
omg, r u serious!
that no nothing about hockey.
(Does DrW mean “know” or does typing the requisite two extra letters require too much effort for someone of his generation?)
And your presidential candidate lost too. Only McCainiacs would post such retarded drivel on a blog.
Wow somehow you are able to make the presumptuous jump into politics, and use the term “retarded”... give it a rest “dude” (and I use that term loosely).
Aaron Downey = 100x better.
Not if you consider hockey ability.
“Dude”... go back to mlive with the other pre-teens.
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 11/18/08 at 07:33 PM ET
I have his gear from his 10 games with the Generals to prove it.
Gabe, take the gear off now and go mow the lawn.
Posted by Rumbear from Top O da Hasek, when in doubt, pinky out on 11/18/08 at 07:58 PM ET
Gabe, take the gear off now and go mow the lawn.
Indecent exposure while mowing the lawn. Wow. Is Ken Daniels coming to town or something?
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 11/18/08 at 08:25 PM ET
Gabe, take the gear off now and go mow the lawn.
Can you..(waving hand in front of the montior)...can you see me?
What if soiling yourself is part of the act?
The Aristocrats!
Posted by Gabriel from San Diego, CA on 11/18/08 at 08:32 PM ET
So, a guy walks into Dr. Rahmani’s office….
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 11/18/08 at 08:40 PM ET
Can you..(waving hand in front of the montior)...can you see me?
closer…now further…now closer…now further…
Posted by rwingscup19 from Dallas on 11/18/08 at 08:51 PM ET
I apologize.
I like this blog.
I still dont like McCarty.
I hope no one takes everything i say seriously. Im a jaded pens fan who grew up watching red wings.
Respect.
Posted by Osrt on 11/18/08 at 10:38 PM ET
Ignore the troll and peek at the main page for a good laugh on the Dive.
What a glorious way to start a day!
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 11/19/08 at 08:45 AM ET
^Speaking of the Dive, George is reporting that Claude has moved up to a yet undisclosed AHL team.
http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2008/11/checking_in_on_our_old_friend.html
That’s some ish
please sign with the dive
please sign with the dive
please sign with the dive
please sign with the dive
....
Posted by Osrt on 11/19/08 at 01:02 PM ET
No worries this time. George reports via the Free Press that Mac cleared.
Also, I’m thinkin Cleary needs to hit IR. That eye thing is just drawing out to long.
Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 11/19/08 at 03:30 PM ET
If he does end up missing 10 games with the eye, they can put him on the LTIR retroactive to the first game missed and free up the cap space. I think they’re holding out because he’ll be back before then.
Posted by halomasterd4n on 11/19/08 at 05:21 PM ET
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I’ll post the same thing I did on a few other boards. He’ll get waived again in December but he won’t be reassigned to GR. This is what they did all last year with Downey, I believe Downey was waived 4 or 5 times.
Posted by Heaton on 11/18/08 at 01:07 PM ET