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Why So Blue Panda Bear?
by IwoCPO on 06/07/09 at 10:11 AM ET
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Great crowd in Detroit. Lots of tv interest in “his” game. Two great teams in the Final.
But this man doesn’t look happy. Wonder why.
Maybe because this is the “face of the NHL”?
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I think calling Crosby a whiner/diver/cryer is secret code for “I’m a dumbass” in hockey circles.
Posted by Joe on 06/07/09 at 10:21 AM ET
nice color on the pics, RW. my camera never comes out like that off the TV. did you do something special?
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 06/07/09 at 11:13 AM ET
Those were actually from my phone camera, not as good as the Panasonic that my daughter has at the moment.
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 06/07/09 at 10:24 AM ET
Here is the video from my phone cam. A little grainy. If it’s up elsewhere I won’t redo it with the Panasonic.
He really looks like he’s trying to figure out how to fix it for Pittsburgh. He could not look any more disappointed.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rwbill/3603174951/
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 06/07/09 at 10:27 AM ET
“face of the NHL”?
That is disturbing. That’s a face made for radio. Or a zoo.
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 06/07/09 at 10:28 AM ET
I think calling Crosby a whiner/diver/cryer is secret code for “I’m a dumbass” in hockey circles
Trolling on a Wings board when not a Wings fan = true intelligence.
And for the record, the pacifier was still in the mouth. Keep it in your mouth kid, someone might snatch it from your blubbering lips…. ask Patricia Kane about that.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/07/09 at 10:30 AM ET
Oh wait…another secret code: “Gary Bettman has fixed the SCF”
translates to
“I can’t accept reality.”
Hey, did you ever think that Bettman is more concerned about the fact that a 5-0 blowout even happened in the SCF? If you’re wanting to maintain ratings, you want the games to be good and back-and-forth, not one team simply owning the other. THAT’s why Bettman looks sad, and not because of some stupid conspiracy theory that arrogant fans had to make up in order to sleep at night.
Posted by Joe on 06/07/09 at 10:31 AM ET
I threw the video clip up on Youtube in case anyone wants to embed it. it’s still processing, though…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ew84MplyjM
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 06/07/09 at 10:31 AM ET
Maybe he was thinking about the Phoenix Coyotes. He even looks that constipated when a team the league would like to be successful for marketing purposes is winning (just a little less unhappy). Seriously, if the man can never, ever take joy in anything, I feel bad for him. Maybe he should find another job that will give him more fulfillment and less stress.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/07/09 at 10:32 AM ET
concerned about a blowout? no. concerned that his favorite team and favorite player made asses of themselves on national television, acting like little babies? yes.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 06/07/09 at 10:33 AM ET
Your logic and apparent vast stores of information are astounding, PaulinMiamiBeach.
Posted by Joe on 06/07/09 at 10:35 AM ET
And what is it with all these kids chewing on their mouthguards like puppies on rubber bones? They aren’t chew toys, guys - they are supposed to help protect your teeth. Is it the same kind of thing as kids “losing” their glasses when they are away from their parents because they don’t like them? It just seems silly.
(And I wonder how many Chicago fans were also laughing at Patrick Kane getting his mouthguard tossed, because they were just as irritated by it as anyone else.) 
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/07/09 at 10:35 AM ET
And just like their captain, the petulant Pens fans come creeping out of the cracks, eyes red and tear filled, but ready to troll anyhow.
Red. Hmm. You know, I like that color. Especially when the ones wearing it are putting pucks into the back of your net.
Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 06/07/09 at 10:35 AM ET
Priceless.
How’s the pain, Pen(i)s fans??? Does it hurt??
Good.
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/07/09 at 10:36 AM ET
concerned about a blowout? no. concerned that his favorite team and favorite player made asses of themselves on national television, acting like little babies? yes.
Cha-fuching-ching
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/07/09 at 10:37 AM ET
Nah, I wouldn’t say that I’m crying. Embarassed, definitely. There are still 2 more games in the series. Keeping hope alive is part of being a fan. What I’m really “trolling” about, I guess, is this persistent belief that there is a conspiracy and that Sid is a whiner and a cryer, etc. Where is the logic and information behind this belief? I know I probably can’t change your minds, but Jesus, people think the NHL is rolling in black helicopters and stabbing people in the back of the neck with alien spikes. Yes, that is an X-Files reference. I’m just trying to understand it.
Posted by Joe on 06/07/09 at 10:39 AM ET
INDIVIDUAL games are fine as blowouts - it’s the blowout sweep series that are bad for ratings, as long as a series goes back and forth it doesn’t matter what the scores of the games are as much in terms of interest.
Besides, it isn’t as though Detroit scored five goals in each period. The Penguins still had about half the game left to come back from a 3-0 deficit, if they hadn’t gotten pissy about it and concentrated on playing better defensively, helping out their goaltender, and getting even one goal by the end of the second period. That would have been 3-1 after 40 minutes, and they could have very reasonably come back from that to send it to overtime - IF they had acted like professionals instead of throwing a tantrum that things weren’t going their way.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/07/09 at 10:39 AM ET
And MOs photo below, of course, was not a holding penalty, although it prevented Cleary from getting his stick on the puck as it slid through the crease in front of his feet.
Good defensive play? Okay, then stop your bitching about the refs.
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 06/07/09 at 10:40 AM ET
Shut the *#$%@& up Detroit fans. Your city is a joke. I hope GM moves to Mexico and you all lose your jobs.
Posted by LeMag66 from PAW on 06/07/09 at 10:41 AM ET
What I’m really “trolling” about, I guess, is this persistent belief that there is a conspiracy and that Sid is a whiner and a cryer, etc. Where is the logic and information behind this belief
Seriously? SERIOUSLY????
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/07/09 at 10:42 AM ET
Shut the *#$%@& up Detroit fans. Your city is a joke. I hope GM moves to Mexico and you all lose your jobs.
LOL.
How’s that embarrassing loss treating you today??
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/07/09 at 10:43 AM ET
Besides, it isn’t as though Detroit scored five goals in each period
LOL!!!!
Pens fans are amazing, simply amazing!
Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/07/09 at 10:44 AM ET
For Joe’s benefit, could someone go back and find all that discussion we had a few days ago where we used virutual air quotes around the word conspiracy because we don’t really think that, as the league isn’t smart enough or well organized enough to pull that off, but there are definitely more advantageous outcomes from a marketing standpoint, and although the league would not actually fix games, they won’t be too upset about errors or inconsistencies that work out to the benefit of those outcomes?
I can’t remember the title of the post where all that discussion happened right now.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/07/09 at 10:44 AM ET
I think calling Crosby a whiner/diver/cryer is secret code for “I’m a dumbass” in hockey circles.
Wow, you’ve just called pretty much every fan in the NHL that isn’t a Pens fan a dumbass. That takes some stones. I bet you’d do it in real life too because you’re 6’3’‘, 3 bills. Thanks for your input, it’s always (that’s secret code for ‘never’) valued around here.
Between the teenage ‘stache, the pubic beard (thx Allen Ginsberg), the expression on his face and the anguish in his eyes, Crysby looks nothing more than a piece of trailer trash after seeing his hot-pantsed wife with the local grease monkey.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/07/09 at 10:44 AM ET
has anyone seen the NHL Network commercial with Crosby in a dark room? Im pretty sure he is wearing bright pink lipstick….
Posted by wingsnut25 from Sault Sainte Marie, MI on 06/07/09 at 10:45 AM ET
Shut the *#$%@& up Detroit fans. Your city is a joke. I hope GM moves to Mexico and you all lose your jobs.
Posted by LeMag66 from PAW on 06/07/09 at 11:41 AM ET
Say what you will, we won’t delete your comments here (or a 1/2 live blog for that matter) we won’t ban you even with your clear lack of thought, wit or intelligence. Troll away.
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/07/09 at 10:45 AM ET
“Logic and information?”
Have you watched the Penguins since they drafted Crosby? Or did you just tune in within the past two years? Crosby has a reputation. There’s your logic and information.
Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 06/07/09 at 10:45 AM ET
that Sid is a whiner and a cryer, etc. Where is the logic and information behind this belief?
ask the NHL’s players.
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/story/?id=268421&hubname=nhl-capitals
In a recent poll, more than 50 percent of the players in the league pointed to Crosby as the game’s biggest whiner.
the next player on the list got 8%.
oh, and this is a good one, too:
In an astonishing survey of 324 NHL players—roughly half the league —conducted by Sports Illustrated, Crosby finished tied for eighth with a meager 1.9 percent of the vote.
Washington’s Alex Ovechkin was the overwhelming winner among the players, receiving 51 percent of the vote. Detroit defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom was second with 11 percent.
The next four were the Penguins Evgeni Malkin and Detroit’s Pavel Datsyuk seven percent; Calgary’s Jarome Iginla and Detroit’s Henrik Zetterberg five percent.
Z and Dats voted higher than Crosby by the players. even Wings fans know Malkin is the real superstar in Pittsburgh and the one opposing players and fans should worry about. I laugh at Crosby when he falls apart. I feel bad for Malkin when he does it because he’s better than that.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 06/07/09 at 10:46 AM ET
So if calling Crosby a crybaby indicates that you know nothing about hockey I guess that means the only real hockey fans are Penguins fans. Nice logic there.
Crosby is a crying 5 year old. Get over it. He has no compsure. Deal with it. He’s not Captain material. That’s truth. He should change his name to Rosby he doesn’t deserve the C that much.
Posted by Max from Minneapolis on 06/07/09 at 10:47 AM ET
Shut the *#$%@& up Detroit fans. Your city is a joke. I hope GM moves to Mexico and you all lose your jobs.
And the most creative post of the day award goes to…
Posted by Incognetis from Delaware... Hi... I'm in... Delaware on 06/07/09 at 10:48 AM ET
^^ Trying to get banned with information supporting your statements Paul?
Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/07/09 at 10:48 AM ET
Shut the *#$%@& up Detroit fans. Your city is a joke. I hope GM moves to Mexico and you all lose your jobs.
Ah, effective trolling. We don’t even have to SAY anything to get under your skin. Make us proud.
Posted by AndrewFromAnnArbor from Fortress Europe on 06/07/09 at 10:48 AM ET
He should change his name to Rosby he doesn’t deserve the C that much.
Thanks for the coffee-spewing moment. That was priceless.
Unfortunately, you owe me a new monitor.
Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 06/07/09 at 10:49 AM ET
What I’m really “trolling” about, I guess, is this persistent belief that Sid is a whiner and a cryer, etc. Where is the logic and information behind this belief? I know I probably can’t change your minds. I’m just trying to understand it.
Posted by Joe on 06/07/09 at 11:39 AM ET
Okay Joe, glad you showed up here for an education. The fact that Sid is a whiner comes from THE PLAYERS ON THE ICE who have to put up with his relentless amateurism. Also, the players don’t think he’s that good. YOU’RE WELCOME. Hope you understand now.
324 NHL players rate Crosby the 8th best player, behind, among others, Ovechkin, Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk and Malkin.
And of course players all realize Crosby IS the biggest whiner by a factor of 6:1 over Chris Pronger. Truly overwhelming, but consistent.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?page=0809playersurvey
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 06/07/09 at 10:51 AM ET
As soon as NBC panned to little Gary, I just smiled thinking about him sitting there when the crowd was chanting “Cros-by Sucks”
Man I’d kill to see the look on his face when THAT was going on.
Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 06/07/09 at 10:51 AM ET
Well Paul Miami already put that up. Maybe if Troll reads it twice it will sink in.
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 06/07/09 at 10:53 AM ET
I wish someone had some reaction clips of Mr. Bettman after both Wings goals and Penguins goals. I’m curious how he reacts.
Posted by scsgoal31 from Huntington Woods, MI on 06/07/09 at 10:54 AM ET
Conspiracy? Gosh I don’t know where anyone gets that idea, unless they watched last year’s coverage.
Posted by RWBill from the Land of 12 in 12. on 06/07/09 at 10:56 AM ET
I wish someone had some reaction clips of Mr. Bettman after both Wings goals and Penguins goals. I’m curious how he reacts.
Posted by scsgoal31 from Harrison Twp, MI on 06/07/09 at 11:54 AM ET
I would actually not be surprised if it ranged from nothing to a polite golf clap in either case. He comes across as a person very uncomfortable in boisterous crowds.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/07/09 at 10:57 AM ET
Shut the *#$%@& up Detroit fans. Your city is a joke. I hope GM moves to Mexico and you all lose your jobs.
Posted by LeMag66 from PAW on 06/07/09 at 11:41 AM ET
Yes, wouldn’t it be better if another major American corporation moved its operations outside of our borders so you could feel better about a hockey game?
The world could use significantly fewer people like you.
@Joe, are you asking for logic and information about only the “conspiracy” belief or behind that and Crosby’s tag as a whiner?
I won’t talk the “conspiracy” issue because I’m tired of hearing about it. If you’re looking for examples of Crosby’s not-so-stellar leadership record, simply look at it from the perspective of somebody who isn’t a Penguins fan. It’s not Crosby’s fault that the NHL made him the face of the league. The expectations and pressure are a lot for anybody his age to handle. But, there are plenty of examples where he has not handled it well. Yes, there are also lots of times where you can show he has. I think Crosby will be a good leader in the future. He’s not there yet.
Posted by J.J. from Kansas on 06/07/09 at 10:58 AM ET
There is no proof of a conspiracy, because there isn’t one. However, for the belief that Sidney Crosby is a whiner, we have the opinion of the NHL players themselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3atOIUzMb0
An ESPN survey revealed that 52% of NHL players consider Sidney Crosby the biggest whiner.
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 06/07/09 at 11:00 AM ET
Well Paul Miami already put that up. Maybe if Troll reads it twice it will sink in.
no, that’s if the Troll CAN read it. Chances are he doesn’t even know how to read.
Posted by YYZerman from Detroit, Michigan on 06/07/09 at 11:01 AM ET
I’ll bet Pen(i)s fans want to know where they can get one of these tshirts Sid was wearing before the game yesterday…
look closely.
Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 06/07/09 at 11:05 AM ET
Not that we’re gonna need it, but I noticed in the last thread it was referred to that a potential Game 7 is on Thursday night, but it’s actually Friday night, June 12th (coincidence?). So that’s a 2 day break before and after Game 6. Gotta love 5 games in 8 days followed by 2 games in 6, although I think they’ll take any rest they can get right about now.
Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 06/07/09 at 11:06 AM ET
Well Paul Miami already put that up. Maybe if Troll reads it twice it will sink in.
Or even three times.
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 06/07/09 at 11:07 AM ET
Haha, I guess the players’ poll is pretty good source of information - although it is all based on opinion. Therefore it is the opinion of people like Jeremy Roenick…so…take that as you will..
J.J. from Kansas, that is a very good point. Sid is far from perfect, but he has a bunch of potential and can probably outwork 95% of the NHL. The cool thing is that he’s young and will grow out of whatever habits he might have now. Plus, he’s surrounded by a lot of talent in Pittsburgh, so there’s really more than one leader on that team. I still don’t think he’s a whiner, but I can see a little better why you guys might think so, though I don’t quite understand it.
Either way, I’m outta here. “Trolling” takes a lot out of you..plus I’m worried I might catch failing-industry from hanging out in a Detroit blog too long…..just kidding.
Posted by Joe on 06/07/09 at 11:08 AM ET
Actually, what if there were an anti-Wings conspiracy in the NHL and the Wings just kept on winning anyway? Would that make them elite?
Posted by monkey from here to Timbuktu on 06/07/09 at 11:09 AM ET
I love the blue tint in that photo. It makes it especially poignant.
Trolls, especially the (ones with no) Pen(i)s are notorious for their selective reading skills. It all comes across as gibberish to them unless you write it in retarded 3rd grader text speak.
Crosby sucks you mofos! Yzerman had more class at 18 than this loser has at 21! As for your other “superstar”, good job. Your team is down 3 goals and you have a chance to at least score one or two goals for a comeback and instead you take a stupid penalty. I though this is the guy who had “heart” and “a will to win”.
Posted by grishj on 06/07/09 at 11:11 AM ET
I won’t talk the “conspiracy” issue because I’m tired of hearing about it.
So am I - but here’s my stab at the Cliff’s Notes version especially for trolls:
There is not a conspiracy in the sense of a plan, involving organization, forethought, and intelligence, to help make the Pittsburgh Penguins the Stanley Cup champions of the NHL as soon as possible, to the detriment of any team they encounter, but particularly the Red Wings. There is also not a conspiracy in the sense of an explicit anti-Detroit Red Wings agenda in the league offices.
... however ...
There is a set of outcomes of any playoff season that would be more advantageous to the financial future of the league as a whole, because whoever is in charge of the efforts have all the marketing acumen of a flock of retarded gnats, and a commercial that features the player annointed “the face of the NHL” since before the poor kid was even drafted holding the Stanley Cup would be too simple a concept for even them to screw up, since they have insufficient imagination or creativity (or are just too lazy) to come up with a way of marketing more than one player at a time, NBA style, despite the fact that players such as Datsyuk and Zetterberg and Lidstrom, while not always snappy quote machines, are very popular in their local markets. For that reason, when the normal arbitrary nature of penalties and suspensions happens to cause problems for Detroit, the league doesn’t especially worry about it because it is to their benefit (as they see it).
They are probably also ticked that their CBA is being circumvented in its intention to foster a churn of talent so all teams have a shot at star players and no one gets to hoard them for long periods of time and make sure they are competitive over a longer period of time than other teams, because everyone is supposed to have their “turn” at being in the playoffs now, since that would be best for the plotlines within the league. But that is a lot more speculative and fuzzy than the marketing angle.
Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/07/09 at 11:12 AM ET
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Crosby looks like he’s about to explode into a crying tantrum fit.
Priceless photo. I wonder if Bylsma had to pull out the pacifiers to shut the petulant whiners up in the locker room after the game.
Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 06/07/09 at 10:18 AM ET