what a goon, bush league move buddy.

Posted by Carilloisagoon from DC on 12/05/09 at 07:43 PM ET

lol @ nhl. i understand why nobody watches this product anymore.

Posted by FlyersFan on 12/05/09 at 07:55 PM ET

A flyers player hurt is team by taking idiotic penalties? No. No way. Absolutely not. Paul, you must be mistaken.

Posted by kstewy16 on 12/05/09 at 07:56 PM ET

What exactly is the purpose/point of handing out a 10 min. misconduct after you have already giving the player a Game Misconduct???????????

Looks good on paper, soit appears the league is “getting tough”  Just silly.

Gary now has the refs working like the traffic cops. More tickets/penalties = better.

Posted by Down River Dan on 12/05/09 at 07:57 PM ET

Incredible.  Carcillo gets penalized for winning a fight.  The cross-check call was probably the weakest cross-check call this year.  Bradley drops his stick and gloves, Carcillo immediately connects with a hard right hand to Bradley’s nose.  Down goes Bradley.  Then we get Refs Gone Crazy version 2.0.  How this warrants an instigating minor in addition is ridiculous.  Just whom did Carcillo instigate into a fight - Bradley drops his gloves and got dropped because Carcillo was quicker to the punch.  A nine minute power play for wearing orange-and-black.  I understand Washington has been allowed to dress Ovechkin for the power play now.  No wonder no one watches this crap until the playoffs.

Posted by MHamer from Phila., PA on 12/05/09 at 07:58 PM ET

FF, if Carcillo would have waited just a bit longer before throwing the punch, I would have been fine with his actions.

But now it looks like a sucker punch.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/05/09 at 07:58 PM ET

BS, Paul.  Why is Carcillo supposed to wait?  Bradley’s gloves were off and he approached Carcillo, who drilled him.  Protect yourself at all times.  Another load of crap.

Posted by MHamer from Phila., PA on 12/05/09 at 08:01 PM ET

The way I saw it MHamer, Bradley was not ready to fight.

Let’s wait for the video….

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/05/09 at 08:03 PM ET

Carcillo has never earned any benefit of the doubt.

Posted by Heaton on 12/05/09 at 08:04 PM ET

Well, Paul, either Bradley dropped his stick and gloves - indicating a readiness to fight - or Carcillo’s punch knocked his gloves off.  Bradley advanced toward Carcillo, shook his gloves off, and paid the price for not being as quick as Carcillo.  They’re big boys now.

Posted by MHamer from Phila., PA on 12/05/09 at 08:08 PM ET

Carcillo punched before Bradley’s gloves even hit the ice.

Posted by Heaton on 12/05/09 at 08:13 PM ET

dont worry what happen to Carcillo tonight will start happening around the league and people will stop watching. if anyone is at fault is bradley for not reacting faster. bradley was looking to draw the penalty and he got flatfooted. plus cross checking was a joke

Posted by FlyersFan on 12/05/09 at 08:15 PM ET

The only way Bradley could’ve reacted faster was to not drop his gloves and turtle.  It was a sucker punch in the purest sense.  All the hyperbole crap is nonsense.

Posted by Heaton on 12/05/09 at 08:16 PM ET

These days players square off for a fight.  If it becomes a ‘who can throw the first punch the quickest’, well, then the NHL WILL LOOK at banning fighting.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 12/05/09 at 08:18 PM ET

Well said Paul.  Reminds me of that Tootoo sucker punch from last year.

Posted by Heaton on 12/05/09 at 08:18 PM ET

It didn’t look like Bradley was “ready”.  Still a lot of penalties for one incident.  Carcillo has a rep though and acted stupid.

Posted by PF on 12/05/09 at 08:20 PM ET

Carcillo is a moron and represents everything that is wrong with the game. Flyers fans are the same.

Morons.

Posted by Jimmy from Windsor on 12/05/09 at 08:30 PM ET

lol, asham just took out a ref

Posted by FlyersFan on 12/05/09 at 08:37 PM ET

Well, Carcillo had him by the collar and lined up well before he dropped the gloves.  He just happened to drop his gloves 1/4 of a second before the punch landed, and I don’t think Carcillo has that great reflexes…

Posted by Laydownthelaw from Gatineau on 12/05/09 at 08:41 PM ET

this just in, nhl just instituted a 2 minute minor for attacking the shadow of the opposing team

Posted by FlyersFan on 12/05/09 at 09:07 PM ET

Take off the orange tinted glasses.  Carcillo had his gloves off first.

Cheap.  Shot.

I’m surprised the score wasn’t 3-0 Flyers when this happened. 

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Milford, CT on 12/05/09 at 09:08 PM ET

Posted by FlyersFan on 12/05/09 at 09:32 PM ET

I don’t know…I’m not a fan of either team so I’m not biased at all so with that I can say…how many fights have we seen in the NHL when both guys start rabbit punching each other with their gloves off and WITHOUT squaring off?  The answer, thousands.  Be it may, Carcillo a goon/dirty player or what not, I really don’t think what he did warranted 29 minutes in penalties and game misconduct.  A sucker punch and a lucky punch can be one in the same in certain situations and I think this is one of those situations.  So I think the same goes with Carcillo as it did/does with Sean Avery.  Their reputation precedes them and anything they do that could be a penalty is automatically viewed as a “completely intentional out to kill a player” penalty.

Posted by Scott from New York on 12/05/09 at 09:49 PM ET

FF, really funny that the ref takes a puck in the head.  Please stop watching the NHL, and please stop making idiotic comments on this site.

Bradley followed through on his check in a completely normal way, it wasn’t even close to running him (running people is ironically precisely Carcillo’s MO).  Carcillo can’t accept a clean hit and cross checks Bradley in the back of the head.  How many times do you have to hear that the reaction more often draws a penalty than the first action?  I know Coates and the Flyers crew talk about it all the time. I agree with Paul, had Bradley actually had the chance to drop his gloves and square off, it would have been a fight.  As it was it was very similar to what Brad May did to Jonsson (sp?) a few years ago. And for what?? He was pissed off that someone actually had the balls to try and hit him?  Bush league, which may be just where he ends up with Laviolette as his coach.

Posted by dip on 12/05/09 at 10:11 PM ET

God, Flyers fans are as stupid as the goons on their team.  I’m always amazed at the new lows of idiocy I read on these pages.

Posted by Harrald The Red on 12/05/09 at 10:18 PM ET

Not a flyers fan…(not a fan of leadership )  But…I mean…I don’t see a penalty in any of that.  Bradley boffed an attempted boarding.  Carcillo took exception and dropped the gloves first, but bradley still dropped his gloves.  At that point that’s not a penalty.  Even if the punch was before bradley got his hands up his gloves were off…fair game.

Posted by stoneman from vegas on 12/05/09 at 11:31 PM ET

Disclaimer: I’m a Flyers fan (though I don’t think you’ll be able to tell from what I write).

Carcillo needs to grow some thicker skin or a longer fuse. That hit happens, oh, I don’t know, a few dozen times a game. Maybe there was carryover from something earlier in the game or a previous game but geez guy pick your spots better.

Carcillo’s boneheaded move changed the course of the game and the Flyers got spanked as a result. Period. I hope they enjoy the bag-skate tomorrow, they earned it.

One question I do have is how do you give a guy a fighting major with no penalty to Bradley? I think the ten minute misconduct covers the sucker punch so why bother?

Posted by watrgate on 12/06/09 at 12:17 AM ET

It was thuggery on ice, but the penalty count - 29 minutes - is BS. I’ve been watching the game for a long time and don’t remember seeing a 9 minute pp. It may have happened - I don’t care to look it up - but a man advantage for half a period is pretty extreme. The officials in this league are piss-poor. About the only thing they didn’t call that they could have would have been interference and/or holding.

And I’m not a Flyers fan.

Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 12/06/09 at 12:39 AM ET

It’s pretty obvious that bradley dropped his gloves to try to protect himself from getting killed, because Carcillo already had his gloves off and had a grip on bradleys jersey controlling his body position while bradley still had his stick in his hand.  FF you’re obviously a typical internet homer, who will defend whatever stupid shit his team did, and then somehow try to blame the NHL and relate it to a supposed lack of interest in the league.  You fanboys are terrible for the game.

Posted by Dave on 12/06/09 at 12:50 AM ET

Funny how commentators tried to fake things actually not funny rather *#$%@& unprofesional. Carrilo sucker punched Bradley

Posted by Le MAnu from Phi on 12/06/09 at 01:10 AM ET

I don’t have a dog in this fight but I find it odd that even Don Friggin Cherry thinks it was a cheap shot by Carcillo. That would be like Don Trump making fun of someone’s toupee.

Carcillo’s a goon and doesn’t have the backbone to allow his opponent something even close to a fair fight. His coach and his captain need to sit him down and tell him to behave like a an adult.

Posted by wingsfanindenver on 12/06/09 at 01:21 AM ET

it was a cheap shot plain and simple.  Sure bradly drops his gloves, but, carcillo already dropped his and had one hand on his jersey and the other raised before bradly drops the gloves.  He clocks him before the gloves hit the ice, so you tell me how that is fair at all?

Carcilo is a piece of shit and should not be in the NHL.  Send him to the bush leagues, where that shit might get him a beer.

Posted by Luongo-is-my-hero on 12/06/09 at 01:32 AM ET

It’s pretty clear that Carcillo was cocked and ready to fire while Bradley still had his gloves on and stick in his hand. The second he starts shaking his hands to get his gloves off, Carcillo hits him. Thats a cheap shot. Plain and simple.

(image is from a commenter on Japers Rink)

Posted by Kstewy16 on 12/06/09 at 09:36 AM ET

Major sucker punch.  Get this garbage out of the league. 

The 9 min PP and a 3 game suspension would be warranted.

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 12/06/09 at 10:09 AM ET

fynny how all the flyers homers dissapear after the above freeze frame was posted…....lol defend that

Posted by blueliner34 from maryland on 12/06/09 at 11:16 AM ET

If I were the coach of Philadelphia, Carcillo would be off the roster and waived in a second. The incident is just the latest of his numerous stupidities that usually end up costing the Flyers dearly, and you’d be hard pressed to find a lot of positive contribution in his favour. A suspension would probably be a significant advantage to the team, I suspect.

But as expected, Laviolette has a lot work to do cleaning out the sucker punchers and keeping the predominantly hockey competent players with a desire to work hard and win.

Posted by Moq from Denmark on 12/06/09 at 11:50 AM ET

I am a flyers fan and think it was a sucker punch but it isn’t possible to fight yourself…They gave him a 10 minutes, misconduct which would of been good for the sucker punch and they also gave him a 10 minute game misconduct which would of also been good for the punch. Does this make sense to anyone besides the non haters of the flyers? And the cross check should of been for interference not cross checking.

Posted by Sean from Philly on 12/06/09 at 12:26 PM ET

If a player flat-out jumps a guy or the other guy just covers up without throwing anything, they usually give the first guy the only fighting major.

You’ll remember that was the case a few years ago when Eager elbowed Laraque and then turtled. Eager did subsequently receive a fighting major for being pummeled by a 42-year-old man, but the initial call was fighting on Laraque, nothing on Eager. Penalty break-down, if I’m remembering right, was

Laraque 2+5+10 for instigating against Eager
Roberts 5 for fighting Eager
Eager 5 for fighting Roberts.

Posted by steve on 12/06/09 at 01:29 PM ET

I love how the biggest argument is that a player can’t fight himself, and that they don’t give fighting majors to only one guy.  Except the the fact that it happened in the previous Caps game too.  Mike Duco of the Florida Panthers, jumped Alexander Giroux, and received a 5 minute Fighting major.  It happens when one person fights and the other one doesn’t.

Posted by Jeremy from Baltimore on 12/07/09 at 05:19 PM ET