There’s going to be Wings fans on here complaining about how the NHL and Gary Bettman told the refs to let the Pens get away with stuff so the series would last longer.

Then, there’s going to be Pens fans complaining about missed interference and Zetterberg covering the puck in the crease.

Bottom line, the officiating has missed a lot, it has been inconsistent (especially compared to the first three rounds), and it is getting ridiculous for both teams

Posted by BFN on 06/03/09 at 08:15 PM ET

paul-

i found this picture on the caps board.  i think it clearly shows larue and one of the linesman looking right at eaton skating off the ice.  there was plenty of time to blow the whistle as the ref noticed eaton skating at the top of the detroit bench.  i would say it looks suspicious.

Posted by caps fan on 06/03/09 at 08:32 PM ET

Don’t forget the Linesman moved out of the for Eaton to go back to the bench.

Posted by YYZerman from Detroit, Michigan on 06/03/09 at 08:35 PM ET

Bottom line, the officiating has missed a lot, it has been inconsistent (especially compared to the first three rounds), and it is getting ridiculous for both teams

True - and it makes the entire league look like it’s fixed, a joke, or amateurish - or all of the above.  Certainly not what would logically be expected of a supposedly professional organization drawing in billions in revenue each year from two nations. 

If the officials had all gone to Dr. Rahmani they wouldn’t have all these vision problems. 

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 06/03/09 at 08:35 PM ET

“way”, he moved out of the way is what I wanted to type.

Posted by YYZerman from Detroit, Michigan on 06/03/09 at 08:40 PM ET

You whiners should live in Philly.  It’s not like the Pens scored as a result of six men.  How about we trade all of the non-interference calls, Dupois getting hooked by Hossa before the Det goal in game two and the two penalty shots Pit deserved in games 1 and 2 for Zetterberg covering the puck for the PP Det deserved cause of too many men.

PLEASE STOP WHINING.  PLEASE!!!! It is unbecoming of a great organization.  Feel free to pass onto Babcock. 

BTW - while you’re at it, tell Babcock to watch Bylsma see how a coach with class responds to adversity.  Babcock is a jackass!

Posted by McFly on 06/03/09 at 08:47 PM ET

I just have a hard time believing that something like that would happen. I can understand cautioning players about their play as that probably happens all the time. But to intentionally aid a team? What motivation would LaRue have for doing that? He’s basically committing professional misconduct and maybe jeopardizing at least a fine and/or his career by doing that.

Posted by UMFan from Colorado on 06/03/09 at 08:52 PM ET

The motive is simple- he’s a good ole boy just “letting ‘em play.”  That’s one theory, anyway.  I think it’s fairly clear, though, that the officials consciously- if not physically- looked the other way on this one.  Just like they looked the other way on all of the holding, clutching, and grabbing going on- on both sides- up until Jonny Ericcson’s vicious, vicious, er, interference on Cooke with eight minutes left in the third last night.

Gotta love those Zebras.  And Widdle Gawy, too, of course.  T.G.A.

Posted by mudshark from Divetown, Colorado on 06/03/09 at 09:06 PM ET

What motivation would LaRue have for doing that? He’s basically committing professional misconduct and maybe jeopardizing at least a fine and/or his career by doing that.

You’re assuming that the NHL is consistent and rational in it’s enforcement and application of rules and regulations.

Posted by Jennemy of the Skate from putting the b*tches in the box on 06/03/09 at 09:19 PM ET

Babcock is a jackass!
Posted by McFly on 06/03/09 at 09:47 PM ET

Mr. Kettle calling Mr. Pot black I see.

Posted by calquake on 06/03/09 at 09:23 PM ET

I am trying to be objective. I don’t want to be that ‘conspiracy theory’ guy, but c,mon, anytime Bettman is in the vicinity of anything to do with the Wings he looks like he intended to pass gas and soiled his drawers. I think it’s very obvious that the Wings represent a lot of things that he would like to see eliminated in his version of hockey utopia.

I know that there have been missed calls both ways, but has there been any marginal or unnecessary calls going against Pittsburgh? NHL.com had a video from Steven Walkom that showed examples of what would no longer be tolerated in the new world of “no obstruction - no interference”. Every time the Wings used their new propensity to dump and chase the Penguin defense looked exactly like the examples of what Walkom said would no longer be tolerated. The blows to Holmstrom and Franzen’s heads are another of the leagues pet ‘no-nos’. The network camera picked it up clearly, but the on ice officials were looking elsewhere. Gotcha.

If they want to let ‘em play, OK. But you can’t ignore all that obstruction on the break in and then flag Ericsson at a critical time for something less egregious. Something is fishy.

That said, the Wings need to remember how to kill a penalty.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 09:34 PM ET

How many coaches are willing to start a press conference, even before being prompted by the media, by apologizing that his comments might not have been clear? 

Bylsma and Babcock are probably in the top 5 classy coaches in the league.  So, you know…. STFU you intellectually dishonest homer bastard.

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 06/03/09 at 09:34 PM ET

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Posted by McFly on 06/03/09 at 09:47 PM ET

Open your mouth and let your ignorance spill all over the place.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 06/03/09 at 09:39 PM ET

By the way, I like that Bylsma. Too bad, I miss laughing at Mike T. He was a hoot.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 09:40 PM ET

So Babcock is a jackass because he correctly stated that Hal Gill commits interference on almost every single dump-in that he’s on the ice for?  How dare he!

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 06/03/09 at 09:43 PM ET

Yes, a lot of calls have been missed both ways, but missing 6 men on the ice, that’s just a little too egregious, especially when the top two officials had to see Eaton making his way off the ice.

As for the interference, Ericsson’s call didn’t rate compared to most of Gill’s interference.  I refer to Gill as the “Human Interference Call” as I don’t recall the last time he didn’t commit a penalty at the blue line. 

As it stands, though, the Red Wings have to do a much better job at killing penalties.  Would it have hurt to get the puck out of the zone, at least once during that penalty?  Might have made the difference for them.

Go Red Wings!

Posted by RedWing55 from Denham Springs, LA on 06/03/09 at 09:55 PM ET

Babcock is a jackass!
Posted by McFly on 06/03/09 at 09:47 PM ET

No. Babcock is classy. You are a jackass.

Posted by Alan from Atlanta on 06/03/09 at 10:11 PM ET

BTW - while you’re at it, tell Babcock to watch Bylsma see how a coach with class responds to adversity. 

Really?  You’re talking about Babcock, who didn’t complain when they lost a game because of Hossa’s goal being called back?  That Babcock?

And frankly, Babcock’s only responding to the way that the ENTIRE HOCKEY WORLD is whining about Detroit’s “subtle interference” and giving Pitt a pass for their constant, blatant interference and crosschecking and boarding and hitting from behind and slashing and elbowing.

Posted by Garth on 06/03/09 at 10:11 PM ET

Darren Dreger picked Calgary to come out of the West.

This is the kind of guy we’re dealing with here.

Posted by Mandingo from The Garage on 06/03/09 at 10:12 PM ET

Yes, a lot of calls have been missed both ways, but missing 6 men on the ice, that’s just a little too egregious, especially when the top two officials had to see Eaton making his way off the ice.

Even if they truly missed it (I’ve seen bar league games with drunken refs who are maing go-go eyes to their girlfriend in the stands who couldn’t miss something that obvious - remember… these guys are the best of the best in the whole world!) the NHL should at least own up to it publicly. Their arrogance and inability to acknowledge any mistake drives me nuts.

Good teams overcome adversity. But how much? No Datsyuk? Suck it up. No former Selke winner and top face off man in the playoffs Draper? No whining. No stay at home deceptively effective cro-magnon defenseman Lilja? We can overcome. Let’s not add silly zebras to the mix.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 10:13 PM ET

You’re assuming that the NHL is consistent and rational in it’s enforcement and application of rules and regulations.

No. What I’m assuming is that the NHL is officiated by unbiased refs who don’t give a damn about the outcome. Sure they are going to miss a call here or there and have their interpretations; and we can all talk about incompetence, but there’s a huge difference between incompetence and messing with the integrity of the game by intentionally aiding a team in avoiding a penalty. Look at what happened to that NBA ref that got busted last year. You think any official wants to risk that kind of heat? That is why its a bit hard for me to believe this rumor.

Posted by UMFan from Colorado on 06/03/09 at 10:18 PM ET

BTW - while you’re at it, tell Babcock to watch Bylsma see how a coach with class responds to adversity.  Babcock is a jackass!

Posted by McFly on 06/03/09 at 09:47 PM ET

wasnt Bylsma the same player who whiffed an two on one pass from gretzky?

Bylsma is like therrien in couple years he will get canned

Posted by FlyersFan on 06/03/09 at 10:23 PM ET

this is a non-issue (Pens didn’t score, so big deal) and the Wings just look like whiners…a championship team this experienced should make light of it and say we’re capable of stopping them even when they’ve got an extra guy going

Posted by rb on 06/03/09 at 10:24 PM ET

No. What I’m assuming is that the NHL is officiated by unbiased refs who don’t give a damn about the outcome. Sure they are going to miss a call here or there and have their interpretations; and we can all talk about incompetence, but there’s a huge difference between incompetence and messing with the integrity of the game by intentionally aiding a team in avoiding a penalty.

Okay, I kinda dig what you’re saying, but I think some of these guys get off on making ‘the big call that it takes brass marbles to make’.  I think they are sensitive to what their boss thinks will make the league better, etc. Maybe it’s more unconcious.

I really, really try to be objective, but I spent half the game screaming at the obstruction that the Wings (especially the 3rd and 4th lines) were fighting through and then feeling the dismal numbness when I watched Cleary get tangled up around his man.

Yeah, Cleary’s was a penalty. But no more so than twenty I saw from the Penguin defense.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 10:29 PM ET

this is a non-issue (Pens didn’t score, so big deal) and the Wings just look like whiners…a championship team this experienced should make light of it and say we’re capable of stopping them even when they’ve got an extra guy going

Sure. I remember fondly how the 70’s Canadiens used to dress the trainer, their towel boy and the parking garage guy in the finals because they were so much better. And then the the aforementioned Penguins… remember how they were so great in the early 90’s that they actually let Jean-Claude Van-Damme play goal for a few minutes? Yeah, when you’re a talented team you need to be able to overcome anything. In fact, that’s a great idea. Wings fans keep talking about how their team is a dynasty. Maybe they should paly all games down a guy. If there so great and all…

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 10:35 PM ET

All this whining by the Red Wings, and their fans, tells me is that they take the Penguins as a serious threat to their chances to repeat.  I laugh at all of you losers and your conspiracy theories!  I guess Gary Bettman conspired to have GM and Chrysler go into bankruptcy, and Ford to fall on hard times, all to wreck the Detroit economy, so the Red Wings won’t have the ability to stay at the top of the NHL in terms of salaries paid.  And yes Red Wings fans that reality is just around the corner.  2,500 season ticket holders did not purchase playoff tickets, and I guarantee many more won’t be able to renew their season tickets for next year.  Many seats have been available throughout the playoffs at Joe Louis Arena.  But I’m sure this is all Gary Bettman’s fault.  You people are a joke!  LET’S GO PENS!

Posted by Pens Fan in DC on 06/03/09 at 10:36 PM ET

By the way, my typing is actually worse than any call ever made in the history of sports. (Thanks for that Coach Q!) Sorry.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 10:38 PM ET

Darren Dreger picked Calgary to come out of the West.
This is the kind of guy we’re dealing with here.

Ding ding ding.
The bickering about missed calls is silly.
Even when it is completely obvious to Doc & Edzo. “Subtle interference” versus a full fledged 6 on 5. Same thing right, Edzo? Resulting in a goal or not, BS is BS. If you can’t admit it, you’re a tool and a total homer.
Play the next game and leave the rehashing of the last game to the morons paid way too much money to call it wrong in the first place.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 06/03/09 at 10:40 PM ET

Krebstar

You may think that the Ericsson call should not have been made because it was no worse than what was being allowed. Don’t forget that the Wings PP goal came on ticky tacky call against Orpik in the first. The game was decided when the Wings dominated in the 2nd period and did not score

Posted by Randy from Butler PA on 06/03/09 at 10:40 PM ET

All this whining by the Red Wings, and their fans, tells me is that they take the Penguins as a serious threat to their chances to repeat.

When did you ever get the idea some of us don’t? I am scared poopless by the Penguins. I think the Wings are a better team. Maybe we could have a fun little contest and list all the times the ‘better’ team lost to a hot goalie, a team on a mission or their own expectations. Heck yeah I’m scared. I won’t feel better ‘til I set the TiVo to tape the par…. Nevermind.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 10:43 PM ET

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Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 06/03/09 at 10:52 PM ET

Krebstar

You may think that the Ericsson call should not have been made because it was no worse than what was being allowed. Don’t forget that the Wings PP goal came on ticky tacky call against Orpik in the first. The game was decided when the Wings dominated in the 2nd period and did not score

Randy,

I’m not really arguing with your point too much. But you don’t see anything odd about the least penalized team in the league being at a 3-1 disadvantage in power plays? Just one of those crazy quirks? Did you see any Wings player do anything as league frowned upon as Cooke’s elbow to Holmstrom’s face three seconds after a whistle? How about the Pen’s little elf climbing the beanstalk to ring Franzen’s bell? We’re just going to let the 6 on 5 thing go as an no-big-dealoversight? Maybe the four guys had a lot of GM stock and were understandably preoccupied? Stuff was let go all over the place, but Ericsson gets called at the ‘rock star’ moment when emotion and desperation are at their peak. Complete coincidence? Alright. I’ll go with that.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 10:52 PM ET

You won’t have to TIVO the Pens Victory Parade.  I’m sure you won’t have to go down to the unemployment office that day, and I’m sure your Mom won’t make you go and get her cigarettes and a bottle of ripple from the store.  What is it like to live in your Mom’s basement?  LET’S GO PENS!

Posted by Pens Fan in DC on 06/03/09 at 10:53 PM ET

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Posted by Pens Fan in DC on 06/03/09 at 11:53 PM ET

You are a sad, strange, little fan.

Posted by stonehands-78 from the beginning ... a WingsFan, on 06/03/09 at 11:01 PM ET

You won’t have to TIVO the Pens Victory Parade.  I’m sure you won’t have to go down to the unemployment office that day, and I’m sure your Mom won’t make you go and get her cigarettes and a bottle of ripple from the store.  What is it like to live in your Mom’s basement?  LET’S GO PENS!

Awesome post!!!  That is a great parody of one of those pimply-faced 17 year old pencil-necks. I liked the irony of the jibes about unemployment, white trash parentage and being a basement dweller delivered in the pitch-perfect voice of a typical impotent raging internet loser waiting for mom to microwave the pizza rolls he asked for. You do it so well I almost thought you were serious. Very funny dude!

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 11:03 PM ET

It’s perfectly appropriate for this forum and all of the absolute nonsense on here that is dressed up as analysis.  The Red Wings won 2 games because they scored more goals that the Pens, and the Pens won 1 game because they scored more goals than the Red Wings.  All the rest of this is beyond laughable.  As with most internet chat/blog sites, this is a joke.  Nothing anybody says on here affects what will happen the rest of this series, but many really believe it does.  Now that is a real joke, and extremely funny!  LET’S GO PENS!

Posted by Pens Fan in DC on 06/03/09 at 11:09 PM ET

It’s perfectly appropriate for this forum and all of the absolute nonsense on here that is dressed up as analysis.

I’m not an analyst. Just an admittedly biased fan. I try not to be too much of a homer. I thought this was a really interesting topic because I am seeing a real disparity in the officiating in connection with calls made, non-calls, timing of calls and the overall effect on the games. I am really interested in what other people think. Maybe it will change my mind.

The Red Wings won 2 games because they scored more goals that the Pens, and the Pens won 1 game because they scored more goals than the Red Wings.

Now that’s analysis. Great work!

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 11:14 PM ET

Dan Byslma played for Mike Babcock in Anaheim.

they both know how to deal with the officiating when it arises at the press conference.  neither one of those guys will whine…unlike a certain one-time Pen coach therien.

wings fans are past this.  we’re just waiting on game 4.

Posted by Jeebus on 06/03/09 at 11:15 PM ET

Nothing anybody says on here affects what will happen the rest of this series, but many really believe it does.

Oh, and I take major offense at this statement. I am certain that Gary Bettman and Colin Campbell are reading every word I’m writing. When they see that I figured them out they will send out a super-secret encrypted email to the refs and linesman telling them that the jig is up. That they’ve been found out by a wily poster from Grand Blanc and they need to call the rest of the series clean (like that cool scene in Remember the Titans). You’ll see!!!

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 11:20 PM ET

Do you actually have an job, or do you consider your mindless rants on here an occupation?  You certainly treat it like a paying job.  I guess the rent on the basement isn’t much, now is it?

Posted by Pens Fan in DC on 06/03/09 at 11:26 PM ET

Dupois getting hooked by Hossa before the Det goal in game two

there was no hook.  he lifted his stick, perfectly legal.

Posted by PaulinMiamiBeach on 06/03/09 at 11:30 PM ET

wings fans are past this.  we’re just waiting on game 4

Thanks Jeebus,

I do really feel that way, but I just started having so much fun with the kiddies that I couldn’t stop.

I truly believe that the NHL brass dislikes many things about the Wings. I think they have championed many things about teams like the Penguins. I’m not even a Bettman hater. I just think he is a misguided, Napoleonic, narrow-visioned egotist. I think his views may filter out into the workings of the league operations in tangible though maybe subconscious ways.

Or I could be totally wrong.

I don’t think the games are fixed or anything like that.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 11:34 PM ET

Do you actually have an job, or do you consider your mindless rants on here an occupation?  You certainly treat it like a paying job.  I guess the rent on the basement isn’t much, now is it?

I do have a job but, now that you mention it, I’m actually a little upset that I can’t earn a living by spewing mindless rants. I’m getting excited at the possibility. Would you be willing to pay for that if I decided to try? I’m not paying rent on the basement right now, but you seem pretty familiar with the general cost. How much is your mom charging you anyway? Did you ever get those pizza rolls?

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 11:40 PM ET

You are a 1st sociopath and egomaniac.  How much Red Bull have you consumed tonight?  You do realize the game isn’t for another 18 hours right?  I guess it doesn’t matter to you since you have nowhere to go between now and then, like a job or something.

Posted by Pens Fan in DC on 06/03/09 at 11:49 PM ET

You are a 1st sociopath and egomaniac.  How much Red Bull have you consumed tonight?  You do realize the game isn’t for another 18 hours right?  I guess it doesn’t matter to you since you have nowhere to go between now and then, like a job or something.

Dude, you’re starting to make me sad now. You keep bringing up this job thing. It’s OK if you’re hurting for work. Things are tough all over. All you have to do is ask (but nicely). I just got a contract for a bunch of stores in Massachusetts. The guy I send out there will need a helper. Now you’ve got to show up on time and no being sauced during the day. I can’t pay you a ton but I know it will be enough to keep mom off your back and keep the pizza rolls coming. Send me a resume.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/03/09 at 11:59 PM ET

Sorry to everyone for hijacking the thread. Pens Fan and I were just having fun. Good night to all and especially to my friend in the District of Columbia.

And remember… whether your Penguins win or lose tomorrow night the sun will still come up Friday and mom will still bring the pizza rolls down to after you wake up at noon.

Posted by Krebstar on 06/04/09 at 12:30 AM ET

Dreger is a Level 10 certified assclown whose incoherent, mindless tripe is not even fit to be posted on Pen(i)sBlog.  They guy spent this year devoting his stain of goat semen called a column on the truly consequential wonders of professional hockey: The contents of Brian Burke’s belly button lint pre- and post-Ducks-Leafs GM jobs, whether will Mats Sundin sign with Little Caesar’s and what he ate for breakfast that day, and my personal favorite (seriously, he wrote this), an analysis of the utterly meaningless Leafs/Blues trade entitled, “two first-round draft picks for a fifth rounder is one way of looking at the Alex Steen-Carlo Colaiacovo trade for Lee Stempniak.”  If Doogie Douchemeister is reporting it, it means only that the issue should be filed in the ‘who gives a sh*t’ basket.

Posted by Siphon from the JLA rafters on 06/04/09 at 12:33 AM ET

low IQs, eh?

Posted by the SCF are fixed! from the people who think the world is flat. on 06/04/09 at 02:47 AM ET

You whiners should live in Philly.  It’s not like the Pens scored as a result of six men.

Is that where the Pen(i)s fans excuses are right now?

If so, they’ve hit rock bottom.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/04/09 at 05:22 AM ET

Another pissed off Leafs fans tries to throw a punch into the fray.

Suck it, Dregger.

Go clean Luke Schenn’s balls.

On the golf course.

Posted by Red Winger from Sault Ste Marie on 06/04/09 at 05:35 AM ET

pens fan here, there ya go.

anyway i’m sick of hearing EVERYONE….BOTH sides whine and whine and whine about the officiating.

the most obnoxious part of it is all the conspiracy theories from moron fans we have to hear after every single game.

if you believe the refs/bettman are fixing this series for the wings youre a joke.

if you believe the refs/bettman are fixing this series for the pens youre a joke.

if you believe the secret illuminati society has rigged the SCF then youre a jo—-wait…actually you might have a point….

the officiating has been terrible both sides of the ice…what did you expect you have devorski and mcCreary running around out their. theyre a bunch of jokes themselves. We all knew how the games were going to be called in this ‘let them place’ style.

chalk game three officiating up to babcock and bylsma bitching to the refs after game 2 and getting sympathy calls in game 3.

thats how it goes, get over it.

Posted by saintjust21 on 06/04/09 at 06:39 AM ET

Am I missing something?  The pens might not have scored on the 6 on 5, but they sure did get a powerplay less than two minutes later which they scored on to tie it up.  No big deal?  Keep telling yourself that.  That no called completely changed the game.

Posted by JROD from East Lansing on 06/04/09 at 07:01 AM ET

C’mon Dreger, how can you call it sour grapes when the team keeps winning? It’s sour grapes when you lose and are jealous.

This is more like frustration, and given the DAMNING visual evidence we have to go on, I’d say it’s 100% justified for the Wings to let out a peep or two that they aren’t quite sure why the ref and linesman just let it go.

This wasn’t five seconds, this was 20+ seconds with all the players in the play. Pretty absurd.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 06/04/09 at 07:51 AM ET

You Wings fans are unbelievable…..you hate Bettman but while he has been commish the Wings have dominated the NHL. Would you like to go back to John Zeigler and the days when the Wings were the Detroit Lions of hockey? Yeah… there has been bad officiating but the Wings still could have won this game easily.  And as far as hockey is concerned officiating does not control the game anywhere near as much as in basketball and football. The refs can not give you a goal in hockey. As a Bruins fan I would gladly change places with the Wings and deal with the bad officiating….......Please get a life….......

Posted by kevin from boston on 06/04/09 at 08:19 AM ET

Pens fans and Wings fans (especially Wings fans) please stop.  You’re embarassing yourselves. 
If the refs called everything they see then both teams would be on a permanent 3 on 3 throughout the entire finals. 
Although, it does make me laugh that fans of a team with Kronwall are complaining about dirty plays and non-calls.  Tell me, has he learned to stay on the ice when he makes a hit, or does he still go for the head with his shoulder?
Pens fans…  Your team is just as bad as the Wings, you have no room to talk.  Or we could call the games properly, in which case Malkin would be enjoying a suspension right about now.

Both teams are sucker punching, slashing, holding, tripping, DIVING, and getting away with whatever they can after the whistle.  It’s called hockey folks.

Posted by AvsRock from My timeshare in insanity... on 06/04/09 at 10:10 AM ET

Win the Cup, Wings. Win this thing, and then shove that mother right up the asses of every media member and NHL exec that supports risking the integrity of this historic league for some artificial outcome, all in the name of promotion and the Almighty Dollar.

Posted by Red Winger from Woodstock

Amen!!!!

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan on 06/04/09 at 11:03 AM ET

You won’t have to TIVO the Pens Victory Parade.  I’m sure you won’t have to go down to the unemployment office that day, and I’m sure your Mom won’t make you go and get her cigarettes and a bottle of ripple from the store.  What is it like to live in your Mom’s basement?  LET’S GO PENS!

Posted by Pens Fan in DC on 06/03/09 at 11:53 PM ET

fans like you give all Pens fans a bad name

Posted by MsRedWingFan from West Michigan on 06/04/09 at 11:04 AM ET