Next game give the Flyers a 1-0 lead in the before the game starts…bet that will never happen again

Posted by b4mv01 on 01/11/10 at 08:56 PM ET

I can’t help but wonder how many times this as happened in the past across the league.

Posted by propper on 01/11/10 at 09:01 PM ET

Good point propper.

Posted by Paul from Motown Area on 01/11/10 at 09:03 PM ET

If they’re reviewing this then the ref’s who called back Brad May’s goal against the Stars earlier this year should be under investigation for being unable to admit they were wrong and awarding the Wings a correct goal.

Posted by Scott from New York on 01/11/10 at 09:55 PM ET

I wish people would stop blaming the Pens for this. This is FSN’s problem, not the Pens, but if you read most comments on the topic its all part of a Pittsburgh sports conspiracy led by Gary Bettman and includes headlines like “Pittsburgh Cheats” in philly.

It was pretty stupid of FSN though, so they’ll probably get a fine or something, and rightfully so.

Posted by Kstewy16 on 01/11/10 at 09:55 PM ET

My videos is the whole thing, but it’s ok for you to not use my far superior video!! lol

I could imagine the crying from philly “fans” if they would have lost

Posted by GhostWalker40 on 01/11/10 at 09:55 PM ET

Classy.
19 of us expect nothing less.

Posted by The Hurricane on 01/11/10 at 10:09 PM ET

hahahahahahahahahaha…. NO it’s totally not the Pens fault, or its fans, or the culture of whiny bitchism that is bred and nurtured in the old ArmPitt. CLASSLESS.

Posted by perfection from LaLaLand on 01/11/10 at 10:33 PM ET

This is a reflection of Pittsburgh, the fans, the media and the network.  Class act Pittsburgh and FSN.  And people take issue with Philly…  Suddenly, there is a new challenger…

And what about Gonchar’s hit on Clutterbuck moments ago.  Let’s see if Crosby permits Bettman to suspend him.  My giuess is no. 

But, I promise you this:  If that piss yellow on his sweater was orange, there would be at minimum four games dolled out by those effete wankers up in NY.

Posted by Unicorn Force from USA on 01/11/10 at 10:35 PM ET

I’m curious, GhostWalker40, why do you put the word “fans” in quotes? Please explain the significance of that.

Posted by propper on 01/11/10 at 10:45 PM ET

I wish people would stop blaming the Pens for this. This is FSN’s problem, not the Pens, but if you read most comments on the topic its all part of a Pittsburgh sports conspiracy led by Gary Bettman and includes headlines like “Pittsburgh Cheats” in philly.

It was pretty stupid of FSN though, so they’ll probably get a fine or something, and rightfully so.

Posted by Kstewy16 on 01/11/10 at 09:55 PM ET

well, your boy gary did say penguins are the ‘model’ nhl franchise!

Posted by FlyersFan on 01/11/10 at 10:45 PM ET

From the rest of that story:

It is not yet clear whether FSN Pittsburgh purposely excluded the angle or it was an unintentional oversight, though one Penguins announcer can be heard saying “we saved that one” on the broadcast.

Yeah, that’s real nice.  That broadcaster and everyone responsible for getting that feed to the league should be fired and FSN Pittsburgh should be fined heavily.  What if this was a playoff game and not a blowout regular season game?  I guess that’s the last time both teams’ broadcasts won’t use their own feeds.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 01/11/10 at 10:53 PM ET

Fine… so Pens superfan no. 1 who works for FSN decided to withhold one camera angle… 

The fact still remains that all the other angles showed the goal line and no puck.  Logic would dictate that the puck didn’t fly to the Bahamas for a warming interlude, but was actually behind the goal line and in the net.  If those dolts up the War Room can’t put two and two together and figure this one out, there is no point in paying them a salary.  My guess is that those halfwits are hiding behind the notion that “conclusive” must mean actual sight…

Posted by Unicorn Force from In Johnson' Net on 01/11/10 at 11:01 PM ET

Flyers don’t worry me. Their loser fans who believe in a conspiracy are hilarious, though.

Posted by cs6687 on 01/11/10 at 11:11 PM ET

It is not yet clear whether FSN Pittsburgh purposely excluded the angle or it was an unintentional oversight, though one Penguins announcer can be heard saying “we saved that one” on the broadcast.

that was bob errey. he was giggling about the whole situation.

Posted by FlyersFan on 01/11/10 at 11:23 PM ET

Here’s one flyers fan who does not blame FSN for this.  It happened, Errey was obviously joking about “saving” the camera angle.  And I’m sick of all my fellow Philly fans bitching about conspiracy theories.  The fact is, Pittsburgh has had the better of us for the past few years and instead of whining about it we need to CHEER our team and stop focusing on other teams!  It will turn around soon, we’re getting better.

Posted by Biondo from Philadelphia on 01/11/10 at 11:40 PM ET

Biondo = Hollywood Montrose

Posted by Biondo Nemisis from Philadelphia, PA on 01/11/10 at 11:50 PM ET

Flyers don’t worry me.

Yeah, your goaltending should worry you much more.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 01/11/10 at 11:53 PM ET

creative name, dumbass.  The biggest injustice in the Penguins-Flyers series this year is Hartnell not getting suspended for biting Letang.  There is NO place for that in the league.  The NHL suspends Carcillo for finishing his check but doesn’t suspend Hartnell for BITING?  Where are the conspiracy theorists on that?

Posted by Biondo from Philadelphia on 01/11/10 at 11:57 PM ET

John W:

Good point.  MA Fleury looks awful as of late…

The one thing I’d like to point out to you is that you’ll likely not hear back from cs6687.  My guess is that Carl Scheisskopf, born June 6, 1987, is long in bed.  Mommie took away his compooter privileges around 11:15PM

Posted by Fox News = We Report, You Decide from USA on 01/11/10 at 11:59 PM ET

Hey John W, can we have Jimmy Howard when you guys go back to Osgood for the playoffs?

Posted by Biondo from Philadelphia on 01/12/10 at 12:00 AM ET

Hey John W, can we have Jimmy Howard when you guys go back to Osgood for the playoffs?

Nah, I think we’ll keep him around for a while, but I think Chicago might be looking to dump Huet’s salary on someone if you’re interested?

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 01/12/10 at 12:11 AM ET

@Unicorn Force from USA - how is this a reflection of Pitttsburgh and the fans? And how does this have ANYTHING to do with the Penguins? You’re a total buffoon.

The fact is, people here are making the assumption that this was done on purpose. This could very easily have been a mistake. And if it was, the person responsible for sending the replays to the NHL should absolutely be fired.

But even then, that person is simply not employed by the Penguins. And this doesn’t reflect on the Penguins at all. This is FSN Pittsburgh we’re talking about. Let’s not forget that FSN were the ones who fired Mike Lange back in 2006 and the Penguins couldn’t do anything about it. They ended up hiring him for their radio broadcasts, which are run by the Pens.

FSN is strictly the network that pays to air the Penguins. That’s it. And we’re talking about one person there who omitted that replay. This could have been a technical error.

By the way, that replay does not show conclusive evidence of the puck being over the goal line either. You can assume the puck was over the line after watching this replay, but that’s it. There is no actual visual evidence of the puck being over the goal line. No white ice between the puck and the line. And the call on the ice was no goal, so based on the rules, the omitted angle still could have been deemed inconclusive.

Anyone who makes assumptions and accusations here is clearly biased against the Penguins. The fan bases of the Flyers and Red Wings can unite in their circle jerk of hate of all things Pittsburgh and Sidney Crosby. You’re still just conspiracy theorists, just like Obama’s “Birthers”. I would go one step further and say you’re worse than even those people.

Whatever helps you losers sleep at night.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 12:51 AM ET

LOL @ John W. Pens commentator Bob Errey has nothing to do with sending the replays to the NHL war room. If that’s what he said, that has nothing to do with this incident, it was merely just him joking.

It’s funny how a few Red Wings fans from A2Y seem to always chime in on anything Penguins related on Kuklas and invade the comments section on The Confluence. The bitterness and the jealousy are so strong from some Wings fans.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 12:55 AM ET

You’re still just conspiracy theorists, just like Obama’s “Birthers”. I would go one step further and say you’re worse than even those people.

Abso-freaking-lutely not.  Did you actually equate questioning the legitimacy of an elected leader with thinking a sports league might have a preference as to which of their teams succeed for reasons of profit and exposure?  Perspective, please - you seem to have none.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this has happened several times previously with many teams.  I know that in the NFL there are times when a close play isn’t replayed on the scoreboard in a timely fashion if the visiting team is waiting to see the replay to decide whether or not to throw a challenge flag.  It has to be tempting for a network to just delay a little bit an angle that might prompt a decision against “their” team.  It also must be incredibly busy when they are getting together all the replays and easy to let one slip by in the bustle.

I think this and the fact that Toronto couldn’t use logic to figure out where the puck was points out that the procedure needs to be looked at - and more importantly someone should really start exploring putting rfid tags or something in the pucks with sensors in the posts to eliminate this squinting for a black circle across a line or not when the data from the posts could clearly indicate the position of the puck whether or not it was visible to the camera.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/12/10 at 01:30 AM ET

To make it even more clear that the Pens had nothing to do with it, nor is there a “culture of whining”, the Penguins even showed that replay on the jumbotron and you could see Johnson mouthing the word “Yes” when Crosby asks him if it was in.

But please, continue your idiotic discussion about whining, even though thats all Philly is doing right now.

Posted by Kstewy16 on 01/12/10 at 01:43 AM ET

@Baroque - Comparing all the “Bettman loves the Penguins” conspiracy theorists to Obama’s Birthers is an absolutely fair comparison. Just like there is valid documentation that unequivocally proves Obama was born in Hawaii, there is also proof that the Pittsburgh Penguins get shafted by the refs over and over as often as every other team in the league.

The numbers usually prove this in terms of power plays for and against. The facts are out there.

As for the officiating, I’ve paid close attention to it for the past 15 years or so, as so many other fans have, and I can tell you one thing - NHL refs suck,  just like the refs of the other sports leagues suck. They blow calls all the time. There are instances where it’s forgivable where a fan might think that someone like a Sidney Crosby or an Alex Ovechkin gets favorable treatment because of their superstar status, and the refs have certainly blown calls in their favor at times, but again, you go back and you look at the numbers, and it proves the refs have no bias for anyone.

Obviously, the league protects its superstars. That’s why Ovechkin’s recent kneeing cheap shot drew only a 2-game suspension when any other player would have gotten 4 or 5 games, if not more. And that’s why they didn’t suspend him after his 5 or 6 other cheap shots this past calendar year.

But the people who suggest that refs favor one team or another have zero proof of this, and the numbers more often than not prove that these people are nuts.

All these people who scream about Bettman and the refs favoring Crosby and the Penguins are nuts. If that’s the case, how do you explain the Red Wings having 9 more power plays in the finals than Pittsburgh? When I bring up that fact, they usually have nothing and try to shrug it off.

So as much as NHL refs suck, they are not out to get your team. And they are not out to get the Penguins. I think the comparison with the Birthers to me is valid.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 02:03 AM ET

All these people who scream about Bettman and the refs favoring Crosby and the Penguins are nuts. If that’s the case, how do you explain the Red Wings having 9 more power plays in the finals than Pittsburgh? When I bring up that fact, they usually have nothing and try to shrug it off.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 02:03 AM ET

Haha, that’s easily down to the fact that one team tried playing puck posession hockey, while the other one played rough. And please don’t tell me you don’t think Malkin would’ve been suspended if he was a Red Wing.

Posted by Andy from FightNight on 01/12/10 at 05:39 AM ET

@Andy from FightNight - I wasn’t complaining about the Red Wings. Don’t think you understood what I was saying. I was using the fact that Detroit had 9 more power plays as proof that the Pens aren’t really favored by the refs.

The Pens played an awful Game 5. If you take that out, the difference is 2 more PPs for Detroit, which is fair.

And when was the last time you saw a superstar get suspended in the Stanley Cup Finals because of a fight? The NHL reserves the right to waive a suspension if it deems it unnecessary. Did Malkin do anything to Zetterberg in that fight? No. Are you saying he would have been suspended if he was a Red Wing? Please.

There’s no way in hell he would have been. If Zetterberg or Datsyuk had started that fight, neither one of them gets suspended. In that scenario in the playoffs, not even a 4th liners get suspended. You have to do something really dumb to get suspended in the finals.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 06:19 AM ET

and it proves the refs have no bias for anyone

I may be a bit cynical about sports. After South Korea beating Italy and Spain on WC02, fixing scandals in Germany and Brazil, and specially Tim Donaghy, I think it’s clear referees are biased, for one reason or another.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 01/12/10 at 06:47 AM ET

Guilherme soccer is a whole different ballgame. Aside from Tim Donaghy, there have been no stories of refs beinc corrupt in North American sports. The NHL in this respect is as squeaky clean as it gets.

Those fixing scandals are in soccer only. Tim Donaghy is a rare exception. In the NBA. There’s absolutely no reason to believe anything like that has happened or is happening in the NHL.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 06:56 AM ET

I agree that soccer is a tainted sport, but believing that hockey is a pure sport is just being naive.

Posted by Guilherme from Brazsil on 01/12/10 at 07:05 AM ET

I hope theres a big fine involved here. This shouldn’t happen.

Posted by bcrt on 01/12/10 at 07:28 AM ET

All these people who scream about Bettman and the refs favoring Crosby and the Penguins are nuts. If that’s the case, how do you explain the Red Wings having 9 more power plays in the finals than Pittsburgh? When I bring up that fact, they usually have nothing and try to shrug it off.

That is only “fair” if Detroit shouldn’t have had, say, 14 more power plays than Pittsburgh.

Fair is not the same thing as equal number of penalties - sometimes one team really does commit more than another team, but the officials don’t call it because they have called “too many” on one team already.

Anaheim has used this to their advantage for a few years now.  They realized that the officials are not going to call one team for 20 penalties in a game no matter how many they commit, so if they commit penalties like crazy they will only get called for the most obvious ones, and if they manage to kill those off they will come out ahead by the end of the game.

And all fans know that if one team has had three straight penalties called against it, no matter which team commits the next penalty, the next call will nearly inevitably go to the other team.  This isn’t really fair to either team, but it is perceived as fair because it seems more equal.

Far more than any intentional bias on the part of officials I think this unintentional bias affects games to a large degree, and the tough thing about it is that officials that really want to be fair and are trying their best wind up giving one team an advantage out of the best of intentions and a desire to truly be impartial.  The only solution might be better training (which should happen in any case - the officiating is all too often so atrocious that it makes sense to consider the officials zebra-striped random power-play opportunity generators), a consistent message about how to call the game instead of changing which rules are emphasized more each year, and support from the league so an official who calls 10 penalties on one team and only 2 on the opponent won’t feel as though he is not doing his job effectively because the numbers are so far off from each other.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/12/10 at 08:32 AM ET

The NHL in this respect is as squeaky clean as it gets.

All the lack of public scandal proves is that the NHL is better at keeping things quieter than other sports.  It doesn’t prove that no such corruption exists.

The biggest argument against corruption is just that there isn’t as much gambling on hockey as on other sports, so there isn’t as much opportunity for money to be made by corrupt means.

Posted by Baroque from Michigan on 01/12/10 at 08:35 AM ET

I wish people would stop blaming the Pens for this. This is FSN’s problem, not the Pens, but if you read most comments on the topic its all part of a Pittsburgh sports conspiracy led by Gary Bettman and includes headlines like “Pittsburgh Cheats” in philly.

It was pretty stupid of FSN though, so they’ll probably get a fine or something, and rightfully so.

Posted by Kstewy16 on 01/11/10 at 09:55 PM ET

It’s not the Pens fault, in the sense that the players and coaches had nothing to do with it. But the thing you have to remember is that most of the TV crews are essentially employees of the teams they cover.

It might not reflect negatively on anyone directly employed by the Pittsburgh Penguins, but it definitely shows a real culture issue surrounding the organization.

Posted by Nathan from the scoresheet! on 01/12/10 at 08:47 AM ET

LGP8771:

Actually it is a reflection.  But you don’t understand that.  You rather insult. 

How typical of the Pittsburgh culture. 

And then to say there is not conclusive evidence…

How typical of the Pittsburght culture.

In general, weak and pathetic.  Perhaps the worst sports towne in America.  And you are an exemplary representative thereof.

Take this to heart:  When Kunitz went down, where did he have his surgery?

Nuff said…

Posted by Unicorn Force from USA on 01/12/10 at 09:13 AM ET

start exploring putting rfid tags or something in the pucks with sensors in the posts to eliminate this squinting for a black circle across a line or not when the data from the posts could clearly indicate the position of the puck whether or not it was visible to the camera.

I’ve been talking about this in polite conversation for a few years now.  Still waiting.  Not that expensive, really.

Posted by MarkK from Maryland on 01/12/10 at 09:17 AM ET

@Andy from FightNight - I wasn’t complaining about the Red Wings. Don’t think you understood what I was saying. I was using the fact that Detroit had 9 more power plays as proof that the Pens aren’t really favored by the refs.

The Pens played an awful Game 5. If you take that out, the difference is 2 more PPs for Detroit, which is fair.

I understood you fine, but if the finals had been called with the same standards as the regular season the Wings would have had 20 more PPs than the Pens at least…

Posted by Andy from FightNight on 01/12/10 at 10:11 AM ET

What a save by Fleury…...Pens win the cup….....Pens win the cup!

Posted by wingsdynastyisover from therealhockeytownpa on 01/12/10 at 10:13 AM ET

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 12:55 AM ET

Hey loser, yeah I’m a Wings fan but I said nothing about the Pittsburgh team or fans so the only one making this a Wings-Pens thing is you.  All I said was the FSN Pittsburgh broadcast team should be held accountable, and that given the severity of the situation, that dumbass announcer shouldn’t be proud of what happened.

You started the whole fight here with Wings fans, just like you wanted to, it had nothing to do with us until you got here.

Get a life that doesn’t include picking fights with strangers while hiding behind a monitor.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 01/12/10 at 10:38 AM ET

That broadcaster and everyone responsible for getting that feed to the league should be fired and FSN Pittsburgh should be fined heavily.

Yeah, that was Bob Errey.  And he was between the benches.  How could he be responsible for that if he’s not even up in the booth? 

Come on, now.

Posted by Flashtastick56 from Milford, CT on 01/12/10 at 11:56 AM ET

LGP8771:

Actually it is a reflection.  But you don’t understand that.  You rather insult.

How typical of the Pittsburgh culture.

And then to say there is not conclusive evidence…

How typical of the Pittsburght culture.

In general, weak and pathetic.  Perhaps the worst sports towne in America.  And you are an exemplary representative thereof.

Take this to heart:  When Kunitz went down, where did he have his surgery?

Nuff said…

I would vouch for the fact that you know very little of Pittsburgh culture.  This whole post reeks of insult.  Spelling town with an e, using exemplary and thereof do not make you informed just wordy.  Don’t judge the nature of a sports town when you don’t have one.  Hockey rules all, but that’s all you have.  Call me when Matthew Stafford puts up over 4,000 yards.  There wasn’t conclusive evidence, you just watched a glove move.  That is not going to overturn a call.  I’ve seen quicker whistles than that when the ref lost sight for a split second.  I would say that nothing is weak or pathetic about the sports culture or sports teams from Pittsburgh.  Well maybe two of the three.  Regardless of this seasons results we hold two of the major sports championship trophies and have fan bases that span a nation.  Really, it’s a dumb mistake over a mid-season regular game.  The flyers still won, so there’s no real issue now is there?  Let’s be real, does it really matter where anyone receives their medical treatment as long as they receive it?  I’m certainly not preaching to any choir…I would imagine it’s just best to double check what your posting for douchbaggery….lets not be the e-thug.

Posted by fc13bre from Pittsburgh, PA on 01/12/10 at 12:40 PM ET

I should apologize after posting if the aforementioned poster isn’t from Detroit…I hold no real grudge against the city…Philly on the other hand…LOL

Posted by fc13bre from Pittsburgh, PA on 01/12/10 at 12:43 PM ET

Wordy?  Don’ t you mean fustian?

While I may not entirely agree with Unicorn Force, I will confess that ThePensBlog.com is way out of control.  I’ve seen so many very disturbing and disrepectful comments and posts on that thing; things I haven’t witnessed on other fan sites.  One poster actually said he’d do the Jig of the Damned if the Caps charter crashed and burned killing all inside…  Just not remotely funny.  And while there are always going to be a few bad apples in any city whether it be Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Detroit or Washington, ThePensBlog.com is well beyond being civil.

Posted by ProjectMayhem on 01/12/10 at 01:25 PM ET

Posted by Lindas1st from New England on 01/12/10 at 01:32 PM ET

rfid tags or something in the pucks with sensors in the posts to eliminate this squinting for a black circle across a line or not when the data from the posts could clearly indicate the position of the puck whether or not it was visible to the camera.

THANK YOU Baroque. I’ve been saying this for freaking ever. If they could put a chip in the puck back in the nineties for that stupid Fox glowing puck, they EASILY could do this to track the puck for goals.

Posted by Jennemy of the Skate from putting the b*tches in the box on 01/12/10 at 03:23 PM ET

Yeah, that was Bob Errey.  And he was between the benches.  How could he be responsible for that if he’s not even up in the booth? 

Come on, now.

Whether he was responsible or not is pointless.  The fact that he was stupid enough to admit it on air and think it was a good thing is just moronic.  It’s called guilt by association and the fact he knew about it and did nothing makes him as guilty as anyone.

Posted by John W. from a bubble wrap cocoon on 01/12/10 at 03:37 PM ET

The NHL reserves the right to waive a suspension if it deems it unnecessary

Even for what is in the rule book as an automatic suspension? Huh.

Posted by MOWingsfan19 on 01/12/10 at 05:54 PM ET

Bob Errey didn’t know about anything John W. He was clearly joking because they played the clip after the ref made the final call on the goal. For you to say otherwise just proves your bias against Pittsburgh.

No point in wasting my time with Wings fans though.

And MOWingsfan19, absolutely. The NHL always reserves the right to waive suspensions, even if it’s supposed to be an automatic suspension. I’ve heard people talk about that a number of times.

But of course, Wings fans continue to harp on this fight which was completely inconsequential. Zetterberg was fine immediately after the fight was over. If any player on the Red Wings had done that at that point in the game, they don’t get a suspension either. It was harmless and this was the Stanley Cup Finals. Draper does that and he plays the next game.

The fact that you guys continue to cry about this stuff is so laughable.

As for the idiot Flyers fan who keeps talking s*** about Pittsburgh, guess what, the hospitals and clinics in Pittsburgh give the ones in Philly a run for their money. It just so happens that Kunitz had his surgery in Philly. Boo hoo. Big deal. Talk about grasping for straws. It’s incredible how fans of the Flyers and Red Wings look for any dumb little thing to try to get back at the Penguins. Get over it already and get a life.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/12/10 at 08:27 PM ET

I’m the idiot yet your grammar/punctuation is miserable…  And I don’t think I’m trying to “get back” at the Penguins.  It isn’t like the Penguins gave me a little cross check after the whistle or anything.  They didn’t do anything to me, so I’m not trying to “get back” or exercise any revenge on them.  What I’d like to point out is that many of the fans are cretins, clearly lacking in specific didactic experiences (exhibit A:  LGP8771).  The team receives preferential treatment from the League thanks to the Golden Boy Wonder who has no concept that whinging and diving are not necessary when one is blessed with the overwhelming skill that he has.  He’s an effete wanker in the same company as is Bettman.  Two peas in a pod…

Posted by Idiot Flyers Fan from Pittsburgh on 01/12/10 at 10:37 PM ET

@Idiot Flyers Fan - Point out any grammatical and punctuation errors. Pretty easy to say that I made mistakes without actually proving it. BTW great username. So fitting.

The team receives preferential treatment from the League thanks to the Golden Boy Wonder who has no concept that whinging and diving are not necessary when one is blessed with the overwhelming skill that he has.  He’s an effete wanker in the same company as is Bettman.  Two peas in a pod…

You have no proof of the Penguins getting preferential treatment. Zero. You lost the series in 2008 AND 2009. Both times we were the better team. You blew the lead in Game 6. Period. That’s why the series didn’t go 7. Flyers easily could have won Game 7 if they don’t blow that lead. “Golden Boy Wonder”? What? He’s Sidney Crosby, you fool. Yes, he kicks ass, and yes, the league markets its superstars. Deal with it. Whinging? What the hell is that? You’re saying my grammar and punctuation sucks yet you can’t spell whining?

You’re holding on to the same bulls*** about Crosby that Flyers fans have been screaming about for 4 years. So typical. Your fan base is known for being classless, for throwing batteries at players, for vulgar signs that are in extremely poor taste. Hockey is usually not low brow like this, but in Philadelphia, the white trash has somehow bought into hockey. It’s a damn shame.

Crosby kicks your ass so much and in such painful ways that you have to continue to call him the same dumb names, which only makes you look like the bitter fool that you are.

Anyway, your last 2 sentences about Crosby and Bettman prove my point once again. You’re obsessed with the Penguins and have a bias against Crosby. Sour grapes all the way, pal..

BTW, Flyers fans started a “Crosby Sucks” chant in the 3rd period tonight. Against Dallas. If that doesn’t tell ya how obsessed they are with him, nothing will. They haven’t learned from their past misfortunes, and I’m glad, because Crosby is more into the game when he hears that stuff. And instead of cheering for their own team, they bash a player who is thousands of miles away in Western Canada at the moment.

Keep up the hate, loser.

Posted by LGP8771 on 01/13/10 at 12:09 AM ET

Dude… You really need to get a life…

Nice that you are quick to dole out the insults.  Class.  Class. Class.  Typical from a son of Pittsburgh.  “Look at me.  I love Crosby and Malkin.  My gay initials and their sweater numbers are my username….”

Awesome retort.  You spew forth your unintelligible foam.  You are clearly a Pens fan:  Missing chromosomes and you don’t even know it.

Nice that you are quick to dole out the insults.  Class.  Class. Class.

Let me guess?  Not a grad student?

Posted by LGP8771 Nemisis on 01/13/10 at 12:32 AM ET

So many times the power plays equal out in a game. Most of the time it depends on when they are called. You can tell me the wings had 9 more powerplays then the pans in the finals, but what I care about is when each one was called. Some teams are so far in the hole that by the time they finally get on the powerplay, the game is out of hand. To say Pittsburg is such a great hockey city is a joke. Or as Bettman said the model hockey city. PLEASE you let your team tank for years, how do you think you got so many top draft picks. You almost lost your team till the state bailed you out & gave you money to build a new arena. Now that you are finally good & selling out, how about giving the state the money back. The wings are good every year and yet Bettman didn’t consider them a great model hockey city. He is so set on making Crosby the ONE when so many people don’t even think he’s the best player on his own team. At the winter Classic this year who do you think they showed replays of? CROSBY. You think they could have shown stuff from last years game. Commercials of CROSBY during breaks. Bettman has cramed him down our throats, no wonder he is hated & not just by Philly fans, but all fans. Bettaman couldn’t even wear Winter Classic clothing to promote the game. By the way, baseball stadiums suck for a hockey game. I could not see the ice, or the other end goal. My seat was $90 & they only had 2 TV’s, none were good angles from my seat. I would not go again.

Posted by Andrea from Pa on 01/13/10 at 01:01 AM ET

TO ALL YOU PENS FANS - I DON’T THINK THIS WAS AN OVERSITE
YOU CHEATED
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO CHEAT & WHY DOES CROSBY HAVE TO CRY FOR CALLS ALL THE TIME IF YOUR SO GOOD

FSN Pittsburgh has indefinitely suspended a member of its telecast staff, Lowell MacDonald Jr., son of former Penguins player Lowell MacDonald

Posted by Andrea from Pa on 01/13/10 at 11:05 AM ET