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by Alanah McGinley on 01/10/07 at 09:15 AM ET
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Update: This article was originally posted on 01/09/07 at 1:00 PM ET. Because it is getting so much attention, we have moved it up to the top of KK for all to read.
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By Bernie Czarniecki
[Images scattered throughout this article can be clicked on for enlargement. A great collection of clippings and memorabilia.]
On Tuesday, Jan. 2, Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch celebrated the storied, magnificent career of his long-time All-Star captain and center Steve Yzerman by retiring his jersey number 19, hanging it high into the rafters of Joe Louis Arena.
But as Ilitch celebrated the career of Yzerman with a spectacular ceremony, he simultaneously and purposefully desecrated the career of one of the Detroit’s earliest and true hockey heroes – right wing Larry Aurie.
Aurie, a fearless and talented right wing, played for Detroit from 1927 through 1939. Through his tireless, selfless play, he thoroughly impressed then-owner James Norris. In fact, Norris’ admiration of Aurie motivated him to retire Aurie’s jersey No. 6 in 1938. Aurie became the first-ever Red Wing to be honored in this manner
However, Norris did not hang any Aurie banner in the rafters at Olympia Stadium – it was not his custom. In the 1960’s, he did authorize a display of Aurie’s jersey in the lobby at Olympia Stadium. The display, which also included a photo and plaque describing Aurie’s career, was eventually removed from the lobby, and the jersey was thought to be the one later shipped to Toronto and the one currently on display at the Hockey Hall of Fame.
When Gordie Howe’s number 9 was retired in 1972 by then-owner Bruce Norris - James’ son, Howe’s number 9 was similarly not hung from the rafters. When Alex Delvecchio retired from the Red Wings in 1974, Norris also retired his jersey No. 10. Again, no jersey-raising ceremony. (Note: Delvecchio’s No. 10 was re-activated in 1977 when the number was requested and received by first-overall draft pick Dale McCourt, who wanted to honor his uncle George Armstrong by wearing the number Armstrong wore during his Hall of Fame career with Toronto).
Ilitch purchased the Wings from Norris in 1982, and began the practice of displaying retired jersey numbers from the rafters at Joe Louis Arena, beginning with Howe soon after he gained ownership. Ilitch next retired Ted Lindsay’s No. 7 and re-retiring Delvecchio’s No. 10 on the same day – Nov. 10, 1991. Terry Sawchuk’s No. 1 was next to the JLA rafters (March 6, 1994) and Sid Abel’s No. 12 followed on April 29, 1995.
One by one, Ilitch raised banners for these “Heroes of Hockeytown”. But he forgot to invite the first jersey retirement honoree – Larry Aurie – to any of the parties. He has simply and inexplicably refused to hang Aurie’s retired jersey with the others so honored, although he has not chosen to issue the number to another player.
But Ilitch did not stop the snub there. He has also acted to have his name removed from the records permanently, apparently feeling that he actually has the right to change and shape the history of the franchise.
In 1975, when the Official NHL Guide and Record Book began listing retired numbers, three numbers were listed by Detroit - Aurie’s No. 6, Howe’s 9 and Delvecchio’s 10. For the 2000-01 season, Ilitch authorized the league to remove Aurie’s name from the guide’s list!
Over the years, Aurie family members have expressed anger and frustration by the Ilitch snub and act of “numeric cleansing”. Cummy Burton, Aurie’s cousin and the only player since Aurie to wear No. 6, has become one of the more vocal of the clan.
“At that time (1938), they didn’t raise the sweaters into the rafters,” said Burton in 1997 at age 60, from his home in Sudbury, Ont. “It was retired by Mr. Norris. When Larry died, they brought the jersey on the ice and had a moment of silence.
“Not hanging up Larry’s number would be compared to the Yankees’ not retiring Lou Gehrig’s number,” said Burton, “Just because he was from the 1930’s and now forgotten just because it’s all old stuff now. It’s like saying that war heroes don’t mean anything, just because they’re not around anymore.
“If this guy (Wings owner Ilitch) has got any moxie, he’ll honor the request of his predecessor (Norris). Aurie and players from his time were a beginning of a great franchise history. He should be recognized.”
Burton also recalled that “the best tribute paid to Larry was when someone once asked Jack Adams to compare a young Gordie Howe to Larry.
“When Howe was starting out (in 1946), a newspaper reporter asked Adams, ‘How do you compare Howe to Larry Aurie?’ At that time, they were using Larry Aurie as the talent gauge.”
There were many reasons for James Norris to be enamored with Aurie’s play.
Aurie’s first NHL season - 1927-28 - was the second for the Detroit franchise, then known as the Cougars. New coach and general manager Jack Adams’ first transaction was drafting Aurie out of junior hockey in London, Ont.
Adams scouted Aurie as a fiery competitor who excelled despite a size disadvantage (5-6, 148). Aurie was both a deft scorer and great puck-handler - earning the nickname `The Little Rag Man’ for his crowd-pleasing ability to ‘rag’ the puck while killing penalties. He was highly respected throughout the league.
Adams always included Aurie on his top lines. In 1928, Adams’ top line was Aurie, Carson Cooper and George Hay. In 1929 and ‘30, it was Aurie, Cooper and Herbie Lewis. It was Aurie, Ebbie Goodfellow and Herbie Lewis in ‘31, Aurie, Goodfellow and Hec Kilrea in ’32, Aurie, Lewis and Johnny Sorrell in ’33, Aurie, Lewis and Carl Voss in the ’33 playoffs, and Aurie, Lewis and Cooney Weiland in ’34 and ‘35.
Finally, in 1936, Adams made the right connection in placing center Marty Barry with Aurie and Lewis. As Detroit’s 1930’s “Production Line”, they led the team to its first Stanley Cups ever, in 1936 and ‘37.
Aside from being one of the team’s offensive catalysts, Aurie was also often double-shifted as the team’s best defensive forward. He also had the tiresome duty of defusing their opponents’ top line, killed penalties routinely and was an intimidating physical presence in spite of his size - thus earning his other nickname: “Little Sampson”.
A testament to Aurie’s talent lies in the fact that he and Lewis were selected to play in the first NHL All-Star game in 1934. The game was a benefit for Toronto’s injured player Ace Bailey.
Despite the routine defensive duties, Aurie was still able to score at least 12 goals in nine of 11 full seasons (44-to 48-game seasons). He captained the team in 1932-33 and led the league in playoff scoring in 1934 with 10 points in nine games.
Aurie finished 11th in league scoring in 1934 with 16 goals and 35 points, third in 1935 with 17 goals and 46 points, 12th in 1936 with 16 goals and 34 points, and finished fourth in the league with 23 goals and 43 points in 1937 despite missing the final four games of the season after sustaining a broken ankle. That season, Aurie named first team NHL All-Star at right wing.
According to Charles L. Coleman in his book “The Trail of the Stanley Cup, Volume 2”, the Red Wings’ decline in 1937-38 was largely due to Aurie’s ankle injury. Coleman wrote that “Aurie had not recovered the form he had before breaking his ankle ... Without a healthy Aurie, the team collapsed”.
The hobbled Aurie retired after the 1938 season. And team owner Norris honored his favorite player by retiring Aurie’s uniform number 6. Aurie was then named coach of the AHL’s Pittsburgh Hornets, the Wings’ top farm club, but made one more NHL curtain call with Detroit on Dec. 25, 1938, when the parent team was experiencing a rash of injuries. Aurie responded in “Aurie form” – scoring the winning goal in a 3-1 win over the Montreal Canadiens at Detroit.
Aurie’s teammates have also taken the time to chime in support for their forgotten comrade.
“Larry was a big cog in the wheel of our first championship teams”, said teammate Pete Kelly, reached at his home in Fredericton, New Brunswick in 1997. “He was on our production line’ and was a key to those championships.”
Johnny Mowers, a talented Wings goalie from the early 1940’s, echoed Burton’s sentiments when asked about Aurie in May, 1995. “He was a great favorite of Adams, probably one of the best hockey players in the league at that time. When he quit playing, Adams did retire the number, saying that no one else would wear it. You know in those days, they did not hang up the number into the rafters like they do now.”
“All I knew was that Jack Adams really admired him and didn’t want anyone else to wear the jersey,” said Wings Hall of Fame center Alex Delvecchio in 1997.
“Jack Adams said he was great, and he knew great talent. I agree that Adams had retired it. But my thoughts are that Adams probably was too wrapped up in winning hockey games to hang jerseys from the rafters.”
Aurie, incidentally, was Delvecchio’s coach in junior hockey in Oshawa, Ont. in the late 1940’s. “We all looked up to him in awe. No doubt that he had alot of inspiration in my career.”
Carl Liscombe was another Red Wings star influenced greatly by Aurie. Liscombe played nine seasons with Detroit - his first in 1937-38 on a line with Aurie.
“You know, Larry was the one who got me to come to Detroit from playing junior hockey in Galt, Ont.,” said Liscombe in 1997. “I played with Larry for a year, but the team was breaking up at that point. Their line was getting old, so Adams put me on his line.”
Liscombe also recalled that “It was absolutely definite that Aurie’s number was retired. Norris liked him real well.”
There is much published proof supporting Norris’ acting to retire Aurie’s number. Numerous newspaper clippings documenting the number’s retirement were preserved by Dorothy Sleeth, Aurie’s sister-in-law who resided in Richmond, Ont. until her death in 2001.
One such clipping shows a photo of Delvecchio admiring the jersey, when it began being displayed in its Olympia display in 1962.
Other supportive artifacts include the cover of the New Year’s Eve 1962 Red Wings program whose cover shows Red Wings teammate Val Fonteyne and Marcel Pronovost standing in full uniform in front of the Aurie Olympia display. Fontayne’s number incidentally was No. 19!
In Dec. 1952, an article appeared in the Red Wing Hockey Magazine – the Wings’ game program at the time. The article was written to eulogize both Aurie and Norris, who had also died in Dec. 1952 just prior to Aurie’s death. It read: “It was, perhaps, merciful that Mr. Norris was spared the sudden, shocking, and untimely passing of Larry Aurie.
“Larry was one of Mr. Norris’ favorite players. That was manifested when Aurie’s jersey, bearing number six, was retired from the active numbers when Larry left the Red Wing lineup for the last time.
“Perhaps, much of the admiration which Norris held for Larry lay in Aurie’s type. He was a typical Red Wing. A great two-way hockey player, he continually battled the handicap of size to become the first Detroit forward to ever win All-Star recognition from the league. He was a unanimous choice for the original Detroit Hall of Hockey Fame and the first member of it to die.
“Typical of Aurie was the fact that after he left the Wings to assume a player-coaches’ role at Pittsburgh (AHL), he was called back to Detroit for a one-night performance to help a loss-ridden, injury-riddled team. Larry scored the winning goal.
“Thus, two men from two poles of the hockey world have passed beyond us. In each, we are the losers.”
Armed with my Aurie file of documentation, I met on separate occasions with Marian Ilitch and Denise Ilitch to possibly enlighten them to the omission of Aurie from the JLA rafters. When handed the documentation, both Marian and Denise seemed impressed and each expressed interest in looking into the matter more closely. Each mentioned taking the information back to discuss with other family members. But that’s where things ended with them, as they never took any further action - at least in a positive direction...I’ll get to that later.
I also spoke to Wings senior vice president Jim Devellano in 1997, who said that the team was reluctant to hang the jersey because Aurie was not a member of the Hockey Hall of Fame. I explained to Devellano that many NHL retired numbers are of players not in the Hall of Fame, and the fact remained that Aurie’s number was already retired, and should join the other retired numbers in the JLA rafters, regardless of whether or not he was a Hall of Fame member. Devellano listened intently, but repeated his “company line” and stated that the jersey would only be kept out of circulation, not hung in the rafters.
Devellano’s response did present a challenge to the family, which involved attempting at get Aurie nominated to the Hockey Hall of Fame ballot. In 1997, the Hall inducted only Mario Lemieux upon his retirement after that season. In 1998, however, Aurie was successfully nominated for Hall of Fame consideration, and were confident that the committee would select Aurie. After much debate, Aurie finished a close second to Charlie Conacher in the voting.
The following year, the Hockey Hall of Fame inducted Wayne Gretzky in the same solo fashion as was extended to Lemieux in 1997, and then took an unfortunate step backwards by declaring that no other “old-time” candidates would ever be allowed to be nominated again. Thus, another door was slammed on the Aurie family’s noble efforts.
Troubled by the Ilitch family’s cold response toward the Aurie situation, I and a handful of “Friends of Larry Aurie” - including Aurie’s grand niece and other family members - took to Woodward Avenue in Dec. 1999, busily distributing Aurie literature in the freezing cold in front of the Hockeytown Cafe… on a public sidewalk… with police permission.
Sadly and surprisingly, Ilitch tried to have us arrested, while we were very simply exercising our right to free speech. His security people continuously harassed us, and finally succeeded in convincing the police to ask us to leave.
The police threatened to arrest the grand niece near the Hockeytown Café’s front door, and she left the scene sobbing, visibly shaken with her spirit all but broken by the surprising and disturbing intimidation exhibited by Ilitch that night.
One Olympia Entertainment security person confided to me that Ilitch was indeed trying to have us arrested, saying that he felt we were hurting his business and bothering Hockeytown and Fox Theatre patrons.
That night, Mike Ilitch failed to have us arrested. But the Ilitch family decided to act the following season - in a very unfortunate way.
Before the 2000-01 NHL season, during the launching of the Wings’ “Heroes of Hockeytown” campaign for the team’s 75th anniversary, the Ilitches authorized the removal of Aurie’s No. 6 from the list of Wings’ retired numbers in the 2000-01 NHL Guide. They acted in direct defiance of the wishes of former owner James Norris and, in their minds, un-retired the number! What they accomplished with the desecration of the Aurie name and his proud Detroit hockey legacy.
Aurie is indeed a true “Hero of Hockeytown”, but he is without the medal he is entitled to, since Ilitch refused to honor the actions and wishes of then-owner James Norris in 1938.
Two days after the Yzerman Jersey Night, I spoke by telephone to a couple of Aurie family members who expresses much quiet sorrow while viewing to the Yzerman ceremony on CBC television. An uncle and cousin each spoke in somber tones regarding the continued Aurie snub by the Ilitches. Each still holds onto the hope that a day will come when Aurie’s jersey will take its rightful place in the JLA rafters.
The obvious action for the Ilitches would be to give Aurie his due by hanging No. 6 at Joe Louis Arena. Anything less, like their present attitude toward the subject, is totally disrespectful and unacceptable.
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Guest Sumbission by Bernie Czarniecki
Correction: the names “Wayne Gretzky” and “Mario Lemieux” were accidentally transposed at the time of original publication. That error has been fixed.
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If Illitch knew he had a true GOOD reason for not hanging his number, he wouldn’t refuse to discuss it. That’s the only indictment I need.
Posted by Nathan on 01/09/07 at 04:32 PM ET
it is really silly—why not honor the great tradition of the team - history did not start with Gordie --we may never have seen the greats of the early days of the NHL play a game, but that doesnt stop the other original six teams from honoring their former stars --- come on Illitch, swallow your pride & recognize an Original Wing #6
Posted by howie young from up north on 01/09/07 at 04:54 PM ET
It’s an amazing story, Bernie. I really enjoyed it. Also, for everyone’s reference, The Chief Canuck was good enough to drop this link off with me, pointing out the Wings official page about Aurie, where they make this statement:
As a tribute to Aurie’s worth, manager Jack Adams deemed that no other player would don Aurie’s No. 6 jersey. “It wouldn’t seem right for anyone else to wear it,” Adams said.
Though the number was never officially retired, Cummy Burton, Aurie’s nephew, is the only Detroit player to since wear No. 6.
Posted by Alanah McGinley from British Columbia on 01/09/07 at 05:09 PM ET
You buy the team (you buy the history) quit being a putz Ilitch.
Posted by cupster33 on 01/09/07 at 05:57 PM ET
Though the number was never officially retired, Cummy Burton, Aurie’s nephew, is the only Detroit player to since wear No. 6.
I’d say that there’s plenty of proof that the jersey is indeed retired, eh? And for the Wings’ information, Burton is Aurie’s cousin - not nephew.
Bernie
Posted by djberndog from Dearborn, Michigan on 01/09/07 at 06:54 PM ET
“And for the Wings’ information, Burton is Aurie’s cousin - not nephew.”
Wow. The mind boggles… this whole thing would almost be comical if it wasn’t so devastating for his family, and for Aurie’s legacy itself.
Posted by Alanah McGinley from British Columbia on 01/10/07 at 12:20 AM ET
“ In 1997, the Hall inducted only Wayne Gretzky upon his retirement after that season. In 1998, however, Aurie was successfully nominated for Hall of Fame consideration, and were confident that the committee would select Aurie. After much debate, Aurie finished a close second to Charlie Conacher in the voting.
The following year, the Hockey Hall of Fame inducted Mario Lemieux in the same solo fashion as was extended to Gretzky in 1997, and then took an unfortunate step backwards by declaring that no other “old-time” candidates would ever be allowed “
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Gretzky retired in 1999, NOT 97...HUGE error to say 97. That error really made me question the rest of the article. First rule of journalism, check your facts. You lost all credibility with that error.
Posted by cane on 01/10/07 at 01:00 AM ET
Yeah, he sure was a great player. But come on, we’ve had a lot of great players with his credentials. Do we retire their numbers too? We’d have to go into triple digits. The harsh truth is, he didn’t have as much of an impact on the sport overall as the others did. Plain and simple.
Posted by brandon from macomb on 01/10/07 at 02:55 AM ET
“In 1997, the Hall inducted only Wayne Gretzky upon his retirement after that season. In 1998, however, Aurie was successfully nominated for Hall of Fame consideration, and were confident that the committee would select Aurie. After much debate, Aurie finished a close second to Charlie Conacher in the voting.
The following year, the Hockey Hall of Fame inducted Mario Lemieux in the same solo fashion as was extended to Gretzky in 1997, and then took an unfortunate step backwards by declaring that no other “old-time” candidates would ever be allowed “
Gretzky retired in 1999, NOT 97...HUGE error to say 97.”
That is a mistake on my part, I transposed the names. Gretzky was inducted 1999 and Lemieux in 1997. I will make the change. Thanks for noticing and for reading.
Posted by djberndog from Dearborn, Michigan on 01/10/07 at 08:41 AM ET
Great Article Bernie! More power to you! We should not allow one man in power the right to rewrite history. What next? In 20 years when there is a new owner will he want to take Gordie Howe’s number down?!?! In 50 years will they take down #19??? RIDICULOUS!
Posted by Tim Zelmanski from Royal Oak, MI on 01/11/07 at 10:24 AM ET
Thanks, Tim!
Here’s another example of Mike Ilitch’s convoluted logic regarding the Wings’ “reluctance to hang Aurie’s number because he is not in the Hockey Hall of Fame” is the fact that Ilitch retired Willie Horton’s Detroit Tigers No. 23 in July 2000, and Horton is NOT a member of the Baseball Hall of Fame. Ilitch simply wanted to honor Horton - a Detroit native and 1968 World Series hero, the same exact action taken by James Norris in 1938 when, as Red Wings owner, he retired Aurie’s No. 6. So why won’t Ilitch honor Norris’ action?? No one knows, and he’s not talking. ARGH-GH-GH!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by djberndog from Dearborn, Michigan on 01/14/07 at 08:13 PM ET
Could it be because he was a Detroit Couger, and not a Detroit Red Wing, and being money hungry as Ilitch is, he doesn’t see promoting a Couger as a financial benefit? Maybe he thinks #6 is Satanical and witht he red it will look devilish? Pizza Pizza! little Sleazers.
Posted by Ylder Riza from New York on 06/01/08 at 11:56 PM ET
Write to ESPN’s sportscenter requesting a story on Larry Aurie and the NHL’s policy of not admitting old-timers to the hall of fame! Go tot he link below.
Posted by John S. on 06/05/08 at 02:47 PM ET
Wow, that is a tragedy. If they aren’t going to retire the number then they should at least put it in circulation. Same with Vladdie’s number.
Posted by Ken from Ypsilanti, MI on 06/11/08 at 11:38 PM ET
brandon from macomb: Your question, do we retire everyone’s numbers who are equally as good players, doesn’t fit the circumstance.
The number was ALREADY retired by the team owner, who obviously believed Aurie’s work merited such.
That doesn’t translate into randomly retiring numbers.
I think this situation is beyond disgraceful. Ilitch is successful, but he’s also flaky (listen to him speak, sometime). Perhaps he’s being stubborn for the sake of such, but this “Cone of Silence” thing is simply asinine.
I have written to TWENTY-TWO hockey sources (I used to work at JLA, so there were a few on the list who were offf the beaten path): it’s as though there is some kind of bizarre conspiracy.
If it were “nothing,” then why the clam-up? Not saying anything tends to lead people to speculate that the man was some sinister person who might have committed some atrocity. This is patently awful to do to someone who was a loyal player and is now deceased and can’t defend himself.
Posted by Debra Wells from Windsor on 06/13/08 at 07:23 AM ET
Deborah,
Thanks so much for your passionate writing action on behalf of Aurie’s family and their cause! Yes, the situation is beyond disgraceful - that’s an excellent way of decribing it. And I agree about the bizarre conspiracy theory - I too contacted a high-ranking employee of Ilitch Holdings two years ago, a deputy of sorts (a high-profile co-worker gave me his name and phone number). Though he initially joked that he was not a “miracle worker”, he seemed genuinely interested in learning about Aurie’s plight and discussing it with Mr. Ilitch. I sent his all of my info via fax and email, he confirmed receiving it all and said that he would get back to me after discussing it with Mr. Ilitch. Well, he never called me back or answered any of my emails. I don’t know if he was told to “clam up”, as you say, or whether he was placed in “Ilitch Holdings solitary confinement” for an indefinite period. In any event, he seemed to be a promising lead, then turned into a mysterous dead end. Every attempt I have made has turned into a mysterious dead end…
Someone of local prominence once told me that Ilitch does A): does not like to be told what to do and B:) does not have much regard for this kind of stuff because it does not earn him any money - he’s a business man first and foremost. I told him that I would personally pay for the banner and personally deliver it to JLA, and ask that it be hoisted during the off-season as to not draw any more attention to the obvious and purposeful case of oversight on Ilitch’s behalf.
I thank everyone who continues to have an interest in this truly noble and totally disturbing situation regarding one of Detroit hockey’s first true superstars - regarding Larry Aurie’s proud, highly successful and inspiring career back then and the total desecration of his memory and legacy by current Red Wings ownership presently.
Posted by djberndog from Dearborn, Michigan on 06/13/08 at 02:57 PM ET
Debra,
P.S. Sorry for misspelling you name!! SORRY!!!
Bernie
Posted by djberndog from Dearborn, Michigan on 06/13/08 at 02:58 PM ET
Think nothing of it, Bernie: originally, it was spelled that way!
As mentioned, this is the most glaring--and absurd--example of omerta since The Godfather.
Influence and power, owner or not, does not entitle someone to change history on a whim. Your source who indicated he doesn’t like to be told what to do simply verifies my feeling that he has adopted this “Nyah, nyah: I don’t HAVE to! So there!” attitude for no other reason than because he can. The man is, what? 76? Time to grow up and do the right, the fair, the mature thing.
Sports is a business, yes: but it is a business based on a heart-and-soul group of people who deserve to have the complete Wings story and whose collective intelligence is being insulted for nothing. And Mr. Aurie deserves what he honestly earned.
Insofar as Mr. Ilitch not wanting to do something that won’t make money for him, that doesn’t hold water. How much money did Sid Abel make for him? Ted Lindsey? The list goes on. It’s a dodge, an excuse for acting like a kid with all the marbles who screams “Mine!” and refuses to share.
Idiocy.
Posted by Debra Wells from Windsor on 06/15/08 at 12:26 PM ET
Roy Conacher (not Charlie) was inducted in 1998 in the Veteran Player category. There is no longer any such category, however it is my understanding that the Player category encompasses all former players.
Anyone can submit a recommendation for nomination to the selection committee.
Posted by monkey from The AQ on 06/18/08 at 06:39 PM ET
Sorry for what will basically be a double post but I wanted to expand on my last one.
I believe the article is in error when it states
Aurie finished a close second to Charlie Conacher in the voting
Charlie Conacher was inducted in 1961. It was his brother Roy (as a Veteran Player) who was selected in 1998. Also, how do you know Aurie came in second? The Hall of Fame doesn’t publicize the names of nominees, only “Honoured Members”. Maybe they used to publicize the names of those nominated?
After reading through HHOF By-Law 19 I couldn’t find any rule preventing Aurie from being selected into the hall. The article states that
the Hockey Hall of Fame ... took an unfortunate step backwards by declaring that no other “old-time” candidates would ever be allowed to be nominated again. Thus, another door was slammed on the Aurie family’s noble efforts.
From what I’ve found, the criteria for Hall selection are pretty thin:
Candidates for election as Honoured Members in the player category shall be chosen on the basis of their playing ability, sportsmanship, character and their contribution to their team or teams and to the game of hockey in general.
and
Except as provided in paragraph 19, a candidate for election in the player category must have concluded his career as an active player for a minimum of three playing seasons before his election.
Paragraph 19 outlines a procedure for over-riding the three year rule, as was done for Mario Lemieux in 1997.
Perhaps I’m missing something, but I can’t find anything that distinguishes “old-time” players from any other players or restricts in any way who can be selected, other than that they must be retired for at least three years.
Also, as I noted before, anyone can submit a recommendation for nomination to the selection committee.
Posted by monkey from The AQ on 06/20/08 at 07:23 AM ET
Thanks, Monkey…
Prior to 1999, the Hall of Fame committee’s voting results were not secretive (a then-committee member discussed the 1998 meeting with me back then). After 1999, when the Hall determined that they would no longer consider players in an “old-timers” category (Veteran’s Committee), they also created a secretive policy where they are not supposed to reveal or discuss voting results or anything partaining to the selection procedure.
Recently, I learned that old-time goalie Lorne Chabot had been nominated for the HHOF in the regular overall category a couple of years ago, meaning the Aurie still could be nominated and elected. Chabot had been third in the voting behind Roy Conacher and Aurie in 1998. Someone needs to again nominate Aurie. Anyone interested??? If so, please contact the HHOF with a formal request letter (his information is still on file there, I’m sure).
Posted by djberndog from Dearborn, Michigan on 06/23/08 at 12:49 PM ET
Mike Ilitch should be ashamed of himself! Trying to get people arrested? What a egomaniac. Apparently he’s got to prove he’s the man and he has the right to revise history. Aurie earned his place in Wings lore and should be so honored. Sounds like Mike Ilitch is a petulant kid with the class of Mark Cuban. What’s next Mike? Al Kaline being un-retired from the Tigers! Ridiculous.
Posted by Dutch from California on 07/12/08 at 12:08 PM ET
Ok if HHOF voters over the past 65 years havnt voted him into the hall he wont get in, obviously he is not considered worthy enough for a reason. He played only 12 seasons for the wings with one as captain, so just because a coach or owner liked him dosnt merit anyone for a banner raising. If you want to talk about statistics thats fine too, then obviously you must all agree that (based on statistics) osgood should be in the hall of fame as well, despite playing infront of amazing detroit teams. His acomplishments are not that impressive anyways in an era of 6 teams...Led NHL in goals in 1936–37;
Named to NHL First All-Star Team, 1936–37;Played in NHL All-Star Game, 1933–34;Led Detroit in scoring, 1933–34;Served as team captain, 1932-33.
Posted by Chris from Detroit on 07/12/08 at 09:26 PM ET
I was glad to find this beautifully written article. My username speaks for itself…
Sadly, I think Illitch is a stubborn man and, without a major campaign by someone at the News or Free Press (highly unlikely as they won’t want to antagonize the Wings organization), it will never happen so long as he owns the team. Maybe his son will feel differently when he inherits it.
Posted by Larry Aurie #6 from New York, NY on 07/13/08 at 11:41 AM ET
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Excellent article about a tragic situation. Does Ilitch simply refuse to comment on it? It’d be great to see the fans in Detroit rise up for #6!
Posted by kirk ahlberg from st. paul, mn on 01/09/07 at 02:52 PM ET