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If You Went To Bed Before The Habs/Ducks Game Was Over Like I Did…
by Paul on 03/08/10 at 07:52 AM ET
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from Robyn Norwood of the LA Times,
The final indignity came in the shootout, when goaltender Jonas Hiller appeared to have made the game-winning save against Brian Gionta only to lift his left leg and allow the puck to trickle into the net.
One shooter later, Tomas Plekanec made good on Montreal’s second chance by scoring the shootout winner to hand the Ducks their third loss since the Olympic break.
Here is the Gionta shootout goal…
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Do the refs blow the whistle or something to let the goalie know the play is officially dead? If not, they need to start and the goalies need to stay still until that point. Play looked dead, but they ruled it good.
NHL should at least clarify it’s stance on it.
Posted by psycaz on 03/08/10 at 09:21 AM ET
I don’t think it looked dead, as Hiller never stopped moving and anyone could tell he had no idea where the puck was.
Posted by mrfluffy from Long Beach on 03/08/10 at 09:24 AM ET
There was apparently no intent to blow. But there probably should have been.
Posted by Nate A from Detroit-ish on 03/08/10 at 10:14 AM ET
I don’t think it looked dead, as Hiller never stopped moving and anyone could tell he had no idea where the puck was.
There was apparently no intent to blow. But there probably should have been.
It’s quite possible that the ref could see the puck from his angle and new that it wasn’t covered. Add that to the fact that Hiller, as mrfluffy said, Hiller was still moving and clearly didn’t know where the puck was.
I don’t see the “controversy”.
Posted by Garth on 03/08/10 at 10:44 AM ET
I don’t see the “controversy”.
I agree, there would have been a lot more controversy had they called it a no goal. I think the refs got this one right.
Posted by Kstewy16 on 03/08/10 at 11:06 AM ET
One of the first things young goalies learn is to hold absolutely still if you’re unsure where the puck is until the official signals a dead puck. Hiller didn’t stop moving. He made the stop and scored the goal.
Posted by redxblack from Akron Ohio on 03/08/10 at 11:22 AM ET
The “controversy” is the fact that Carlyle kept Saku on the bench in the shootout. Shame on him….
Posted by Laydownthelaw on 03/08/10 at 11:32 AM ET
I don’t see the “controversy”.
I agree, there would have been a lot more controversy had they called it a no goal. I think the refs got this one right.
Posted by Kstewy16 on 03/08/10 at 11:06 AM ET
I also agree. The ref on Hiller’s left appeared to be watching the puck and seemed ready to wave it off if Hiller gained control. He not only didn’t gain control, but slid back into the net and dropped the puck. Good goal.
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 03/08/10 at 11:42 AM ET
No controversy. Stop moving and the play is over. No need for intent to blow whistle on shootout because i can see it causing all kinds of problems
Posted by ME on 03/08/10 at 12:08 PM ET
That’s a good goal, Hiller didn’t know where the puck and never stopped moving. Refs got it right.
Posted by Performance Parts on 03/08/10 at 12:47 PM ET
No controversy. Stop moving and the play is over. No need for intent to blow whistle on shootout because i can see it causing all kinds of problems
How do you know the play is over unless there is some kind of sign to tell the goalie it is?
You can see Hiller looking over at the ref to his left trying to figure out if the play was done or not. He didn’t know what the call was. It wouldn’t be that bad to put a decisive act in place if there isn’t one already. Blow the whistle, wave arms. Something to tell the goalie to not move before that act has been done.
Posted by psycaz on 03/08/10 at 02:17 PM ET
Blow the whistle, wave arms.
The ref DOES wave his arms in a “no goal” signal when there’s no goal.
The play wasn’t dead and the play WON’T be called dead until the the puck is clearly covered, misses the net or goes in.
Posted by Garth on 03/08/10 at 02:29 PM ET
My favorite part was the Ducks Douchebag Hayward saying the goal was “controversial” because the shooter may have made contact with the goaltender with his stick and therefore somehow touched the puck a second time. How does this guy have a job?
That and Hayward always telling us what the goalie was thinking during the shootout. Brian, just because you shat your goalie pads everytime you played doesn’t mean all goalies are like that.
Posted by calquake on 03/08/10 at 03:15 PM ET
That and Hayward always telling us what the goalie was thinking during the shootout.
Well, he’s got so much shootout experience himself…
Posted by Garth on 03/08/10 at 03:30 PM ET
How do you know the play is over unless there is some kind of sign to tell the goalie it is?
Uhhh…stop me if I’m going too fast, but if blow whistle + wave arms = play over, then no whistle + no wave arms = play not over.
Posted by YzermanZetterberg on 03/08/10 at 03:38 PM ET
Uhhh…stop me if I’m going too fast, but if blow whistle + wave arms = play over, then no whistle + no wave arms = play not over.
And what part of my prior post where I ASKED if there was a sign to tell the goalie that the play was dead did you not understand or did I type too fast.
It was a honest freakin question to start. My response was to the whole idea you create more issues if you use the whistle to signal stoppage with the “intent” to blow.
Posted by psycaz on 03/09/10 at 07:25 AM ET
Looked like the puck was on top of Hillar’s thighrise at the top of the pad and when he rotated his leg to see if the puck was under him (probably to make sure that he could get a glove/stick on ithe puck as his momentum was carrying him into the net), and flipped it into the net. Blame that one on the black pants and pad interior. Never would have happened if they were still the Mighty Ducks…
Posted by Mike @ MHH on 03/09/10 at 10:24 AM ET
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