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Defending the Crease
by Forechecker on 11/04/08 at 04:08 PM ET
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Earlier today I looked at the offensive rebounding question, and now it’s time to see which NHL defenses are giving up the most (and fewest) 2nd chances to opposing forwards. How many times do you hear someone say about their favorite team, that all they need is some more muscle on the blueline to help keep the pressure off their goaltender? Well let’s see who actually needs that kind of help.
May I have the envelope please…
| Defensive Rebounding Per Team | ||||
| Team | Shots Saved | Rebound Shots Allowed | Def Reb % | Goals |
| Minnesota Wild | 266 | 14 | 5.3% | 0 |
| Tampa Bay Lightning | 339 | 23 | 6.8% | 6 |
| Atlanta Thrashers | 361 | 26 | 7.2% | 5 |
| New Jersey Devils | 271 | 21 | 7.7% | 3 |
| Chicago Blackhawks | 328 | 27 | 8.2% | 5 |
| New York Islanders | 312 | 27 | 8.7% | 9 |
| Florida Panthers | 339 | 30 | 8.8% | 7 |
| Phoenix Coyotes | 256 | 23 | 9.0% | 6 |
| Columbus Blue Jackets | 295 | 27 | 9.2% | 8 |
| Ottawa Senators | 314 | 29 | 9.2% | 3 |
| Vancouver Canucks | 322 | 31 | 9.6% | 11 |
| Montreal Canadiens | 287 | 28 | 9.8% | 5 |
| Buffalo Sabres | 326 | 32 | 9.8% | 2 |
| Edmonton Oilers | 305 | 30 | 9.8% | 4 |
| Calgary Flames | 333 | 33 | 9.9% | 7 |
| Pittsburgh Penguins | 361 | 36 | 10.0% | 4 |
| Nashville Predators | 255 | 26 | 10.2% | 9 |
| Detroit Red Wings | 312 | 32 | 10.3% | 11 |
| Anaheim Ducks | 389 | 40 | 10.3% | 8 |
| Philadelphia Flyers | 301 | 31 | 10.3% | 9 |
| St. Louis Blues | 258 | 27 | 10.5% | 6 |
| Toronto Maple Leafs | 295 | 31 | 10.5% | 6 |
| Boston Bruins | 351 | 37 | 10.5% | 6 |
| Washington Capitals | 240 | 26 | 10.8% | 6 |
| New York Rangers | 358 | 39 | 10.9% | 10 |
| San Jose Sharks | 265 | 29 | 10.9% | 4 |
| Colorado Avalanche | 278 | 31 | 11.2% | 5 |
| Dallas Stars | 266 | 32 | 12.0% | 5 |
| Los Angeles Kings | 217 | 29 | 13.4% | 2 |
| Carolina Hurricanes | 328 | 50 | 15.2% | 5 |
| Grand Total | 9128 | 897 | 9.8% | 177 |
| Data from games through November 3, 2008 | ||||
The percentages here indicate the portion of saves that result in an opponent firing a rebound shot, so low numbers are desireable. And, as with the earlier post, a Rebound Shot is defined as any attempted shot (Shot on Goal, Goal, Missed or Blocked Shot) attempted within 3 seconds of a shot by the same team that was saved by the goaltender, without any other intervening events (like a faceoff or turnover).
It’s no surprise to see Jacques Lemaire’s Minnesota Wild atop the table here, nor the New Jersey Devils (fear not, Puck Daddy, Kevin Weekes should have plenty of help). What is notable, however, is the appearance of typically lousy defensive squads like Tampa Bay, Atlanta, and Florida ranked so highly. Whether this is due to coaches packing players down low out of desperation, or underrated performances by their defensemen, I’ll leave that as an exercise for the reader.
Down at the bottom we see some groups that are pretty well known as doughy-soft around the front of their own net, like Carolina, and Los Angeles, which are basically providing red-carpet treatment to opposing forwards. Colorado might be a bit of a surprise, but they’ve looked awful lately. Chicago smoked them last night, and Adam Foote looks a shadow of his former self. And there are those awful Dallas Stars again… they’re just not having a good time, are they?
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Those are in the works, Ryan; you’re right, when it comes to individual skaters, I’ll wait until deeper in the season for that. I may look at goalies in terms of how often they get a stoppage in play off of a save, just for giggles. There are some goalies that prefer to keep play moving, while others like to freeze it.
Posted by Forechecker from Nolensville, TN on 11/04/08 at 06:23 PM ET
I think you have over emphasized the defences role allowing rebound shots in your write-up. The goalie being able to “swallow” the puck or direct it into the corner may have a greater role than what the D does. It also is interesting that alot of teams that allow alot of rebounds have pretty good “rebound save %”. I think that might be indicative of goalie style. Check out the ‘nucks (Loungo). The rebound save % is 63%. If you manage to get the puck to bounce of him and get a shot away you’ve got a good chance. The trouble of course is getting the rebound to come off Loungo.
And you know I’d like to see the data broken into PK and EV.
Posted by mogen_david from Great Basin on 11/04/08 at 06:42 PM ET
You’re right, particularly on the defensive side this is an indicator of combined performance between a goalie and his defensemen. I’ll see if I can put the defensive breakdown of EV and PK numbers in that same Google doc later on this evening…
Posted by Forechecker from Nolensville, TN on 11/04/08 at 06:45 PM ET
Sorry for the delay, but I’ve added the defensive breakdown between EV and SH duty on the same Google Spreadsheet as the offensive data.
Posted by Forechecker from Nolensville, TN on 11/06/08 at 03:07 PM ET
Thanks, I’ll take a look. It was sort of interesting to which teams did crashed the net EV vs PP and which did about the same. It’ll be fun to see how they do on the PK.
Posted by mogen_david from Great Basin on 11/10/08 at 12:03 PM ET
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What would be interesting to see is how a team’s numbers change depending on which goalie they have in net. Or you could take it further and break it down by which skaters are on the ice, but there’s not nearly enough data yet for that to be meaningful.
Posted by Ryan from Toronto on 11/04/08 at 05:44 PM ET